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蔡英文：讓台灣成為一個尊重人權、多元包容的國家

[ politics ]18 留言, 推噓總分: +7

作者: kevinjl - 發表於 2011/04/20 21:30(13年前)

7^F推semicoma:那些人有被唾棄啊最好是這類人被唾棄光108.21.74.2 04/21 08:21

8^F→semicoma:然後兩大黨用政策來對決108.21.74.2 04/21 08:22

9^F→semicoma:至於你要說有些人還是跟著起舞ㄟ...那些108.21.74.2 04/21 08:22

10^F→semicoma:人起不起舞也不會投給不同顏色的可略過108.21.74.2 04/21 08:23

14^F推semicoma:會因此就認為馬英九心虛的人你跟他們計108.21.74.2 04/21 09:51

15^F→semicoma:較幹嘛? 他們會因此投馬英九嗎?108.21.74.2 04/21 09:51

Re: [新聞] 蔡英文：18歲就該有投票權

[ politics ]57 留言, 推噓總分: +8

作者: sealoe - 發表於 2011/04/20 19:20(13年前)

5^F推semicoma:18歲的年輕人不是座孤島他們是會和其他108.21.74.2 04/20 21:59

6^F→semicoma:人思想交流的如果上一批18歲投票者後來108.21.74.2 04/20 22:00

7^F→semicoma:嚐到苦果這樣的經驗會在社會中傳遞給下108.21.74.2 04/20 22:00

8^F推semicoma:一批18歲投票者讓他們提早正視公民社會108.21.74.2 04/20 22:04

9^F→semicoma:的權利/責任不然我實在想不到18歲不行108.21.74.2 04/20 22:05

10^F→semicoma:的話怎20歲的那一刻剛過就突然能負責了108.21.74.2 04/20 22:06

[新聞] 蔡英文：18歲就該有投票權

[ politics ]129 留言, 推噓總分: +7

作者: yayaya0805 - 發表於 2011/04/19 20:15(13年前)

98^F推semicoma:18歲太年輕了我覺得要18歲7個月又3天108.21.74.2 04/19 22:03

99^F→semicoma:美國又不是整個國家都18歲就外出工作現108.21.74.2 04/19 22:05

100^F→semicoma:況就是啃老族或跟父母親住的一堆美國目108.21.74.2 04/19 22:05

101^F→semicoma:前不知道是變soft還是經濟不景氣年輕人108.21.74.2 04/19 22:05

102^F→semicoma:相對沒以前那種獨立精神了要講18歲工作108.21.74.2 04/19 22:06

103^F→semicoma:台灣是沒有嗎? @@a108.21.74.2 04/19 22:07

107^F推semicoma:我想應該是讓18歲的年輕人有足夠的公民成108.21.74.2 04/19 22:50

108^F→semicoma:熟度去努力而不是把年齡往上修吧?108.21.74.2 04/19 22:50

109^F→semicoma:不過這又是個大工程了 = =108.21.74.2 04/19 22:51

116^F推semicoma:提個觀點由於各種制度都有其成本在而民108.21.74.2 04/20 11:25

117^F→semicoma:主的成本除了低效率另就是選民自己承擔108.21.74.2 04/20 11:26

118^F→semicoma:後果我有個想法是從未成年->準公民->公108.21.74.2 04/20 11:26

119^F→semicoma:民是否需要實習的時間? 比如投票年齡下108.21.74.2 04/20 11:27

120^F→semicoma:修到18歲類似18~20歲這兩年當實習並做108.21.74.2 04/20 11:27

121^F→semicoma:為民主社會的一個必要成本?108.21.74.2 04/20 11:28

Re: [新聞]中油調漲無明確理由　藍委批：機制有問題！

[ politics ]6 留言, 推噓總分: +1

作者: semicoma - 發表於 2011/04/17 14:14(13年前)

6^F→semicoma:我懂了謝謝shakalaka大108.21.74.2 04/17 23:58

Re: [新聞]中油調漲無明確理由　藍委批：機制有問題！

[ politics ]18 留言, 推噓總分: +3

作者: ask1234 - 發表於 2011/04/17 12:16(13年前)

