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Fw: [轉錄] 神器譜:明國槍械落後同時期的西方
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作者: Reewalker - 發表於 2022/04/11 12:07(2年前)
30Fkuma660224: 跟國產無關 是公營體制+朱家勞役工匠04/10 10:41
31Fkuma660224: 好的民間工匠不會想去官廠當低薪勞役04/10 10:42
32Fkuma660224: 內部沒有競爭 形不成產業04/10 10:43
33Fkuma660224: 槍械又不是能去市場買的04/10 10:44
34Fkuma660224: 是壟斷性國營 加上近似奴役的工匠制度04/10 10:44
35Fkuma660224: 導致中央官槍都是垃圾 邊城外貿民槍反而ok04/10 10:45
36Fkuma660224: 但民間做槍 是違法的 不成體系規模04/10 10:46
37Fkuma660224: 啥明軍火力中毒症,笑死,一半是吹的04/10 10:48
38Fkuma660224: 其實只是近戰不行 想靠火力 火力又弱04/10 10:49
[轉錄] 聽說甲午戰爭當初大家是看好中國?
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作者: Reewalker - 發表於 2018/08/23 06:08(5年前)
14Fkuma660224: 是剛好遇上新式速射砲佔優勢的空檔180.217.147.37 07/19 10:56
15Fkuma660224: 那批速射砲本來是想要賣給清朝的180.217.147.37 07/19 10:56
17Fkuma660224: 但清朝覺得優先性不大,省錢用在別處180.217.147.37 07/19 10:57
18Fkuma660224: 這批西洋速射砲,幾年後被日本買走180.217.147.37 07/19 10:57
21Fkuma660224: 反過來把未持續更新的清朝海軍打殘180.217.147.37 07/19 10:58
22Fkuma660224: 噸位只是防禦,持續更新武器才是火力180.217.147.37 07/19 10:58
23Fkuma660224: 軍艦淘汰不快,但加強火力是持續進行180.217.147.37 07/19 10:59
25Fkuma660224: 沒跟上武裝新潮流,戰場就吃虧180.217.147.37 07/19 11:00
28Fkuma660224: 若把那批速射炮買下來升級會改善很多180.217.147.37 07/19 11:01
35Fkuma660224: 清朝沒有更新武器的預算,有噸位優勢180.217.147.37 07/19 11:38
36Fkuma660224: 也不會變成火力投射優勢。180.217.147.37 07/19 11:38
37Fkuma660224: 因為省錢,所以新式速射砲被敵人買走180.217.147.37 07/19 11:39
42Fkuma660224: 舊砲射速慢,跟不上敵艦的運動性180.217.147.37 07/19 11:42
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