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[討論] 科學如何檢證超自然
[ paranormal ]27 留言, 推噓總分: +1
作者: ineis - 發表於 2008/07/06 03:03(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:我並未反對科學,只是厭惡科學對於超自然118.165.152.8 07/06 08:51
2Fe1q3z9c7:的打壓,或說有些人倚仗科學對其的不當ꤠ118.165.152.8 07/06 08:51
3Fe1q3z9c7:抨擊118.165.152.8 07/06 08:51
4Fe1q3z9c7:即便超自然的東西無法被一再檢驗118.165.152.8 07/06 08:52
5Fe1q3z9c7:難道科學是傾向一味排斥或是協助其建立學118.165.152.8 07/06 08:52
6Fe1q3z9c7:說?一貫思維都是針對「態度」!118.165.152.8 07/06 08:52
7Fe1q3z9c7:錯誤的科學觀當然是指有正確的存在而言118.165.152.8 07/06 08:53
8Fe1q3z9c7:如果沒有正確的東西做對照,錯誤的本質118.165.152.8 07/06 08:54
9Fe1q3z9c7:在同一時代不被認可,就不能說真的「錯」118.165.152.8 07/06 08:54
10Fe1q3z9c7:只能說認知還不到位,因為真實只能趨近!118.165.152.8 07/06 08:54
11Fe1q3z9c7:無法絕對被描述118.165.152.8 07/06 08:54
12Fe1q3z9c7:並非所有事都能被檢驗的一乾二淨118.165.152.8 07/06 08:55
13Fe1q3z9c7:鬼的存在毋庸置疑,但我們的水準就是無法118.165.152.8 07/06 08:55
14Fe1q3z9c7:檢驗,你能怎麼辦?118.165.152.8 07/06 08:55
15Fe1q3z9c7:這就是超自然啊,任何事都能被檢驗,這個118.165.152.8 07/06 08:56
16Fe1q3z9c7:版廢掉算了,幹麼一堆人在幻想118.165.152.8 07/06 08:56
17Fe1q3z9c7:科學凡事都要插一腳,令人不齒!118.165.152.8 07/06 08:56
18Fe1q3z9c7:明明自己無法進步到包山包海118.165.152.8 07/06 09:10
19Fe1q3z9c7:硬要以自身標準去強加在任何人身上118.165.152.8 07/06 09:11
20Fe1q3z9c7:當然,這是「人」的問題,科學本體當然118.165.152.8 07/06 09:12
21Fe1q3z9c7:不存在這種幼稚的麻煩118.165.152.8 07/06 09:12
22Fe1q3z9c7:古代巫術、現代科學、未來呢?眼光放遠點118.165.152.8 07/06 09:25
23Fe1q3z9c7:我們肉眼所見不過滄海一粟118.165.152.8 07/06 09:25
24Fe1q3z9c7:心跟物的地位交相輪轉,總有一天科學會봠118.165.152.8 07/06 09:26
25Fe1q3z9c7:踢到鐵板,要是科學家都如諸位般狹隘的話118.165.152.8 07/06 09:26
26Fe1q3z9c7:抱歉有點情緒化,原po請多見諒118.165.152.8 07/06 21:11
Re: [討論] 科學的定義
[ paranormal ]56 留言, 推噓總分: +7
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/06 02:01(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:我沒說吐槽等於剝奪自由,但背後的動機118.165.154.52 07/06 02:11
2Fe1q3z9c7:難道不是為了要將科學觸角無限延伸?118.165.154.52 07/06 02:11
3Fe1q3z9c7:以至於壓蓋過一切?118.165.154.52 07/06 02:11
4Fe1q3z9c7:最後純粹在表明非科學也有其價值118.165.154.52 07/06 02:12
5Fe1q3z9c7:不是只有科學才是一切118.165.154.52 07/06 02:12
6Fe1q3z9c7:而非科學也沒有必要非得接受科學檢驗118.165.154.52 07/06 02:13
7Fe1q3z9c7:他們自有體系與價值118.165.154.52 07/06 02:13
8Fe1q3z9c7:引用佛學作為我的思想背景,不一定要符合118.165.154.52 07/06 02:14
9Fe1q3z9c7:他的本義,當然本義為何也是各家不同118.165.154.52 07/06 02:14
14Fe1q3z9c7:佛學有著作權?佛祖的心胸如此狹隘?118.165.152.8 07/06 08:37
15Fe1q3z9c7:基礎的東西還用得著讓前人綁住嗎?118.165.152.8 07/06 08:37
16Fe1q3z9c7:我說人有兩個眼睛,還需要舉出例證?118.165.152.8 07/06 08:37
17Fe1q3z9c7:是盜取生物學家抑或人類學家的觀點?118.165.152.8 07/06 08:38
19Fe1q3z9c7:請問樓上能確知眼睛運作的過程嗎?118.165.152.8 07/06 11:48
20Fe1q3z9c7:光學、神經傳導?118.165.152.8 07/06 11:49
21Fe1q3z9c7:Y大說不定能發明世界第一雙機器義眼118.165.152.8 07/06 11:49
22Fe1q3z9c7:恭喜恭喜118.165.152.8 07/06 11:49
