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Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]46 留言, 推噓總分: +4
作者: wedo - 發表於 2008/07/02 17:07(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:嗯,萬物即便沒有科學也會存在的118.165.159.205 07/02 17:39
2Fe1q3z9c7:科學只是認識的途徑,不是終極意義的神器118.165.159.205 07/02 17:39
11Fe1q3z9c7:那可以請問樓上萬物的起源是?118.165.159.205 07/02 18:43
12Fe1q3z9c7:如果你並不了解就亂批評,跟你口中的某人118.165.159.205 07/02 18:43
13Fe1q3z9c7:又有什麼區別?118.165.159.205 07/02 18:43
19Fe1q3z9c7:不考慮等於不存在……嗯……118.165.159.205 07/02 19:06
20Fe1q3z9c7:那我不考慮你存在你會消失嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 19:06
22Fe1q3z9c7:所以你的念力比我強多囉,你不考慮的118.165.159.205 07/02 19:08
23Fe1q3z9c7:就不存在118.165.159.205 07/02 19:08
24Fe1q3z9c7:我還辦不到呢,收不收徒弟啊118.165.159.205 07/02 19:08
30Fe1q3z9c7:這就是一種信仰=.=118.165.159.205 07/03 01:19
31Fe1q3z9c7:可靠的信仰118.165.159.205 07/03 01:19
32Fe1q3z9c7:不知道當科學破壞環境導致災難時,什麼叫118.165.159.205 07/03 01:20
33Fe1q3z9c7:可靠118.165.159.205 07/03 01:20
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]18 留言, 推噓總分: +3
作者: ccc73123 - 發表於 2008/07/02 15:55(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:「想像力比知識重要」118.165.159.205 07/02 11:21
2Fe1q3z9c7:我指的是想像力本身不用透過物質便能作用118.165.159.205 07/02 17:03
3Fe1q3z9c7:比較貼近「念力」118.165.159.205 07/02 17:03
5Fe1q3z9c7:物質科學和精神層面的東西畢竟有區別118.165.159.205 07/02 18:42
8Fe1q3z9c7:兩者是不同的,是誰混為一談?118.165.159.205 07/02 18:47
10Fe1q3z9c7:不是下面說無法驗證不能確定?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:40
13Fe1q3z9c7:他蠻慘的,被一堆傳統科學罵個臭頭118.165.159.205 07/03 03:09
14Fe1q3z9c7:可說完全泯滅科學良知的在打壓他118.165.159.205 07/03 03:09
15Fe1q3z9c7:目前的「科學」再怎樣都不能跳脫唯物框框118.165.159.205 07/03 03:09
16Fe1q3z9c7:這是可以肯定的118.165.159.205 07/03 03:09
17Fe1q3z9c7:因為心靈的東西太難重現118.165.159.205 07/03 03:10
18Fe1q3z9c7:訴諸物質又有準確度的問題,難上加難118.165.159.205 07/03 03:10
[新奇] 製造蟲洞的方法
[ paranormal ]62 留言, 推噓總分: +7
作者: e1q3z9c7 - 發表於 2008/07/02 11:07(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:只等我們偉大的知=行的Yenchin實現它了118.165.159.205 07/02 15:14
3Fe1q3z9c7:你以為宇宙怎麼產生的?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:34
5Fe1q3z9c7:哈哈哈,你確定?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:37
6Fe1q3z9c7:那不如你把大爆炸前的狀況簡易說明一下118.165.159.205 07/02 15:37
7Fe1q3z9c7:好讓我理解不用想像力怎麼創世的118.165.159.205 07/02 15:38
10Fe1q3z9c7:哪裡不同?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:41
