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11F→: 就回歸到原創與實質近似的重製判定,看法官01/10 03:26
14F→: 此外就比例原則吧,比如說你如果真的有原創而雷同01/10 03:28
15F→: 那正常你只是偶爾有幾個雷同作品而已01/10 03:28
16F→: 但你實際手法就是電子人二的話,那被告也是遲早問題01/10 03:29
17F→: 如果認真講的話,他服裝再改例如變泳裝啦,髮型再改01/10 03:35
18F→: 馬尾啦,只要要素越來越不像,別人要舉證抄也很牽強時01/10 03:35
19F→: 那你要說討論空間OK,不過我個人看就覺得很像01/10 03:36
20F→: 你要看的人說這不是重製仿作而是原創著作,有難度吧01/10 03:37
21F→: 不過他是餵圖的方式先生成再改基本上沒辦法做到01/10 03:37
4F→: 我只能說你還是先去看著作權法會比較好01/10 01:13
5F→: 首先我們要定義著作權的一個前提是具原創性之創作01/10 01:14
7F→: 但如果你取樣就是接觸他人的圖,也就是餵別人著作圖01/10 01:14
10F→: 我個人認為他其實滿LOW的,直接餵圖抄別人風格你的01/10 00:49
15F→: 關鍵字修改就比較簡單,運氣好連試錯都不用01/10 00:50
18F→: 但講白一點你要他自己弄個原創圖他可能都不敢01/10 00:50
20F→: 那他永遠都只能當個抄襲仔而已,這輩子就撿角了吧01/10 00:51
25F→: 實際上你就是甲方阿,只是畫的人變AI而已01/10 00:52
26F→: 阿你還跟畫師講請你抄某某的圖最好像一點喔01/10 00:52
30F→: 這種咖小也能叫藝術家或繪師喔,笑死人了01/10 00:52
37F→: 首先你給程式畫實際上就是一種隨機取樣的去雜訊過程01/10 00:56
38F→: 你本來就沒辦法完全控制出你要的特徵而已01/10 00:56
39F→: 諷刺的是這方面最快的反而就是叫程式去抄圖01/10 00:56
40F→: 結果就變成現在這亂象吧01/10 00:57
46F→: 阿這種捷徑問題就是當你想繼續往原創圖發展01/10 00:58
48F→: 你就會發現你會面臨完全不同的問題,你等於要重練AI01/10 00:58
55F→: 就說過了,程式自動產出的東西目前法律不具版權01/10 00:59
59F→: 阿你還用抄的還宣稱自己畫的,就各種蠢上身而已01/10 01:00
70F→: 不是阿,你是沒看他的影片有講到不能違反著作權法30-401/10 01:03
75F→: 的授權同意前提,你才可以餵圖。而這就跟你手繪二創圖01/10 01:04
76F→: 一樣,好你自己畫米老鼠,你有這幅畫的著作權01/10 01:04
78F→: 但你在版權上只要沒有授權同意,那你二創不會有版權01/10 01:05
84F→: ....你是不是不知道著作權跟版權是不同的法益概念01/10 01:06
89F→: 你不能把版權跟著作權混為一談,因為保護法益不同01/10 01:08
90F→: 不能說你有創作的著作權就可以創作人家有版權的東西01/10 01:09
91F→: 所以還是會回歸到30-4的獲取材料時的授權問題01/10 01:09
109F→: 我只能說你還是先去看著作權法會比較好01/10 01:13
110F→: 首先我們要定義著作權的一個前提是具原創性之創作01/10 01:14
112F→: 但如果你取樣就是接觸他人的圖,也就是餵別人著作圖01/10 01:14
115F→: 然後又做出實質近似的東西,你光是在著作權就有危險01/10 01:15
118F→: 你不一定會被告敗訴,但不爽你的人一定會告你01/10 01:15
122F→: 再來,好。版權方要舉證你"接觸"餵他的著作有難度01/10 01:16
123F→: 但他還是可以用版權這一塊告你,所以坦白說AI在法律上01/10 01:17
125F→: 你面臨的問題跟二創繪師差不多的,沒有AI就有逃過一劫01/10 01:18
128F→: 這種事,赤松他擁護的應該算是用AI畫出原創作品01/10 01:19
129F→: 他講這種原創畫有著作權我可以同意,但以抄跟目的是01/10 01:19
134F→: 抄像某著作的作品,我想這不是赤松他想辯護的東西01/10 01:20
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