14^F推semicoma:觀點同樓上仍然是使用者付費要轉價給消108.21.74.2 04/17 14:07

15^F→semicoma:費者前提是你要是那消費者才會被轉嫁108.21.74.2 04/17 14:07

Re: [新聞]中油調漲無明確理由　藍委批：機制有問題！

[ politics ]42 留言, 推噓總分: +8

作者: sealoe - 發表於 2011/04/15 18:01(13年前)

28^F推semicoma:我幾乎用不到汽油也不想拿稅金去補貼大108.21.74.2 04/16 09:00

29^F→semicoma:企業或開車燒汽油的其他人108.21.74.2 04/16 09:01

37^F推semicoma:其實哪個想法都沒錯啦但是依使用者付費108.21.74.2 04/16 22:05

38^F→semicoma:的原則我因為很少用汽油不會想幫他們付108.21.74.2 04/16 22:05

39^F→semicoma:擔這些而像前面板友推文說的錢都是進國108.21.74.2 04/16 22:06

40^F→semicoma:庫那麼是透過稅金還是漲油價進國庫就只108.21.74.2 04/16 22:07

41^F→semicoma:是過程差異了基於這樣的思維就算將來我108.21.74.2 04/16 22:07

42^F→semicoma:變燒汽油大戶仍然支持使用者付費的原則108.21.74.2 04/16 22:07

Re: [爆卦] 網友質疑資金紅十字會長:批教育出問題

[ politics ]53 留言, 推噓總分: +10

作者: imagesimpact - 發表於 2011/04/12 00:11(13年前)

11^F推semicoma:民進黨的做法是收到一定額度就關閉帳戶嗎108.21.74.2 04/12 05:30

12^F→semicoma:不然要怎麼一次捐? 要確保的是專款專用也108.21.74.2 04/12 05:31

13^F→semicoma:就夠了吧? 追究有沒一次捐的重點是?108.21.74.2 04/12 05:32

14^F→semicoma:而且要怎麼確定民進黨收到捐款絕對不會108.21.74.2 04/12 05:33

15^F→semicoma:有你說的這些問題? @@a108.21.74.2 04/12 05:33

26^F推semicoma:基本上只要專款專用這根本不是問題不是108.21.74.2 04/13 01:16

27^F→semicoma:問題的話就不需要想方設法去"解決"108.21.74.2 04/13 01:16

31^F→semicoma:看情況吧? 賑災帳戶是大量現金湧入然後湧108.21.74.2 04/13 13:52

32^F→semicoma:出應該不至於影響銀行的銀根另個人帳108.21.74.2 04/13 13:52

33^F→semicoma:(另個人帳這部分請忽略我忘記要說啥了)108.21.74.2 04/13 13:53

49^F推semicoma:或許這種海外賑災的專款比較可能政府來108.21.74.2 04/14 06:09

50^F→semicoma:做不然很多公益事業現成的組織架構就在108.21.74.2 04/14 06:10

51^F→semicoma:那了政府插一腳進來絕對不會比較好108.21.74.2 04/14 06:10

Re: [閒聊] 評dpp總統初選政見會許信良篇

[ politics ]59 留言, 推噓總分: +12

作者: william2001 - 發表於 2011/04/10 22:10(13年前)

