Re: [問題] 收到國史館的回覆
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: 推 uly1113:可是版大,國史館回文說孫文在武昌起義之後,回到國內以前 08/15 17:31
: → uly1113:他在歐洲阻止各銀行借錢給清朝,這是袁世凱逼皇帝退位的重 08/15 17:32
: → uly1113:要原因,這是真的嗎? 08/15 17:33
: → plamc:我認為不是 08/15 17:35
: → Aadmiral:我認為是。 08/15 17:37
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: 推 Intruder:當然是。 08/15 17:38
: 推 hgt:請問說"是"的人 孫文有何立場 有何影響力 去說服四國銀行團? 08/15 20:13
: → hgt:引個史料讓本人開開眼界 08/15 20:14
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首先,誰都可以"認為是"或"認為不是"。高興就好。
不過,我認為要求"認為是"的人"引個史料"有幾點不合理。
1. 國史館的認定就已經是"史料"了。我不是說國史館不會錯,
而是國史館的認定不算史料的話,那漢書, 三國志應該也不算史料了。
更別提一堆來路不明的一家之言...
2. 同樣的,我不是說國史館不會錯,但那是"史家之言"。
要翻案的話,也是"認為不是"的人應該"引個史料"。
怎麼會是"認為是"的人提史料呢?
我認同亞歷山大有建立橫跨歐亞非的大帝國也要"引個史料"嗎?
3.
如果國史館的推論不算數的話
那麼四國銀行團為啥不借錢,也根本沒史料可以引。
更本就不會有任何正式文件紀錄"不借錢的原因"
無論是不是因為 國父勸說才不借錢,都不可能白紙黑字寫的。
這是常識,四國銀行團根本就不可能寫下類似下面這種記錄。
"清庭,不好意思,我本來想借錢給你,可是因為孫文說..."
或
"清庭,不好意思,我不能借錢,不過絕對不是因為孫文說..."
開眼界了吧!?
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