[新聞] 魔戒女演員遊說應該由女性出演甘道夫

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Lord of the Rings actress lobbies for a female Gandalf https://tinyurl.com/yy4jn4yh Amazon Prime Video’s The Lord of the Rings TV series is one of many epic fantasy shows coming down the pipeline now that HBO’s Game of Thrones has come to an end. And one of Game of Thrones’ greatest strengths was its portrayal of strong and fleshed-out female characters, many of whom defied the traditional tropes of the fantasy genre. We wanted to follow their stories just as much as — if not more than — their guys in the cast. All of the series trying to become the “next Game of Thrones” will have to make the same kinds of strides when it comes to representing women if they hope to have the same impact, and Robyn Malcolm, who portrayed Morwen in Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings movies (the Rohirrim woman who sped her two children away in The Two Towers when Saruman’s forces attacks), knows how Amazon’s new show can do just that. In an interview with Stuff, the actress, who appeared in The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, suggested that the upcoming TV series give Gandalf’s role to a woman. “Those old legends, those old mythical stories, they’re so based within a patriarchal landscape,” Malcolm said. “Why not look at the magic of a matrilineal world, where the magical powerhouses are women?” It would be refreshing to see some of these stories with a more diverse cast. Making the “magical powerhouse” of The Lord of the Rings a woman may create a role similar to that of Moiraine, the Aes Sedai from Robert Jordan’s The Wheel of Time series, which is also being adapted by Amazon and touted as the next Game of Thrones. “We’ve got uteruses, and back in the day, there was a real sort of magic and sacredness and sort of brutality around that,” Malcolm added. “We’ve had female Hamlets. Why not?” Malcolm went on to list her picks for the role, saying that the chosen actress would need to have “gravitas and a real lot of personal power” to pull it off. Among her suggestions were Rena Owen, Rachel House, Dame Judi, Eileen Atkins, and Maggie Smith. Now, this suggestion is purely academic, because Amazon’s show is set during the Second Age of Middle-earth, before Gandalf and the other wizards turned up. So Gandalf very probably won’t appear in the show at all, as a man or a woman. But let’s continue with this as a thought experiment anyway. If a series were to go ahead with a female Gandalf, it would likely receive a fair amount of backlash from hardcore Tolkienites. We’ve seen similar reactions to broadening the casts of franchises like Star Wars and the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and it’d be bound to happen here as well. In fact, some fans have already expressed their disapproval of a female Gandalf, while others are just flabbergasted by the idea of Gandalf not being played by Sir Ian McKellen, which, okay, fair. Nerdrotic’s Gary Buecher even uploaded a video about how much he disliked the idea. “No,” he says. “It’s time for you to create your own goddamned story. Now, Lord of the Rings, Tolkien, that’s where I put my foot down and I have promised…I will dedicate my entire channel to bringing down Amazon if they screw with Lord of the Rings.” Again, this isn’t going to happen in any case, but the passion here should tell you something. Unfortunately, women writers have frequently been barred from the genre up until fairly recently, so creating “their own goddamned story” may be more difficult than hoping to finally be given a bigger part in a more well-known one. There’s really no reason Gandalf couldn’t be played by a woman, or barring that, a series could create a bigger role for another female character, whether drawn from Tolkien’s legendarium or created from whole cloth. In general, the genderbending of typically male roles is certainly a concept we could start embracing more. It’s worked for Shakespearean adaptations time and time again, so why not our favorite SFF stories? ==== Amazon Prime Video要出魔戒電視劇了。 然後曾參演魔戒的女演員Robyn Malcolm拋出這個想法:為什麼不能有女性的甘道夫。 下面我只譯一下她的說法.... “Those old legends, those old mythical stories, they’re so based within a patriarchal landscape,” Malcolm said. “Why not look at the magic of a matrilineal world, where the magical powerhouses are women?” 那些古老的傳說,那些古代的神秘故事,都是基於父權視野而創作的。為什麼不看看女性 的魔法世界?在這之中的魔法強者就是女性。 “We’ve got uteruses, and back in the day, there was a real sort of magic and sacredness and sort of brutality around that,” Malcolm added. “We’ve had female Hamlets. Why not?” 我們有子宮,這在過往的日子中就是圍繞在四周中真實存在的某種魔法、神聖和某種殘酷 。我們己有了女性哈姆雷特,為什麼不呢? Malcolm went on to list her picks for the role, saying that the chosen actress would need to have “gravitas and a real lot of personal power” to pull it off. Among her suggestions were Rena Owen, Rachel House, Dame Judi, Eileen Atkins, and Maggie Smith. 這是她點名那些女演員適合演甘道夫。就不譯了.... 所以......風聲出來了,會改嗎? -- It is difficult to communicate a life with words. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.165.37.143 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/C_Chat/M.1570334644.A.DF0.html ※ 編輯: wizardfizban (1.165.37.143 臺灣), 10/06/2019 12:04:28

10/06 12:05, 4年前 , 1F
走火入魔....