12Fe1q3z9c7:對啊,你比我懂嘛118.165.159.205 07/02 15:42
13Fe1q3z9c7:我又沒知識,哪曉得那麼多118.165.159.205 07/02 15:49
35Fe1q3z9c7:所以這種「可能」只有宇宙能做人不能?118.165.159.205 07/02 16:59
36Fe1q3z9c7:你前篇可是大膽假設「不能」做喔118.165.159.205 07/02 17:00
37Fe1q3z9c7:我並不反對你後續的推文118.165.159.205 07/02 17:00
38Fe1q3z9c7:而是反覆強調,不苟同科學以自傲的態勢118.165.159.205 07/02 17:01
39Fe1q3z9c7:去一概推翻超自然解118.165.159.205 07/02 17:01
40Fe1q3z9c7:應該是以理性的態度辯證118.165.159.205 07/02 17:02
43Fe1q3z9c7:我懂了,趨近於零乾脆說成零比較快對吧118.165.159.205 07/02 17:10
44Fe1q3z9c7:真服了你118.165.159.205 07/02 17:10
45Fe1q3z9c7:趨近概念的發明人可能會哭哭118.165.159.205 07/02 17:11
49Fe1q3z9c7:對呀,我只知道可能≠不可能,多蠢118.165.159.205 07/02 17:38
51Fe1q3z9c7:那lim這個符號廢掉就好啦 等號很夠用了118.165.159.205 07/02 18:44
53Fe1q3z9c7:你學過有懂嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 18:48
54Fe1q3z9c7:趨近的過程忽略掉,直接把本來數學危機118.165.159.205 07/02 18:48
55Fe1q3z9c7:的東西定義成結論,跟一開始的相等不同吧118.165.159.205 07/02 18:48
57Fe1q3z9c7:所以你也承認不同了吧118.165.159.205 07/02 18:55
59Fe1q3z9c7:原來如此,lim等於=,我真得重修了118.165.159.205 07/02 19:00
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]82 留言, 推噓總分: +20
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/01 21:59(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:我很希望你能把做好的時光機借我看118.165.139.131 07/02 00:52
2Fe1q3z9c7:說不定你可以利用他來解開麥田圈之謎118.165.139.131 07/02 00:55
3Fe1q3z9c7:到底蟲洞要怎麼做咧?核融合要怎麼做咧?118.165.139.131 07/02 00:59
4Fe1q3z9c7:原po是知行合一的救世主,全世界靠你了!118.165.139.131 07/02 01:00
9Fe1q3z9c7:哪點問錯可否指教?118.165.128.171 07/02 07:42
10Fe1q3z9c7:原來在超自然版問問題還要對科學內行啊?118.165.128.171 07/02 07:43
11Fe1q3z9c7:相信就能辦到也得花時間的好嗎?c先生118.165.128.171 07/02 07:48
12Fe1q3z9c7:我是很好奇科學家到底跟多少星球的外星118.165.128.171 07/02 07:58
13Fe1q3z9c7:人聯繫過以排除麥田圈的外星可能118.165.128.171 07/02 07:59
25Fe1q3z9c7:你連製造蟲洞的可能都不知道?118.165.159.205 07/02 11:02
26Fe1q3z9c7:我指的核融合是發電用的,抱歉沒解釋清楚118.165.159.205 07/02 11:03
27Fe1q3z9c7:我並非護航文本,而是豪洨之權118.165.159.205 07/02 11:04
28Fe1q3z9c7:任何人有資格隨意唬爛!118.165.159.205 07/02 11:04
29Fe1q3z9c7:本來超自然就不是讓嚴肅科學玩耍的地方118.165.159.205 07/02 11:06
30Fe1q3z9c7:這種霸權式的侵佔是我最討厭的118.165.159.205 07/02 11:06
31Fe1q3z9c7:有些連科幻力都沒有的人就不那麼可愛了118.165.159.205 07/02 11:16
33Fe1q3z9c7:「想像力比知識重要」118.165.159.205 07/02 11:21
35Fe1q3z9c7:需不需要我解釋一下這是誰說的?118.165.159.205 07/02 11:21
36Fe1q3z9c7:人也很多,真正有用的人不多罷了118.165.159.205 07/02 11:22
