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[討論] 死後有可能化為烏有嗎
[ Atheism ]17 留言, 推噓總分: +6
作者: politicsfedo - 發表於 2012/06/19 15:17(12年前)
1Fkiddingsa:腦部機能停止就和死了一樣 之後就沒有值得在意的事了06/19 15:31
Re: [閒聊] 如果沒有神 普遍道德倫理為何需要被接受?
[ Atheism ]10 留言, 推噓總分: +1
作者: kuopohung - 發表於 2012/06/13 18:45(12年前)
3Fkiddingsa:你可以用「非科學決定論」解釋原問題 試試該說的實用性06/13 18:49
Re: [閒聊] 如果沒有神 普遍道德倫理為何需要被接受?
[ Atheism ]10 留言, 推噓總分: 0
作者: loser1 - 發表於 2012/06/13 18:36(12年前)
1Fkiddingsa:基於集體的利益而被訂定嗎? 但這種團體很容易就會歧視06/13 17:48
2Fkiddingsa:殺害其他的團體 有符合Universal Ethic嗎?06/13 17:49
3Fkiddingsa:這帶來的會是相對的 而非普遍的吧?06/13 17:55
6Fkiddingsa:不存於現實 但存於形上的客觀知識世界06/13 18:43
8Fkiddingsa:純粹的想像概念 和本於定義的形上概念 差距頗大06/13 18:46
9Fkiddingsa:不過經你這麼一說 我可以理解了 本與非現實 非經驗的06/13 18:50
10Fkiddingsa:形上&先驗概念 推得一個非經驗 非經驗的形上&先驗存在06/13 18:51
11Fkiddingsa:還真是合理...兩個都只在世界三裡存在...06/13 18:51
12Fkiddingsa: 非現實06/13 18:52
13Fkiddingsa:二樓 定律是關係 而非斷定 你想講的是定義吧....06/13 18:56
Re: [閒聊] 如果沒有神 普遍道德倫理為何需要被接受?
[ Atheism ]7 留言, 推噓總分: +2
作者: loser1 - 發表於 2012/06/13 17:35(12年前)
1Fkiddingsa:基於集體的利益而被訂定嗎? 但這種團體很容易就會歧視06/13 17:48
2Fkiddingsa:殺害其他的團體 有符合Universal Ethic嗎?06/13 17:49
3Fkiddingsa:這帶來的會是相對的 而非普遍的吧?06/13 17:55
5Fkiddingsa:As a concept, It do exist.06/13 18:28
7Fkiddingsa:Sure, It's a physical law , not a ethic .06/13 18:45
Re: [閒聊] 如果沒有神 普遍道德倫理為何需要被接受?
[ Atheism ]26 留言, 推噓總分: +5
作者: hermitwhite - 發表於 2012/06/13 16:31(12年前)
2Fkiddingsa:演化確實是最適合的觀點06/13 16:44
Re: [閒聊] 如果沒有神 道德倫理為何需要被接受 實行
[ Atheism ]27 留言, 推噓總分: 0
作者: kiddingsa - 發表於 2012/06/13 15:14(12年前)
5Fkiddingsa:道德標準不統一是事實 但如果要讓它統一的話 有沒有比06/13 15:21
6Fkiddingsa:「一神假說」更有效的概念手段存在呢?06/13 15:22
15Fkiddingsa:恩 康德等人的理論成於一神教之後 但洞窟理論是在此之06/13 16:02
16Fkiddingsa:前的 且相關的理論使得承襲希臘學說的羅馬人對一神假說06/13 16:03
17Fkiddingsa:有著極高的接受度 從這方面來看 可稱為成因嗎?06/13 16:03
21Fkiddingsa:是個簡單且又對一般人有效的說服工具?06/13 16:42
Re: [閒聊] 如果沒有神 道德倫理為何需要被接受 實行
[ Atheism ]13 留言, 推噓總分: +2
作者: zeuklie - 發表於 2012/06/13 14:40(12年前)
1Fkiddingsa:一開始只是想閒聊所以沒很仔細把文章架好...抱歉了06/13 14:41
2Fkiddingsa:重構的的主題是「何種手段會有效」 能勞駕您再來聊聊06/13 14:42
3Fkiddingsa:這問題嗎?06/13 14:43
4Fkiddingsa:確實 我有 理念論 唯實論 唯理論 先驗唯心論 先驗論06/13 14:45
5Fkiddingsa:等反經驗的說法 皆間接或直接導致人得出一神概念」之感06/13 14:46
12Fkiddingsa:一開始沒想好 把道德和倫理學放進去了...再次抱歉...06/13 15:14
13Fkiddingsa:我同意Z大的說法 可否再論論看「Universal Ethic」呢?06/13 15:15
[閒聊] 如果沒有神 普遍道德倫理為何需要被接受?
[ Atheism ]28 留言, 推噓總分: +2
作者: kiddingsa - 發表於 2012/06/13 13:42(12年前)
5Fkiddingsa:抱歉 我想論的不是來源 標題下錯 已修改為接受&實行06/13 14:10
6Fkiddingsa:是的 基本上我接受權力意志說 但這是個很好的 做為不06/13 14:11
7Fkiddingsa:接受現存倫理道德的藉口不是? 用下去之後反而難以讓眾人06/13 14:11
8Fkiddingsa:接受普世標準06/13 14:11
9Fkiddingsa:我想來想去 還是覺得造個神出來 是最好的方法06/13 14:16
10Fkiddingsa:造出來之後 不用解釋 不用理由 就能叫所有處於神之下的06/13 14:16
11Fkiddingsa:人 無條件的接受這個標準了06/13 14:17
16Fkiddingsa:我確定我想問的不是倫理學 而是比較接近「謎因」的問題06/13 17:26
18Fkiddingsa:我不是要問關於這個概念的解釋 而是想問這些概念對人的06/13 17:28
19Fkiddingsa:傳染力 & 互相競爭的情況 謎因一辭語出 道斯金 「自私06/13 17:29
20Fkiddingsa:的基因」一書 指的是透過傳宗接代&傳教等方式 被傳播06/13 17:30
21Fkiddingsa:的概念06/13 17:31
23Fkiddingsa:先驗假設的「」 就是某種高於人的存在不是?06/13 17:44
24Fkiddingsa:或可稱為神 或可稱為唯一 總之 指的是這種假設的存在06/13 17:45
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