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u shall not pass(抖奶)
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原來是性轉啊,日本又領先了
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10/06 12:05, 4年前 , 4F
硬要
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 5F
出錢的是老大
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 6F
不考慮讓主角佛羅多性轉嗎
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 7F
女權最大的毛病是不去找那些本來就是女性主役的創作,只
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 8F
會吃知名男角的豆腐
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 9F
不錯啊,大家FGO也玩得很開心
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 10F
要看女性演甘道夫就把版權賣給日本做動畫就好啦,還很有
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 11F
跟托爾金子孫講啊 他們會同意再來搞政治正確
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 12F
好奇實質是台灣女權高還是美國女權高,感覺台灣男人比較尊
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10/06 12:06, 4年前 , 13F
重女性,台女有些性格也蠻剽悍的?
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10/06 12:07, 4年前 , 14F
機會整團全變成女的呢
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10/06 12:07, 4年前 , 15F
可以啊 女性戴長鬍出來演如何
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10/06 12:07, 4年前 , 16F
讓生理女心裡男雙性戀黑人演好了
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10/06 12:07, 4年前 , 17F
今天你要弄一個新作 有個女性法獅老智者 我覺得很ok
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10/06 12:07, 4年前 , 18F
反正老人外型不要變就好 改成女甘道夫也不會怎樣
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10/06 12:07, 4年前 , 19F
托爾金子孫光是不照原著拍就氣得要死了 還讓妳搞性轉
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10/06 12:08, 4年前 , 20F
什麼都要女的 尊重原作好ㄇ
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10/06 12:08, 4年前 , 21F
畢竟本來就沒性別吧 但就不要給我搞什麼性轉又回春
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10/06 12:08, 4年前 , 22F
甘道夫照原作敘述就是灰袍灰鬍以及白袍白鬍
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10/06 12:08, 4年前 , 23F
魔戒不是已經有伊歐玟殺掉安格馬巫王的劇情了....
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10/06 12:08, 4年前 , 24F
問題是魔戒原作就擺明他是男的
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10/06 12:08, 4年前 , 25F
如果女演員願意化妝成這樣 那有何不可
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10/06 12:08, 4年前 , 26F
也沒有吧 應該說邁雅有性別之分嗎
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 27F
好奇為何不自己以女性為觀點主創作能成為經典的文學
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 28F
完全走火入魔了 這些SJW....
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 29F
甘道夫的形象都已經根深蒂固了還要換???
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 30F
可是甘道夫被囚禁那段...然後又被巨雕拯救欸
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 31F
好啦 除非你要凹說是長鬍子美女啦 XD
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 32F
樓上 地海戰記後期就是 但所有人拿到都亂改...
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 33F
不是啊,甘道夫的戰力本身不算太強欸www
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 34F
那凱爾崔蘭要不要男性來演 Why not?
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10/06 12:09, 4年前 , 35F
整天想魔改世界名著 有尊重原作以男性為主角的想法嗎
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10/06 12:10, 4年前 , 36F
有吧 主神都有性別之分了
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10/06 12:10, 4年前 , 37F
你要弄個女甘道夫不會自己創作嗎 這樣感覺只是想蹭大腿阿
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10/06 12:10, 4年前 , 39F
魔戒明明一堆像凱蘭崔爾這種破格老妖婆,幹嘛搶甘道夫w
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還有 264 則推文
10/06 15:35, 4年前 , 304F
全員性轉!!!這個很可以!!
