Re: [文法] ____ it rains, go into the building.

看板Eng-Class作者 (paul)時間14年前 (2012/02/08 01:28), 編輯推噓7(7推 0噓 31→)
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Despite the heated exchange I enjoyed both sides of the argument. But I am not a scholar, and I resent over-analyzing simple, everyday English. Central to this argument is the strength, or the degree of certainty contained in the adverb 'soon', which in my opinion can be easily clarified with just a little elaboration of the original dialogue... ----- Tina: It is raining soon. Mary: How do you know? Maybe it is just cloudy. Tina: Just cloudy? Didn't you hear the distant thunder roaring? Mary: Nope. I was in the basement. Tina: Trust me. It is raining soon. I can smell it in the air. Mary: Fine. Let's go take our clothes in WHEN it does. But IF it doesn't, you better see a doctor about your nose. ----- Tina: It is raining tomorrow. Mary: How do you know? Tina: The forecast said so. Mary: pfff. They ain't always right. Tina: They are usually right around this time of year. Mary: Oh well. I won't go out to jog IF it does then. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 219.69.124.133
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I just asked one of my friends from the U.S. He said
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there's no such thing as "it's raining soon/tomorrow"
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or at least he and other native speakers won't even
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say that. They'd rather say "its gonna/will rain
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soon/tomorrow.
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02/08 02:56, , 6F
an important issue is that the sentence occurred in
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a test question; test questions should be decided
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without any context other than directly supplied
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by the test question itself. I CAN write a short
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conversation in which I supply enough context to
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make the sentence "it is raining soon" make sense,
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even to a native speaker; my point is, as it has
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always been, is that "it is raining soon" is
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incorrect as it stands in that Tina/Mary conver-
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sation.
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And by extension, "it is raining soon" cannot stand
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by itself as an English sentence.
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02/08 03:05, , 18F
Correction: I'm not sure I can write "it is raining
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soon" and make it make sense in a conversation. I
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think I can write "it is raining tomorrow" and have
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THAT make sense...
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I agree with lim, I'll have to make a pretty big
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stretch to make the sentence work...
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02/08 13:23, , 24F
"It is raining soon"is not a formal but still makes
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sense.
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02/08 13:28, , 26F
This is conversation, don't be 八股.If it is a
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composition, I totally agree with you!
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"It's raining soon" in a composition is a bad writing
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02/08 13:37, , 29F
Wrong typing.There should be no "a" in my first bump.
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This is a test question. If I can't be 八股 here,
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there is no point in studying English.
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Don't you know 教改 is to be un-八股? There are more
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and more informal usages in dialogue quiz.If you have
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taught secondary shool students English, you may know
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that.
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There is informal English and there is semantic anomaly
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I'm not sur https://muxiv.com
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