38Fe1q3z9c7:樓上的……真心建議你請教咕狗老師=.=118.165.159.205 07/02 11:26
41Fe1q3z9c7:想像力便能帶來知識118.165.159.205 07/02 15:32
43Fe1q3z9c7:神棍沒有道德118.165.159.205 07/02 15:33
45Fe1q3z9c7:不能有想像力並吸取知識?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:33
46Fe1q3z9c7:的確,思考為主,知識為輔,本來如此118.165.159.205 07/02 15:34
47Fe1q3z9c7:主從關係要搞懂,才不會變書呆子118.165.159.205 07/02 15:34
50Fe1q3z9c7:我吃飯不能配小菜嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:35
52Fe1q3z9c7:你規定好嚴格118.165.159.205 07/02 15:35
53Fe1q3z9c7:那你是全知全能的嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:35
54Fe1q3z9c7:又怎能武斷的說我沒知識?如何推導?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:36
55Fe1q3z9c7:完全沒有知識的人只怕罕見吧,腦死?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:37
58Fe1q3z9c7:我從來沒說我科學內行118.165.159.205 07/02 15:38
59Fe1q3z9c7:這頂帽子留著您自個兒戴好嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:39
60Fe1q3z9c7:有知識一定要科學內行的才算嗎118.165.159.205 07/02 15:39
62Fe1q3z9c7:那所有學人文的都是白痴?118.165.159.205 07/02 15:40
64Fe1q3z9c7:你要能根據我的言論反駁我自會回你118.165.159.205 07/02 15:40
65Fe1q3z9c7:不然被外行批評還翻不了身可難看得很呢118.165.159.205 07/02 15:40
67Fe1q3z9c7:我偏愛自大,哈哈哈,你咬我118.165.159.205 07/02 15:41
69Fe1q3z9c7:我一向批評的都是「態度」而非科學事實118.165.159.205 07/02 15:42
70Fe1q3z9c7:你要弄清楚我的指涉對象再反過來批評我118.165.159.205 07/02 15:42
72Fe1q3z9c7:你啊118.165.159.205 07/02 15:43
73Fe1q3z9c7:推 ccc73123:你完全不明白這句話的意思118.165.159.205 07/02 15:44
76Fe1q3z9c7:所以超自然呢?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:19
79Fe1q3z9c7:嗯~也對118.165.159.205 07/03 02:11
80Fe1q3z9c7:但既然科學無法解釋,懂科學的人說一聲118.165.159.205 07/03 02:11
81Fe1q3z9c7:就得了,剩下的再多說也是無益吧118.165.159.205 07/03 02:11
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]6 留言, 推噓總分: +2
作者: ineis - 發表於 2008/07/01 01:05(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:正統的科學家當然如此,但許多人是打著118.165.135.23 07/01 01:20
2Fe1q3z9c7:科學的名號去貶斥非科學的臆測,我是針對118.165.135.23 07/01 01:21
3Fe1q3z9c7:這些人而言118.165.135.23 07/01 01:21
4Fe1q3z9c7:而通常這些人的言語對沒有使用科學語言者118.165.135.23 07/01 01:24
5Fe1q3z9c7:是十分不客氣且輕蔑的118.165.135.23 07/01 01:24
6Fe1q3z9c7:感謝你用心回覆118.165.135.23 07/01 01:25
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]25 留言, 推噓總分: +6
作者: jingweilin - 發表於 2008/06/30 23:47(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:如果外星人可以使用時空跳躍呢?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:01