1^F→semicoma:請教一個問題過去愛不愛台灣不是個議題108.21.74.2 04/10 22:40

2^F→semicoma:直到DPP拉出來講才成為全民運動連KMT也108.21.74.2 04/10 22:40

3^F→semicoma:接收成為自己的資產 / 而在近年來說自己108.21.74.2 04/10 22:41

4^F→semicoma:是台灣人而不是中國人的比例也步步攀升108.21.74.2 04/10 22:42

5^F→semicoma:這樣的數據怎麼造成的? 外省老一代過世?108.21.74.2 04/10 22:43

6^F→semicoma:"愛台灣"議題有效發酵? 還是其他原因?108.21.74.2 04/10 22:44

7^F→semicoma:以我自己的觀察(意思是樣本數有限)身邊親108.21.74.2 04/10 22:46

8^F→semicoma:人有曾是孫立人底下少將這樣的家族屬性108.21.74.2 04/10 22:47

10^F→semicoma:是中~深藍但近年來也漸漸以"我是台灣人"108.21.74.2 04/10 22:48

11^F→semicoma:取代過去的"我是中國人" 和解?108.21.74.2 04/10 22:49

12^F→semicoma: 何108.21.74.2 04/10 22:49

13^F→semicoma:但這口號在這島上發酵是事實啊我想探討108.21.74.2 04/10 22:49

14^F→semicoma:的是這部分畢竟連KMT都接收了這樣的概念108.21.74.2 04/10 22:50

15^F→semicoma:來對抗DPP 削弱DPP喊"愛台灣"的力道108.21.74.2 04/10 22:50

16^F→semicoma:要說喊完投票完就船過水無痕說服不了我108.21.74.2 04/10 22:51

19^F→semicoma:我們在講的不是同件事108.21.74.2 04/10 22:56

20^F→semicoma:有口號沒實際作為支撐會消耗口號信度108.21.74.2 04/10 22:57

21^F→semicoma:這大家都知道所以先跳過這吧我好奇的是108.21.74.2 04/10 22:58

22^F→semicoma:何以說自己是台灣人不是中國人的比例逐年108.21.74.2 04/10 22:58

23^F→semicoma:上升? 就算KMT執政還是來到新高? 代表人108.21.74.2 04/10 22:58

24^F→semicoma:民選KMT的同時但仍然不再以中國人自居108.21.74.2 04/10 22:59

25^F→semicoma:而是認為自己是台灣人這部分何解?108.21.74.2 04/10 22:59

27^F推semicoma:喔對這部分我預設了108.21.74.2 04/10 23:05

28^F→semicoma:那麼依你的看法是怎樣造成這種民調結果?108.21.74.2 04/10 23:06

33^F推semicoma:我還是想要試著解釋這樣的現象這跟g大如108.21.74.2 04/10 23:13

34^F→semicoma:何看自己的身分認同或者其他人有沒被操108.21.74.2 04/10 23:14

35^F→semicoma:弄是兩回事就算真被操弄也仍然是種現象108.21.74.2 04/10 23:14

36^F→semicoma:那就如實解釋出來一如現在解釋納粹一樣108.21.74.2 04/10 23:16

38^F推semicoma:我的意思是愛台灣原本是DPP喊的選民選108.21.74.2 04/11 00:03

39^F推semicoma:KMT代表相對多數不被這口號影響108.21.74.2 04/11 00:04

40^F→semicoma:不管姓夏還是姓巧遇到的身分認同都不是108.21.74.2 04/11 00:06

41^F→semicoma:台灣/中國啊好像還是說不通 :P108.21.74.2 04/11 00:07

42^F推semicoma:我沒要把這東西炒成什麼全民議題就只是108.21.74.2 04/12 03:11

43^F→semicoma:討論看看一堆社會學論文不也不是一般民108.21.74.2 04/12 03:11

44^F→semicoma:眾關心的議題? 還是說提這個會自動被打為108.21.74.2 04/12 03:12

45^F→semicoma:綠色? 至少我提這問題只是想討論討論跟108.21.74.2 04/12 03:12

46^F→semicoma:政治立場沒任何關聯更何況我也不是綠的108.21.74.2 04/12 03:13

47^F→semicoma:你在那邊扯什麼關起門來很爽我聽起來很108.21.74.2 04/12 03:13

48^F→semicoma:刺耳根本就先入為主了 = =108.21.74.2 04/12 03:14

[閒聊] 評dpp總統初選政見會蘇貞昌篇

[ politics ]5 留言, 推噓總分: +1

作者: oodh - 發表於 2011/04/10 04:28(13年前)

3^F推semicoma:"另一群人就像世界末日"比較像是歷史包袱108.21.74.2 04/10 22:36

4^F→semicoma:我是傾向很多深綠現在急著追究的所謂的"108.21.74.2 04/10 22:37

5^F→semicoma:歷史真相" 其實可以考慮交給有公信力的史108.21.74.2 04/10 22:37

6^F→semicoma:家這些並不急於一時的發生過的事情總會108.21.74.2 04/10 22:38

7^F→semicoma:留下痕跡好壞評價想躲也躲不掉108.21.74.2 04/10 22:38

Re: [閒聊] 看民調治國與公民投票

[ politics ]36 留言, 推噓總分: +4

作者: sealoe - 發表於 2011/04/09 11:30(13年前)

20^F推semicoma:公投的費時耗力可以用科技改善108.21.74.2 04/10 01:26

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