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10/06 15:35, 4年前 , 305F
凱蘭崔爾和ㄧ劍砍下戒靈王的伊歐玟表示:
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10/06 15:39, 4年前 , 306F
還有一堆女性主義奇幻作品等著拍,不要一直消費魔界好嗎
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10/06 15:44, 4年前 , 307F
二創的性轉,我可以
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10/06 15:45, 4年前 , 308F
有本事妳自己寫一個女性為魔法師主角的故事啊
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10/06 15:47, 4年前 , 309F
煩不煩啊 尊重原作會死喔幹
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10/06 15:49, 4年前 , 310F
要就自己重寫一個全新的女版魔戒 幹嘛魔改別人的東西
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10/06 15:51, 4年前 , 311F
有露就ok
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10/06 16:25, 4年前 , 312F
錢夠多就能搞啊,有本事去找想改的金主
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10/06 16:27, 4年前 , 313F
我想起之前那個貞德找黑人演員來演的事情
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10/06 16:34, 4年前 , 314F
腐女可能會第一個站出來抗議吧
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10/06 16:38, 4年前 , 315F
開膛手傑克還真有女的 黑執事
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10/06 16:55, 4年前 , 316F
什麼都能做 但是不能付錢
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10/06 16:59, 4年前 , 317F
演員直接去跟小托講看會不會被他嗆爆
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10/06 17:02, 4年前 , 318F
比爾博爾:女權都是白癡
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10/06 17:03, 4年前 , 319F
有必要嗎?有亞文、精靈女皇、伊歐文,還要性轉甘道夫做啥
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10/06 17:05, 4年前 , 320F
美、強、帥的女性都有了,性轉甘道夫是要湊「老」這屬性嗎
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10/06 17:10, 4年前 , 321F
母豬閉嘴= =
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10/06 17:14, 4年前 , 322F
自己寫一部小說隨便你編,不要當寄生蟲好不
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10/06 17:25, 4年前 , 323F
乾脆魔戒全部角色都性轉
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10/06 17:29, 4年前 , 324F
推薦她看小褲褲魔女
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10/06 17:39, 4年前 , 325F
我想看性轉索倫
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10/06 17:49, 4年前 , 326F
為什麼不給黑人演 為什麼不給同性戀演 為什麼不給亞洲
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10/06 17:49, 4年前 , 327F
人演
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10/06 17:54, 4年前 , 328F
我覺得這樣矯枉過正,不如你寫部強者都是女性的劇本如
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10/06 17:54, 4年前 , 329F
何?
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10/06 18:01, 4年前 , 330F
我等著看你們這群SJW甚麼時候去遊說讓女人演希特勒
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10/06 18:08, 4年前 , 331F
幹嘛不要新創一個作品弄他們想要的啊= =
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10/06 18:12, 4年前 , 332F
靠北喔 自己出一本魔戒啊
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10/06 18:24, 4年前 , 333F
蛤???
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10/06 18:24, 4年前 , 334F
自己寫一本完全女性視角就好
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10/06 18:53, 4年前 , 335F
我們都已經讓雅瑟王變女孩了,可以放過甘道夫嗎?
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10/06 19:09, 4年前 , 336F
滾,自己去寫一本魔戒,只想收割別人來滿足自己
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10/06 19:55, 4年前 , 337F
女魔王薩魯曼感覺也不錯啊
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10/06 21:06, 4年前 , 338F
有子宮?那就性轉然後一直無套內射進去啊
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10/06 22:25, 4年前 , 339F
走火入魔吧
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10/07 00:12, 4年前 , 340F
全部互換!!
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10/07 01:39, 4年前 , 341F
低能
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10/07 10:18, 4年前 , 342F
原作者沒意見,我也沒意見
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10/07 13:11, 4年前 , 343F
蹭女權熱度講幹話
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