[情報] 環太平洋導演和編劇談EVA的影響

看板movie作者 (SY)時間11年前 (2013/07/14 18:02), 編輯推噓72(797167)
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故事/編劇 Travic Beacham I think tonally it’s definitely an influence, because really what blew me away the first time I saw “Evangelion” was it treated this genre, this sort of silly genre – or a genre that could be sort of silly, and could be outlandish and cartoonish – and treated it with a real sophistication. Which I really liked. I think what I identified less with in “Evangelion” was the sort of apocalypticism of it, and kind of a surrender to human neuroses or whatever… 他認為EVA的調性肯定有影響到電影,讓他非常佩服的就是EVA用非常嚴謹深度的手法去 對待這種有點蠢、光怪陸離又很卡通的類型(機器人對巨大怪獸) 比較不同的是環太平洋沒有那些末世宗教論及心理疾病 Oh yeah, definitely. I think as a kid, Voltron was definitely a favorite of mine. Then, I really like Big O. I like the Gunbuster and Diebuster series. I really like Evangelion and Escaflowne. I can think of so many. It's sort of like a personal kind of technology. It's really like my primal being in a weird way. 他說小時候他喜歡百獸王聖戰士,之後喜歡BIG-O、鋼巴斯達1&2、福音戰士和聖天空戰記 ...等等。 導演 Guillermo del Toro That's one of the four animes I've never seen. I will acknowledge openly the influence of Patlabor, gladly. I'll fully acknowledge most Gaiden movies being an influence, but Evangelion, I have, and they bought it for me before the movie started and I made it a point not to watch it. I said "I don't know if it's close or not, but I don't want to be influenced," you know? Now I'm gonna watch it. I always loved the designs. I actually bought a couple of the toys because the look is fantastic. I don't know if it's the good guy or the bad guy but from a purely visual point of view I love it. I will watch it, I'm hugely influenced by anime; I have no problem with that above board but unfortunately I haven't seen Evangelion. I'm so attracted to the designs that I'd blindly go and buy all the toys but my daughter has watched it this year and said "You're gonna like it." And my daughter is my guru. My two daughters are my contact with the world. 戴托羅說沒看過EVA,在電影製作前,因為題材類似,他們有拿EVA給他參考 但他不想被受影響,所以當時就決定不看,現在他說他可以看了。 因為他一直認為EVA的設計很棒、非常吸引人,所以買了不少EVA的玩具 他女兒有看過動畫 而且跟戴托羅說他一定會喜歡 "I haven't seen Evangelion. I accept you Patlabor, [as an influence] from anime industry, or, Tetsujin-28, I don't have any problem saying 'I love them', 'they're an influence for me'. Regarding Evangelion, I have the DVDs, I haven't opened them, I haven't seen it. Yeah, there is anime influence [in Pacific Rim], but not from that anime in particular" 關於日本動畫的影響,他提到機動警察、鐵人28,他雖然有EVA的DVD,但還沒打開。 -------------------------------------------------- 總之就是編劇有看過EVA 導演沒看過EVA 但拍完這部準備要去看了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.253.26.84

07/14 18:03, , 1F
根本就是神魂合體設定啊!兩兩一組的,各國都有戰甲
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07/14 18:06, , 2F
宅哥導演 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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BIG-O!!!!鋼巴斯達!!!!果然!!!!!!!!!!!
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而且看來女兒也是個阿宅!!!!!!
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07/14 18:07, , 5F
聖天空戰紀 !
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07/14 18:08, , 6F
機設應該也有受裝甲騎兵影響 俄國駕駛服和機體都超像
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07/14 18:10, , 7F
看樣子 沒看過剛彈卡通
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07/14 18:17, , 8F
果然真的有受EVA影響嘛 不承認有抄eva的鄉民們可以閉嘴了
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07/14 18:22, , 9F
神魂合體XD 最後一部青春機器人作品...
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07/14 18:23, , 10F
70至80年代很多日本機器人卡通和美國合作如重新配音,然後
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07/14 18:24, , 11F
看新劇場版就好了
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07/14 18:25, , 12F
全球電視台又和美國購入播放.印象中90年代後的卡通就很少
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07/14 18:26, , 13F
編劇有看過 導演無(現在可看了) 但有一些影響
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07/14 18:26, , 14F
這段可以加入分析~
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07/14 18:27, , 15F
大大 請問有原文網址嗎?
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好無聊啊 ! 世界上的東西不過就是影響來影響去的,
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07/14 18:27, , 17F
科科,官方認證參考EVA囉www
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07/14 18:27, , 18F
EVA 很了不起嗎? 什麼都抄他的 ?
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07/14 18:28, , 19F
有參考或受到影響不能說是抄吧
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07/14 18:28, , 20F
推樓上 不知某些鄉民在激動什麼~一跟EVA比較就狂嗆
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07/14 18:28, , 21F
怎麼不說 EVA 抄生物學啊 ?
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07/14 18:28, , 22F
結果導演跑去看EVA GREEN ...... (誤)
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更正 推M大
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再說沒關係阿www 官方級的打臉
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07/14 18:28, , 25F
無聊嘛 !
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07/14 18:29, , 26F
再跳針沒關係啊www你也只有這種程度
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07/14 18:29, , 27F
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww_wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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07/14 18:29, , 28F
wwwww是什麼code?
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那些反EVA的人終於可以閉嘴了 一扯到EVA就亂噓人的鄉民
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07/14 18:30, , 30F
他們老早就說過有參考了,就鄉民腦補說他們抄襲不承認...
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07/14 18:30, , 31F
真的是莫名其妙阿
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07/14 18:31, , 32F
官方都承認有參考EVA了 那些亂噓人反EVA的可以閉嘴了嗎?
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心理疾病XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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那些堅持抄的,要不要提個完全獨創的作品來看ㄅ
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07/14 18:31, , 35F
對啊,不懂承認參考EVA有什麼好困難的XDD
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07/14 18:32, , 36F
EVA是個很棒的動畫 承認參考EVA有這麼不堪嗎??
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07/14 18:32, , 37F
可能覺得神作絕對不會參考EVA吧www
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07/14 18:32, , 38F
一看到EVA就噓的鄉民是在激動什麼阿??
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07/14 18:34, , 39F
噓民:你們不要亂講!怎麼可能有參考!我不信我不信
07/14 18:34, 39F
還有 174 則推文
07/14 20:30, , 214F
機動警察是寫實系的代表吧,說真的,我相信這部影響環太更大
07/14 20:30, 214F

