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3F推: 王平後來守山下就擋張了，他領的還是副軍。03/22 07:22
4F→: 王能辦到馬沒理由不行03/22 07:22
55F推: 如果王平照丞相的戰術指南走也被打爆，那還可以推給丞相03/22 17:45
56F→: ，問題就王平沒被打爆。03/22 17:45
57F推: 太多自以為天才的蠢蛋把將在外君命有所不受當藉口，馬顯03/22 17:49
58F→: 然也是其中之一。03/22 17:49
59F推: 要玩這套就是祈禱自己真能贏，不然就是等著被清算。03/22 17:51
72F推: 因為快渴死了是要衝個雕03/22 22:22
73F→: 他要是能在爬山之餘作好包含水源在內所有物資的補給那也03/22 22:24
74F→: 還可以說臨機應變有道理 連基本生存要件都確保不了是要03/22 22:25
75F→: 怎麼勢如破竹03/22 22:25
76F→: 或者說不要主軍都上山而是以別動隊的規模安排一支上去當03/22 22:29
77F→: 奇兵 應該都不會死得那麼慘03/22 22:29
82F→: 不按上司指示辦事 不聽有經驗的部下勸戒 沒有本事實踐自03/22 23:11
83F→: 己的計畫 沒有勇氣面對自己出的包而逃走 讓部下同僚幫他03/22 23:12
84F→: 擦屁股 以上這幾點加起來實在找不出饒他一命的理由03/22 23:12
85F→: 已經不是什麼張郃是名將或者張郃兵比較多這些藉口可以開03/22 23:14
86F→: 脫了 馬謖自身在街亭就是一脫拉庫的雷點03/22 23:15
95F推: 我覺得真的不要拿什麼將在外君命有所不受的幹話來找藉口03/23 08:50
96F→: 。馬謖是韓信吳起這種趴數的將領嗎？還是北伐總指揮？如03/23 08:50
97F→: 果都不是，那他憑什麼不按指示辦事？03/23 08:50
98F→: 他不聽指示，那他有本事實踐自己的計劃嗎？沒有。他有擔03/23 08:51
99F→: 當承受失敗嗎？沒有。03/23 08:51
100F→: 他連力戰而亡這種最低限度的要求都辦不到了。03/23 08:52
128F推: 王平更後面還有三萬擋十萬的成就，防禦戰應該算很有料。03/23 20:31
3F推: 王平後來守山下就擋張了，他領的還是副軍。03/22 07:22
4F→: 王能辦到馬沒理由不行03/22 07:22
55F推: 如果王平照丞相的戰術指南走也被打爆，那還可以推給丞相03/22 17:45
56F→: ，問題就王平沒被打爆。03/22 17:45
57F推: 太多自以為天才的蠢蛋把將在外君命有所不受當藉口，馬顯03/22 17:49
58F→: 然也是其中之一。03/22 17:49
59F推: 要玩這套就是祈禱自己真能贏，不然就是等著被清算。03/22 17:51
72F推: 因為快渴死了是要衝個雕03/22 22:22
73F→: 他要是能在爬山之餘作好包含水源在內所有物資的補給那也03/22 22:24
74F→: 還可以說臨機應變有道理 連基本生存要件都確保不了是要03/22 22:25
75F→: 怎麼勢如破竹03/22 22:25
76F→: 或者說不要主軍都上山而是以別動隊的規模安排一支上去當03/22 22:29
77F→: 奇兵 應該都不會死得那麼慘03/22 22:29
82F→: 不按上司指示辦事 不聽有經驗的部下勸戒 沒有本事實踐自03/22 23:11
83F→: 己的計畫 沒有勇氣面對自己出的包而逃走 讓部下同僚幫他03/22 23:12
84F→: 擦屁股 以上這幾點加起來實在找不出饒他一命的理由03/22 23:12
85F→: 已經不是什麼張郃是名將或者張郃兵比較多這些藉口可以開03/22 23:14
86F→: 脫了 馬謖自身在街亭就是一脫拉庫的雷點03/22 23:15
20F推: 可能是傅彤生還的部下回國後對陳壽說的啊09/18 07:12
21F→: 當然部下也可能是美化老大才說 但也可能是傅彤真的有講09/18 07:13
47F推: 曹操對酒當歌也是敗了啊08/12 20:44
17F推: 三杯 開慶功宴07/05 16:00
44F推: 呂布類似麴義 有自己的軍隊 在戰場上證明過實力 但功勞06/04 17:15
45F→: 一大就秋起來 都有反叛記錄 差別只在呂布躲得掉清算麴義06/04 17:15
46F→: 沒躲掉06/04 17:15
47F→: （他們一樣都是邊境武人）06/04 17:16
52F推: 資源有限 都被呂布抄完了袁紹是抄個屁06/04 19:52
53F→: 如果是袁叫呂抄就算了 呂如果是自己行動也等於看袁沒有06/04 19:53
54F→: 論利論權 袁都不可能容忍呂06/04 19:54
60F推: 未遂跟既遂的差別 而且劉備可以說皇帝叫他動手的06/08 13:36
61F→: 老闆甚至爹娘再大 總大不過皇帝吧06/08 13:38
32F推: 高順明明被搞過還不想走，真的超奴。06/04 20:09
13F推: 為了中間才加入的蜀國跟提攜他的諸葛丞相一路燃燒生命到04/11 22:09
14F→: 最後一刻還把兩位大敵拖去當黃泉的伴手禮 光這點就足夠讓04/11 22:09
15F→: 人佩服了04/11 22:09
33F推: 袁術有暗殺劉寵成功啊02/25 19:36
58F推: 皇甫嵩每代統率都剛好90，我覺得可以再高一點。02/12 13:35