Re: [討論] 2021 NBA歷史百大球員排行

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※ 引述《rfvtgb (........)》之銘言： : 前面我已經有大約的論述,我想MVP是第一大獎沒爭議 : 得分王如果這麼重要就會幫助你取得MVP. : MJ為何無法用得分王x10去輾壓別人, : 重點是因為他不是10xMVP,若是MJ的得分王都有幫他轉換為MVP, : 那重點就是10xMVP而不是10x得分王.這道理就和LBJ的亞軍一樣啊, 你這是在詭辯啊得分王跟MVP是分別獨立的獎項，判斷有各自的標準。甚麼拿了十個得分王就要10個MVP來證明得分王的重要性這種也講得出來。大聯盟打最多全壘打或是打點最多的一定是MVP嗎? 難道判斷MVP的標準只有得分嗎? 當然複雜多了。得分王是一個相對MVP客觀的項目，沒有經過記者、媒體的好惡評斷。表示球員在一個以得分高低判斷輸贏職業比賽中，實打實的在一個賽季中平均得分贏過同聯盟幾百個競爭的球員。就算大家再討厭哈登要飯，他就是有辦法要飯要到得分王。更別說有人拿下10次得分王，生涯30分也是史上最高。今年咖哩拿下再度拿下得分王，國外體育網站NBC也寫了一篇特別報導 Steph Curry joins exclusive list of scoring champ legends https://reurl.cc/3aW55l When it comes to NBA scoring kings, this group is royalty. Many players have led the league in scoring, few have done so more than once, and one has done it 10 times. The newest member of that group of certified bucket-getters is Steph Curry, who on Sunday became just the 18th player in NBA history to win multiple scoring titles. Curry had 46 points against the Grizzlies to finish the season with an average of 32.0 points per game to win his second scoring title. That was enough to edge the Washington Wizards’ Bradley Beal, who averaged 31.3 points and missed three of the last four games of the season. Steph joins an exclusive list that includes names like Michael, Kobe, Wilt and these other legends…. 人家說咖哩加入得分王連兩次的傳奇行列，你說官方沒獎項所以不重要。 NBA沒有正式獎項的很多好嗎...但是重要的也是會記錄。 https://www.usab.com/basketball/players/mens/j/jordan-michael.aspx Michael Jordan NBA Highlights: 其中一項 Led the NBA in scoring in 10 seasons, a NBA record, and tied Wilt Chamberlain's record of seven consecutive scoring titles. 得分王是可以不用拿獎，但是是一個球員生涯一項重要的紀錄，認證這個球員的得分實力。去看一堆球員的比較，第一個拿出來比的不就是得分平均多少、累積多少? 再來看一下CBS的排名 NBA 史上TOP 15 https://reurl.cc/xG2Eez 1. Michael Jordan 1984-93, 1995-98, 2002-04: 30.1 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 5.3 apg, 214.0 Win Shares, 5-time MVP, 11-time All-NBA, 6-time champion The name says it all. The statistics do, as well. Add on: six-time NBA Finals MVP, 10-time scoring leader, nine-time All-Defensive teamer. And so on. The GOAT. 2. LeBron James 2003-present: 27.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 7.4 apg, 236.1 Win Shares, 4-time MVP, 15-time All-NBA, 4-time champion James has earned his spot here, and he may not be done. Three more full seasons at last year's output, a daunting but not impossible task for a 35-year-old all-time athlete in an era of superstars who often defy time, would see him pass Kareem as the game's all-time leader in points. He already has the eighth-most assists in league history. He could become the first player to be a Finals MVP with three different teams. And more rings, of course, remain within grasp. An all-timer still carving out his place in the game, with only one spot to go. 看出兩個傳奇球員描述的分別了嗎? LBJ就沒拿過多次得分王，敘述就不會注重在上面。(原文3冠改為4冠) 喬丹就是有本事拿下10得分王、9防守隊。同處一個TIER的上下級別，人家有甚麼大獎項、特殊紀錄你沒有，那就是別人比你高一檔的本錢了。 -- 棺材只會裝兩種人,一種是老到沒有嘴齒,壽終正寢的老年人, 另外一種就是鐵齒不信邪的少年人! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.174.38.97 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1627130194.A.A2D.html

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