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Big-O!show time!
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07/14 20:44, , 216F
剛巴的劇設+EVA的機設+BIG.O的大決,所以超級系 大小L
07/14 20:44, 216F

07/14 20:47, , 217F
看到EVA GREEN我笑了
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幹你馬的,有受到影響和抄EVA是同一回事喔,腦殘喔?
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07/14 21:21, , 219F
一直說抄襲的才是快點去吃大X啦,滿嘴都是..........
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我得感謝編劇與導演沒把EVA的死中二精神給弄進去
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07/14 21:26, , 221F
樓樓上應該要被水桶吧...
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07/14 21:28, , 222F
大家沒發現嗎?其實主機機體很像機動警查
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像海大大 小心有人會在檢舉區說你人身攻擊www
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07/14 21:32, , 224F
年輕人你太衝動了
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07/14 21:33, , 225F
朋友是說澳洲像機動警察,我只覺得俄有點裝甲騎兵的風格
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07/14 21:36, , 226F
像海 裡的魚一樣 被釣上來了
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還有日本機的頭有像太陽之牙的機體
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這麼一說俄國的還真的滿像移動棺材的www
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純噓MikuKing
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俄國機連絕招都跟裝甲騎兵一樣阿 XDDD
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眼鏡狗有絕招嗎XD 自己跌倒爆炸(誤
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07/14 22:08, , 232F
眼鏡狗的伸縮拳?
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他看過的動畫也真多耶XDD
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07/14 22:45, , 234F
伸縮拳阿 一模一樣 XDDD
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07/14 23:08, , 235F
一票日本動漫界編導出面相挺環太平洋,協助拍攝階段
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07/14 23:09, , 236F
這樣算是合法交流授權吧,動漫界大老都相挺了,還有話酸?
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07/14 23:38, , 237F
沒辦法 酸民都是loser 不酸它們沒辦法活著
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07/15 00:48, , 238F
別再用EVA廚環太平洋了,要廚也用鋼彈G來廚,真正武鬥機器人
07/15 00:48, 238F

07/15 01:01, , 239F
1994年剛彈G就有的概念 EVA還晚了一年 兩人同時駕駛也有唷
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07/15 01:07, , 241F
吉普賽危機整體機甲也比較類似 神威鋼彈,所以說一直提EVA的
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07/15 01:08, , 242F
是不是只有看過EVA呀? 真的希望不要提EVA了,把這部當作獨立
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07/15 01:08, , 243F
作品看待。
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07/15 02:35, , 244F
MikuKing沒救了 典型動漫憤怒宅
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07/15 09:06, , 245F
EVA廚的嘴臉真的很噁心...
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07/15 11:13, , 246F
EVA迷沒這麼無聊,會吵的大都是來引戰的反串
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07/15 13:38, , 247F
EVA除了結局根本神作 氣氛緊張感營造的太棒了
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07/15 13:40, , 248F
環太平洋也沒eva那種緊張感
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07/15 16:34, , 249F
超愛機動警察 >////<
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07/16 00:39, , 250F
這篇看起來意思不就是:他們沒有參考EVA,但實際上可能
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07/16 00:40, , 251F
有受其影響。
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07/16 05:32, , 252F
比較像鋼巴斯達~ EVA真的還好
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07/17 01:07, , 253F
剛巴斯達超好看 ~~
07/17 01:07, 253F
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