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[轉錄]Re: [新聞] 馬總統不支持 國光石化開發긠…
[ Policy ]70 留言, 推噓總分: +6
作者: oodh - 發表於 2011/04/22 17:47(13年前)
1Fmidas82539:意外....意外的轉彎呀(揉眼)04/22 21:29
6Fmidas82539:人皆有立場,立場則形塑了框架。這不能怪他04/23 00:27
33Fmidas82539:承認立場很難嗎?通篇論"政府不得不低頭"影射政府原本04/23 02:39
34Fmidas82539:對,但遭遇群眾反對而被迫妥協順應錯的民意達政治正確04/23 02:40
35Fmidas82539:如果你承認你站在政府立場認為環團作為有問題那就算了04/23 02:41
36Fmidas82539:但你這樣拿個對錯論來凹...那只要拿5475這篇的推文反笑04/23 02:43
37Fmidas82539:你自打嘴巴就好啦,就你論當地多數選民和代議士形塑04/23 02:44
38Fmidas82539:而法定活動(公聽、辨論),總統視察都受到民眾反面陳情04/23 02:46
39Fmidas82539:那何來政府需受地方愚民"低頭"之論?照你論是順應民意04/23 02:47
40Fmidas82539:嘛怎麼你在5475的意見還可以在這篇背道而馳了?(笑)04/23 02:47
41Fmidas82539:那你還是落入「中央官員和學者們遠比鄉民想的多」的04/23 02:49
43Fmidas82539:愚民框架,及「自己在小群裡聽到的共識就等於全部民意04/23 02:50
45Fmidas82539:」的非主流小眾要糖吃框架?04/23 02:50
48Fmidas82539:笑話,semicoma上三句你可以再回顧一下...04/23 02:52
49Fmidas82539:還有dezuphia質疑後下面的推論,說人中文認知有問題04/23 02:53
50Fmidas82539:能夠硬轉你原先立論的矛盾嗎?04/23 02:53
51Fmidas82539:偽善04/23 02:56
53Fmidas82539:就是"但政府原意不蓋最後仍被正義方鬧到低頭"的論調04/23 03:05
54Fmidas82539:A.既然不蓋,順應民情又何來低頭之有?04/23 03:07
55Fmidas82539:B.若政府認為仍被正義方鬧到低頭,那何論政府不蓋為真?04/23 03:07
56Fmidas82539:C.就上兩個矛盾存在的局面,你又何能抗辯S大的質疑呢?04/23 03:08
57Fmidas82539:而就你於5475對我最後回覆,又和上述推文相左不一致04/23 03:12
58Fmidas82539:那不啻代表其言不一致的原因,仍脫不了上述2框架的論斷04/23 03:13
59Fmidas82539:但又想擺脫其質疑,才將命題模糊化預其遁辭之效?04/23 03:14
60Fmidas82539:那到底誰的中文認知有問題,誰又在玩文字遊戲....04/23 03:15
61Fmidas82539:我想閱聽人都自知明顯,到底誰在吹皺一江臭水(笑)04/23 03:16
[新聞] 蔡英文:18歲就該有投票權
[ Policy ]67 留言, 推噓總分: +5
作者: yayaya0805 - 發表於 2011/04/19 20:23(13年前)
35Fmidas82539:假議題.....哼..現行就算是成人,也僅剩投票的自由罷了04/20 01:26
36Fmidas82539:捫心自問自己能有多少途徑藉由遊說團體,政黨,陳情方式04/20 01:27
37Fmidas82539:達到政治參與、意見凝聚和推行訴求呢?04/20 01:28
38Fmidas82539:當政治的分配,決策和社會需求脫節,公民反難參與/投資04/20 01:32
39Fmidas82539:公共政策的制定與實施過程,就算推到12歲政治參與也難04/20 01:33
40Fmidas82539:生殖人心,因為人們知道他們意見難以上達和改變04/20 01:34
41Fmidas82539:深(錯字) 而這種失落和不滿感才是政局不穩定的民粹溫床04/20 01:35
48Fmidas82539:用一無知的框架,框住一群生活在地方的民眾,據以駁斥04/20 02:11
49Fmidas82539:其深切關心的地方建設與變遷,反以外部的他者主導觀光04/20 02:13
50Fmidas82539:發展、農村再建,住商開發案,再反說真正生活於該地人04/20 02:17
51Fmidas82539:"不懂" "不是選民" 甚至"我想的才比你們多" 之論調04/20 02:17
52Fmidas82539:也難怪諸多公/私開發案在地方難求支持,又營運空洞了04/20 02:19
Re: [新聞] 碩博士失業知多少?