2Fe1q3z9c7:甚至只是在他們家的電腦上遠距遙控?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:01
3Fe1q3z9c7:可別低估了他們的科技呀~118.165.143.101 07/01 00:01
4Fe1q3z9c7:當然,更不排除,他們根本就定居在這?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:02
5Fe1q3z9c7:甚至在我們之中?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:02
6Fe1q3z9c7:或者乾脆附身在某些人類身上?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:04
7Fe1q3z9c7:這樣一來也可以解釋為人為,真有趣~118.165.143.101 07/01 00:04
8Fe1q3z9c7:再回一個吧,金庸寫了九陽神功118.165.143.101 07/01 00:05
9Fe1q3z9c7:那為何沒人叫他親身練練看呢?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:07
12Fe1q3z9c7:有規定一定要把「現實」寫出來才能賺錢똠118.165.143.101 07/01 00:07
13Fe1q3z9c7:比不上也可以有存在的空間與價值啊118.165.143.101 07/01 00:08
14Fe1q3z9c7:況且又是誰規定現實一定比虛構有價值?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:08
15Fe1q3z9c7:難道「現實」不會是另一層面的「虛構」?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:09
16Fe1q3z9c7:就算古代人把太陽黑子想成黑鳥118.165.143.101 07/01 00:09
17Fe1q3z9c7:他們還是可以過日子啊,還很浪漫咧~118.165.143.101 07/01 00:10
18Fe1q3z9c7:相信你想相信的更甚相信大智者所言118.165.143.101 07/01 00:10
20Fe1q3z9c7:我也這麼認為~118.165.143.101 07/01 01:01
21Fe1q3z9c7:比數學更加直觀118.165.143.101 07/01 01:01
24Fe1q3z9c7:可能性不高,因為有太多找不到製造人118.165.139.131 07/02 00:54
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]51 留言, 推噓總分: +19
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/06/30 16:40(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:如果你真心不信的話,就一定能飛118.165.143.101 06/30 18:57
2Fe1q3z9c7:只是集體潛意識箝制住你的信仰觀點118.165.143.101 06/30 18:57
3Fe1q3z9c7:太根深蒂固,每個人大抵都是如此118.165.143.101 06/30 18:57
4Fe1q3z9c7:無論多大的「客觀現實」,到頭來都是信念118.165.143.101 06/30 19:00
5Fe1q3z9c7:使然,科學家不處理這背後的因素,哲學家118.165.143.101 06/30 19:00
6Fe1q3z9c7:才會118.165.143.101 06/30 19:00
7Fe1q3z9c7:如果超自然真能舉證那也不叫超自然了118.165.143.101 06/30 19:01
8Fe1q3z9c7:「超」字本身就蘊含著無法理解、難以想像118.165.143.101 06/30 19:02
9Fe1q3z9c7:不能找到與現有觀念相媒合途徑的概念118.165.143.101 06/30 19:03
10Fe1q3z9c7:也因此才引人入勝118.165.143.101 06/30 19:03
12Fe1q3z9c7:呵呵,哪天境界到了就會公開表演的118.165.143.101 06/30 19:12
13Fe1q3z9c7:理論科學中很多事也是尚未實踐的不是嗎?118.165.143.101 06/30 19:13
14Fe1q3z9c7:最重要的還是開闊的心呢118.165.143.101 06/30 19:14
15Fe1q3z9c7:對了,如果你持續的不相信,便無法見到118.165.143.101 06/30 19:30
16Fe1q3z9c7:我飛了,因為我們會走上兩條不同的路118.165.143.101 06/30 19:30
19Fe1q3z9c7:引力存在物質才能聚合,這是初始條件118.165.143.101 06/30 21:38
20Fe1q3z9c7:個別性的突破,要透過洞察與領悟118.165.143.101 06/30 21:39
