Re: [爆卦] ICO關於LSE的論文門裁定全文公告上網
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Decision (including any steps ordered)
決議
1. The complainant has requested the names of the examiners who
examined the then-Miss Tsai Ing-wen (now President of Taiwan) for her
PhD and the report from her viva. The Council of the London School of
Economics and Political Science (“the LSE”) denied holding the
requested information.
一個要求提供當時蔡英文的博士examiners以及蔡英文的viva報告的申訴已經被提出,
倫敦政經(LSE)否定持有以上所要求的訊息
如果對於LSE取得博士學位步驟不清楚的可以查看
(https://info.lse.ac.uk/current-students/phd-academy/phd-journey)
簡單的說跟台灣也差不多
2. The Commissioner’s decision is that, on the balance of probabilities, the
LSE does not hold the requested information.
Commissioner決議LSE沒持有被要求的訊息
3. The Commissioner does not require further steps.
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Scope of the case
案由
7. The complainant contacted the Commissioner on 28 May 2021 to
complain about the way his request for information had been handled.
上訴方在5月28抱怨了此前關於訊息要求的處理方式
8. The Commissioner contacted the complainant on 8 November 2021. She
pointed out that, at the time of the exam, the LSE did not have its own
degree-awarding powers and therefore any degrees were conferred on
LSE students by the University of London. She noted that she had
already confirmed that the University of London held the information in
question and that, even if the LSE also held the same information, it
would be exempt from disclosure. She therefore invited the complainant
to withdraw his request.
委員會在11月8號聯絡的上訴方，委員會指出LSE在蔡英文取得學位當時沒有授予學位
的權力，所以學位授予都是透過倫敦大學(University of London, UoL)，委員會註明
已經確認倫敦大學持有過本案所要求的訊息，即使LSE也持有過相同的訊息，但是因
這些訊息被保護而不會公布。所以委員會期待(invite)上訴方撤回要求。
9. The complainant refused to withdraw his request and argued that the
LSE’s denial conflicted with its public statements to the effect that
President Tsai’s degree had been correctly awarded.
上訴方拒絕並提出LSE的否定持有蔡英文examiner及口試報告訊息與LSE公布蔡英文學歷
有所衝突。
10. The Commissioner considers that the scope of her investigation is to
determine whether the LSE holds the names of the examiners and the
viva report.
委員會考慮到本案只是要找出LSE是否持有examiners的名字以及viva報告
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Reasons for decision
論據
Section 1 (Held/Not Held)
11. Section 1(1) of the FOIA states that:
Any person making a request for information to a public authority is
entitled –
(a) to be informed in writing by the public authority whether it holds
information of the description specified in the request, and
(b) if that is the case, to have that information communicated to
him.
跳過，有興趣自己翻
12. In cases where a dispute arises over the extent of the recorded
information that was held by a public authority at the time of a request,
the Commissioner will consider the complainant’s evidence and
arguments. She will also consider the actions taken by the authority to
check that the information is not held and any other reasons offered by
the public authority to explain why the information is not held. Finally,
she will consider any reason why it is inherently likely or unlikely that
information is not held.
13. For clarity, the Commissioner is not expected to prove categorically
whether the information is held, she is only required to make a
judgement on whether the information is held on the civil standard of
the balance of probabilities.
免責聲明
14. The Commissioner has issued numerous decision notices concerning
President Tsai’s PhD award.1 These decisions record some of the
background and controversies about the degree and the Commissioner
considers it would serve no useful purpose to repeat them here.
15. The LSE reiterated in its response that, in 1984 (when the degree was
awarded) all LSE students received their degrees from the University of
London as it did not have the power itself to confer degrees. The
University of London was responsible for arranging and invigilating any
examinations and the LSE would receive a notification confirming that a
particular student had been awarded a degree.
LSE重申在1984年時所有LSE學生的學位皆由倫敦大學授予，而其中取得學位過程也
由倫敦大學負責，LSE則會收到倫敦大學通知確認學生是否被授予學位。
16. The LSE accepted that it did still retain President Tsai’s student record
,
but that that record only dealt with her activities at the LSE – and this
did not include details of her final examination or viva.
LSE接受持有蔡英文學生活動紀錄的事實，但是此紀錄沒有包含蔡英文的final
examination或是口試(viva)的詳細訊息。
17. The student record had been examined and no definitive record of the
examiners had been found. Whilst one document indicated that a
particular individual might have been an examiner, the LSE had no way
of cross-checking whether that individual had in fact performed that role
– and the LSE considered it unlikely that they would have done so.
該學生紀錄沒有發現一個明確的examiner。雖然該紀錄中有提到一個可能的examiner，
但是LSE不可能有辦法交叉確認該人是否為examiner- LSE並不認為自己會這樣做。(註:
因為這一切都是由倫敦大學處理。)
18. The LSE was satisfied that no relevant information had been destroyed
and that the reason that it did not hold the information now was that it
had never held the information – because the information was held by
the University of London. It had been able to confirm the authenticity of
the degree based on the copy of the notification it had received from the
University of London, in 1984, confirming that President Tsai had been
awarded a PhD.
LSE確認沒有相關訊息被銷毀，而LSE沒有持有這些訊息的原因是因為LSE從來沒有持
有過這些訊息-因為這些訊息是由倫敦大學持有。蔡英文學歷的真假是由倫敦大學
的確認博士學位通知來確認。
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經查倫敦大學 Senate House Library
(https://london.ac.uk/senate-house-library/search?search=unfair%20trade)
無法搜尋到蔡英文的紀錄。而蔡英文自己所稱的論文
"Unfair trade practices and safeguard actions"
也無法在倫敦大學圖書館裡找到
我想倫敦大學肯定是野雞學校，比台灣的公立大學還不如。
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重點是倫敦大學圖書館裡沒有1.5博士的論文，蔡英文不是自己說他的口試委員
說他很優秀，這麼優秀的博士生其論文沒有被收錄，果然是1.5博士
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※ 編輯: airyptt (120.154.151.96 澳大利亞), 12/05/2021 08:14:16
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所以蔡英文的精裝本在哪? 這個是常識，一定會自己留本。我是不知道你有沒有
不過我看你應該不懂整個程序。就算是現在該論文還是找不到。
※ 編輯: airyptt (120.154.151.96 澳大利亞), 12/05/2021 08:20:26
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隨便你怎麼說，我也沒否認蔡英文博士學位。蔡英文如果是用買的我也不在乎。
不過一個沒吃過苦的廢物，在那邊整天拷洗勞工假太多，每天一開口就說謊，
自己帶頭開網軍社群中心，看到網軍亂象還繼續編預算還愈編愈多。
這個垃圾的惡行惡狀比須讓人看到，就算她博士是真的，其取得過程也實在
讓人啼笑皆非，本質上就是一個廢物。
※ 編輯: airyptt (120.154.151.96 澳大利亞), 12/05/2021 08:25:46
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你是不是以為蔡英文博士學位是在國內拿的? 你怎麼都是找國內證據?
遺失了也不補送一本回母校，還有臉說自己國外博士。
也不意外拉，都說自己口試委員掛了。 笑死
※ 編輯: airyptt (120.154.151.96 澳大利亞), 12/05/2021 08:27:58
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