[ Policy ]12 留言, 推噓總分: +5
作者: wuluke - 發表於 2011/04/15 14:00(13年前)
5Fmidas82539:這麼說來加拿大也太慘了....抱歉和加拿大業界不熟XD04/15 19:03
Re: [轉錄][轉錄][論卦]日本福島核電廠事故說明與딠…
[ Policy ]91 留言, 推噓總分: +11
作者: aloba - 發表於 2011/03/26 17:36(13年前)
15Fmidas82539:oodh的文基本上可以無視,看他之前論健保藥價被批03/26 22:09
16Fmidas82539:到最後就龜了完全不回,也不用說都計板開了篇"政治考量03/26 22:10
17Fmidas82539:下的都市更新",笑人數數和邏輯跳躍,還不是被魔人批到03/26 22:11
18Fmidas82539:龜起來無視──阿~~好像是自從那場敗仗後就沒發文了齁03/26 22:12
19Fmidas82539:有空的話可去Urban_Plan板上看oodh的"戰績"呀,很有趣03/26 22:13
20Fmidas82539:只是無責任吐槽吐後不理的態度還是沒啥變嘛...(笑)03/26 22:14
Re: [轉錄][轉錄][論卦]日本福島核電廠事故說明與딠…
[ Policy ]5 留言, 推噓總分: +1
作者: aloba - 發表於 2011/03/26 02:40(13年前)
5Fmidas82539:精確的說是隨時代發生的災難而遞增的數字...03/26 17:20
Re: [分享] 台電節能減碳的窮途末路
[ Policy ]28 留言, 推噓總分: +8
作者: Pygmalion - 發表於 2011/03/15 22:55(13年前)
11Fmidas82539:太陽能在南部有一些透天厝有用,不過適用在台北....03/16 01:17
12Fmidas82539:那些頂樓違建主會第一個把社區案駁回,因為會認為佔位ww03/16 01:18
13Fmidas82539:此外就是避難空間耗損問題...雖然實務上頂樓也僅為虛設03/16 01:19
Re: [分享] 台電節能減碳的窮途末路
[ Policy ]24 留言, 推噓總分: +3
作者: IBIZA - 發表於 2011/03/15 10:29(13年前)
11Fmidas82539:oodh你不就在自打嘴巴嗎?03/15 13:51
12Fmidas82539:文中笑人不願意站到條件相當的位置討論,但面對支持意見03/15 13:52
13Fmidas82539:有計算盲區又說有參考價值,不就是"怎算都可行"的繆論?03/15 13:53
14Fmidas82539:雖說政策討論皆有立場定見,難以避免,但一個定見者反笑03/15 13:55
15Fmidas82539:質疑者"嚴格檢視批判對方,自己支持的卻怎算都可行"03/15 13:55
16Fmidas82539:也不過是自曝歧見又惹人訕笑的自婊呀,呵呵..唉XDDD03/15 13:56
Re: [建議] 政府應儘快應對全球糧荒危機
[ Policy ]80 留言, 推噓總分: +18
作者: dorise0509 - 發表於 2011/02/13 17:40(13年前)
67Fmidas82539:政府再造不可避免要碰觸各部門權力分割和重整02/17 02:16
68Fmidas82539:這是需要妥協和利益分配的藝術的,其實難度很高02/17 02:16
69Fmidas82539:做不好通常會落得全盤否決或新整合機構沒錢,沒權的下場02/17 02:17
Re: [新聞] 關中砍自家人 試院公務員2人考績丙
[ Policy ]4 留言, 推噓總分: +4
作者: ChallengerII - 發表於 2011/01/29 21:15(13年前)
1Fmidas82539:嘛...從通論自認推出妙計,但不顧田野現實是學生通病01/29 22:40
Re: [新聞] 關中砍自家人 試院公務員2人考績丙
[ Policy ]119 留言, 推噓總分: +12
作者: ChallengerII - 發表於 2011/01/25 21:39(13年前)
56Fmidas82539:樓上繞那麼大圈你還是沒回答問題嘛,用推文洗回應?(笑)01/27 18:36
57Fmidas82539:講實在話堆砌文字又沒回應原作者提問真不知道是誰喔~01/27 18:38
70Fmidas82539:那是課本上寫的通則,你認為給消防局看這"妙計"會開心?01/27 20:03
71Fmidas82539:接下來他就會嗆你所謂的績效就是坐等災害發生後解決之01/27 20:06
72Fmidas82539:效率囉,那不是而要預防的話,那和各縣市消防人員專業01/27 20:07
73Fmidas82539:獎懲標準表的重視檢察、宣導、備料保養有何不同?何需改01/27 20:08
74Fmidas82539:但這又會回到原補充文的問題,即災害頻率與績效評範圍01/27 20:10