21Fe1q3z9c7:http://0rz.tw/8b4lP 不是沒有的118.165.143.101 06/30 21:41
22Fe1q3z9c7:如果堅持不信,哪怕再你面前飛你都會118.165.143.101 06/30 21:42
23Fe1q3z9c7:視若無睹118.165.143.101 06/30 21:42
26Fe1q3z9c7:那哪一點有錯,可否指教?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:11
27Fe1q3z9c7:或者只是想為我鼓掌?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:13
28Fe1q3z9c7:而「瞭解」兩個字也太沉重了118.165.143.101 07/01 00:18
29Fe1q3z9c7:世上敢說自己了解科學的不知道有幾個118.165.143.101 07/01 00:19
30Fe1q3z9c7:話說回來,要說批判的話頂多是針對人118.165.143.101 07/01 00:24
31Fe1q3z9c7:要批判科學本體也是蠻詭異的概念118.165.143.101 07/01 00:24
33Fe1q3z9c7:既然你說我錯了那應該是你指出我的錯誤118.165.143.101 07/01 00:38
34Fe1q3z9c7:地球的形成不是由萬有引力而來的?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:39
35Fe1q3z9c7:原子和原子間沒有引力?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:43
37Fe1q3z9c7:對118.165.143.101 07/01 00:45
38Fe1q3z9c7:抱歉沒有實證,我單純就是想相信這點118.165.143.101 07/01 00:48
40Fe1q3z9c7:比從不相信的人美好多囉~118.165.139.131 07/01 09:37
43Fe1q3z9c7:條條大路通羅馬118.165.159.205 07/02 11:31
45Fe1q3z9c7:就有擺連結了118.165.159.205 07/02 11:32
46Fe1q3z9c7:不信者恆不信吧118.165.159.205 07/02 11:33
47Fe1q3z9c7:你知道萊特兄弟被笑得多慘嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 11:38
49Fe1q3z9c7:那個時代能做飛機的很神了118.165.159.205 07/02 15:43
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]4 留言, 推噓總分: +2
作者: rath - 發表於 2008/06/30 13:59(16年前)
4Fe1q3z9c7:嗯……有點偏,不過精神可佳118.165.159.205 07/03 02:13
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]64 留言, 推噓總分: +20
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/06/29 11:36(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:簡單說真相往往是沒有人能得知的吧118.165.139.138 06/29 12:44
2Fe1q3z9c7:無論不可知者或科學萬歲者118.165.139.138 06/29 12:44
3Fe1q3z9c7:所以任何猜測也都是一種信仰不是嗎?118.165.139.138 06/29 12:45
4Fe1q3z9c7:也只能等待科學再昌明點了118.165.139.138 06/29 12:46
8Fe1q3z9c7:超自然說法通常只是提供可能性而已118.165.143.101 06/30 18:47
9Fe1q3z9c7:對於過於篤定的那些神教主一般人也是笑笑118.165.143.101 06/30 18:48
10Fe1q3z9c7:我見過更多的是科學以自身立場大加嘲笑118.165.143.101 06/30 18:51
11Fe1q3z9c7:那些可能性,網路、雜誌,比比皆是118.165.143.101 06/30 18:51
12Fe1q3z9c7:是「以現有科學知識為後盾者」上面說錯118.165.143.101 06/30 18:52
13Fe1q3z9c7:老實說這種態度最令我反感118.165.143.101 06/30 18:52
14Fe1q3z9c7:舉世能解通廣義相對論和量子力學的有幾人118.165.143.101 06/30 18:55
15Fe1q3z9c7:而又能擔保不會出現更高等的學說去解釋?118.165.143.101 06/30 19:11
19Fe1q3z9c7:科學舉證也只是一種可能性,並非絕對118.165.143.101 06/30 22:55
