Re: [問題] 自古傳武兵擊可能無法實戰?

看板Warfare作者 (媽寶地狗)時間3月前 (2024/02/17 18:18), 編輯推噓2(2010)
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在1544年的塞雷索萊里戰役 ,法軍元帥呂蒙克跟手下說了這樣一段話: Gentlemen, it may be there are not many here who have ever been in a Battel before, and therefore let me tell you, that if we take our Pikes by the hinder end, and right at the length of the Pike, we shall be defeated; for the Germans are more dextrous at this kind of fight than we are: but you must take your Pikes by the middle as the Swisse do, and run head-long to force and penetrate into the midst of them, and you shall see how confounded they will be。 這不證明德意志傭兵在point of pike 方面很利害嗎?你要取勝,只能靠push of pike。 ----- Sent from JPTT on my Xiaomi 22041219NY. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.136.232.29 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Warfare/M.1708165129.A.E5B.html

02/19 15:32, 3月前 , 1F
只能靠push of pike取勝(X)
02/19 15:32, 1F

02/19 15:32, 3月前 , 2F
盡可能先用其他方式取得優勢,再用push of pike收尾(
02/19 15:32, 2F

02/19 15:32, 3月前 , 3F
O)
02/19 15:32, 3F

02/19 15:44, 3月前 , 4F
如果是古典時代的戰爭,確實有需要用push of pike來
02/19 15:44, 4F

02/19 15:44, 3月前 , 5F
取勝,但是16世紀的戰爭有其他手段來打,不一定要用
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02/19 15:44, 3月前 , 6F
push of pike,因為這戰術很傷本,這批訓練有素或有
02/19 15:44, 6F

02/19 15:44, 3月前 , 7F
戰鬥經驗的部隊可能是你的家底,打完就沒了,要重新
02/19 15:44, 7F

02/19 15:44, 3月前 , 8F
招募也要看財力,所以大多打仗是根據偵查情報來進行
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02/19 15:44, 3月前 , 9F
用多兵種協同作戰和各種戰術運用來取勝,先前版主連
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02/19 15:44, 3月前 , 10F
載的亨利拳四郎傳可以看一下XD
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02/19 15:46, 3月前 , 11F
法國將軍這段演講是要鼓舞士氣,至於有沒有效不知道
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02/19 15:46, 3月前 , 12F
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