20Fe1q3z9c7:如果能以這樣的態度討論才對吧118.165.143.101 06/30 22:56
21Fe1q3z9c7:至少我不曾見過超自然論嘲笑科學的118.165.143.101 06/30 23:11
22Fe1q3z9c7:反倒像是養子依附養母,卻被無情對待118.165.143.101 06/30 23:11
23Fe1q3z9c7:難道不是應該引導更甚於推翻嗎?118.165.143.101 06/30 23:12
24Fe1q3z9c7:當然若是解釋為未知的恐慌,就能了解到118.165.143.101 06/30 23:13
25Fe1q3z9c7:應該理性的科學論者為何如此情緒化了118.165.143.101 06/30 23:14
26Fe1q3z9c7:而一個孩子如此不得寵怎麼會不怨?118.165.143.101 06/30 23:54
29Fe1q3z9c7:嘲笑需要能力嗎?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:40
30Fe1q3z9c7:還是對沒能力的人能夠任意嘲笑?118.165.143.101 07/01 00:44
32Fe1q3z9c7:偽科學當然要被批判,但說麥田圈是外星118.165.143.101 07/01 00:58
33Fe1q3z9c7:人做的不算偽科學吧118.165.143.101 07/01 00:58
39Fe1q3z9c7:原文頗中肯,不覺得哪裡特別假118.165.139.131 07/01 09:35
40Fe1q3z9c7:況且真要說明那些是假的還得真費工夫118.165.139.131 07/01 09:40
41Fe1q3z9c7:何苦自虐?不信者恆不信吧118.165.139.131 07/01 09:40
42Fe1q3z9c7:如果每個講法都要舉證不累死?118.165.139.131 07/01 09:53
43Fe1q3z9c7:戳破者也得負起舉證之責吧118.165.139.131 07/01 09:53
44Fe1q3z9c7:否則豈不鱉笑龜無尾?118.165.139.131 07/01 10:21
61Fe1q3z9c7:相信閣下在物理版必能一展長才118.165.139.131 07/01 11:43
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]48 留言, 推噓總分: +5
作者: e1q3z9c7 - 發表於 2008/06/29 09:20(16年前)
4Fe1q3z9c7:簡單說,即便外星人不曾來過,買個ufo118.165.139.138 06/29 12:47
5Fe1q3z9c7:玩具也蠻賞心悅目的呀118.165.139.138 06/29 12:47
6Fe1q3z9c7:唬爛沒有罪呀,你可以看唬爛版,多歡樂啊118.165.139.138 06/29 12:47
7Fe1q3z9c7:不想知道真相有時候也是一種娛樂118.165.139.138 06/29 12:48
8Fe1q3z9c7:魔術被戳破就無聊了118.165.139.138 06/29 12:48
9Fe1q3z9c7:當然要是入迷甚至影響現實生活118.165.139.138 06/29 12:49
10Fe1q3z9c7:像吸毒那樣,那又是另一個課題了 :)118.165.139.138 06/29 12:50
22Fe1q3z9c7:是沒錯啦……不過凡事也有許多面相可解118.165.143.101 06/30 08:53
23Fe1q3z9c7:當然那些神棍是很討厭,但也有些師父是118.165.143.101 06/30 08:55
24Fe1q3z9c7:在默默行善的118.165.143.101 06/30 08:55
25Fe1q3z9c7:總是相對兩面,擇善固執吧118.165.143.101 06/30 08:56
27Fe1q3z9c7:其實想要釐清的是,究竟遭批評的,是當事118.165.143.101 06/30 12:04
28Fe1q3z9c7:人的惡形惡狀,還是根本只是對超自然不爽118.165.143.101 06/30 12:04
29Fe1q3z9c7:再拿某些騙子當擋箭牌?118.165.143.101 06/30 12:05
30Fe1q3z9c7:以至於牽連到一些根本沒有受害者的案子?118.165.143.101 06/30 12:09
37Fe1q3z9c7:我問過折湯匙的事,還不是被許多人批評118.165.143.101 06/30 18:54
38Fe1q3z9c7:也不懂在氣什麼,就是一種可能性也不接受118.165.143.101 06/30 18:54
39Fe1q3z9c7:讓我有種中世紀日心說、地圓論者的感覺118.165.143.101 06/30 18:56
43Fe1q3z9c7:就像摔角一樣,打假的也蠻好看的啊~118.165.143.101 06/30 22:56
46Fe1q3z9c7:所以偽科學是應該被抨擊的,但不應該牽連118.165.159.205 07/03 03:11
47Fe1q3z9c7:幻想成份居多的超自然解釋118.165.159.205 07/03 03:11