25Fe1q3z9c7:你說到重點了,所以我在闡述自己的看法118.165.152.8 07/06 12:01
26Fe1q3z9c7:也可以排除佛教中人的詮釋與束縛118.165.152.8 07/06 12:02
27Fe1q3z9c7:很高興你能表達我的想法118.165.152.8 07/06 12:02
31Fe1q3z9c7:我講到人有兩隻眼也是沾了現實經驗的光118.165.152.8 07/06 12:08
32Fe1q3z9c7:順帶提及而已118.165.152.8 07/06 12:09
33Fe1q3z9c7:沒有要拿佛學背書的意思118.165.152.8 07/06 12:09
34Fe1q3z9c7:如果我只提「臆測」,根本無法讓人理解的118.165.152.8 07/06 12:09
35Fe1q3z9c7:勢必要有橋樑不是嗎?私對公的118.165.152.8 07/06 12:09
38Fe1q3z9c7:車走橋,你要說橋與車不相干也行118.165.159.152 07/07 11:46
39Fe1q3z9c7:但無橋車便過不去118.165.159.152 07/07 11:46
40Fe1q3z9c7:我真的要像老師一樣每件事都用比喻你才118.165.159.152 07/07 11:46
41Fe1q3z9c7:聽得進去嗎?118.165.159.152 07/07 11:46
44Fe1q3z9c7:那我不用佛學好了,7到8,+1前返-1,118.165.138.88 07/08 12:55
45Fe1q3z9c7:你理解看看118.165.138.88 07/08 12:55
48Fe1q3z9c7:我的臆測和宣稱,又何須證據?118.165.135.117 07/09 18:35
49Fe1q3z9c7:願聽者聽就是了,誰規定非得玩科學那套?118.165.135.117 07/09 18:35
51Fe1q3z9c7:我原文都說「以為」和「臆測」了118.165.135.117 07/09 22:06
52Fe1q3z9c7:你還想怎樣?118.165.135.117 07/09 22:06
53Fe1q3z9c7:你到底是在討論還是亂打一通?118.165.135.117 07/09 22:06
54Fe1q3z9c7:你的宣稱比我還多耶118.165.135.117 07/09 22:14
Re: [討論] 所謂先驗與超驗
[ paranormal ]28 留言, 推噓總分: 0
作者: e1q3z9c7 - 發表於 2008/07/06 01:18(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:補充一下我對偽科學的觀點吧118.165.154.52 07/06 01:28
2Fe1q3z9c7:就是對於不可知的事物直接採取否認118.165.154.52 07/06 01:28
3Fe1q3z9c7:再旁敲側擊舉一堆無甚意義的科學證據118.165.154.52 07/06 01:29
4Fe1q3z9c7:去對自己內心的恐懼做出武裝的態度118.165.154.52 07/06 01:29
6Fe1q3z9c7:自然神非宗教?118.165.154.52 07/06 01:36
7Fe1q3z9c7:樓上的見解真非凡118.165.154.52 07/06 01:37
8Fe1q3z9c7:你是說正統佛教徒全部鬼扯囉?118.165.154.52 07/06 01:38
13Fe1q3z9c7:"religious"請問愛因斯坦為何用此字?118.165.154.52 07/06 01:43
15Fe1q3z9c7:他自己就對自己信仰的宗教做出定義118.165.154.52 07/06 01:43
16Fe1q3z9c7:我不必錦上添花了吧118.165.154.52 07/06 01:43
17Fe1q3z9c7:真正宗教是沒有絕對定義的,但信仰者總有118.165.154.52 07/06 01:45
19Fe1q3z9c7:自由權說:「我信仰某某『宗教』。」118.165.154.52 07/06 01:45
21Fe1q3z9c7:由信仰者自行定義,謝謝118.165.154.52 07/06 01:45
22Fe1q3z9c7:他所說「鬼扯」二字除了否認恕我愚昧118.165.154.52 07/06 01:46
23Fe1q3z9c7:找不出其他意涵118.165.154.52 07/06 01:46
24Fe1q3z9c7:i大你比較行,能幫我解讀c的指涉嗎?118.165.154.52 07/06 01:47
27Fe1q3z9c7:好玄喔@@118.165.154.52 07/06 01:54
Re: [討論] 所謂先驗與超驗
[ paranormal ]69 留言, 推噓總分: +6
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/06 00:43(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:www.ikepu.com/book/zjq/research_13.htm118.165.154.52 07/06 01:10
2Fe1q3z9c7:可以google到的東西就別問了好唄118.165.154.52 07/06 01:10
4Fe1q3z9c7:麻煩樓上提出證誤好嗎,謾罵意義何在?118.165.154.52 07/06 01:19
5Fe1q3z9c7:只是想顯示自己對於辱人字彙的通曉嗎?118.165.154.52 07/06 01:20
8Fe1q3z9c7:那您有更好的數據可以證明我錯?118.165.154.52 07/06 02:20
9Fe1q3z9c7:以子體來看母體結果差不多的118.165.154.52 07/06 02:21
10Fe1q3z9c7:特別是問題本身的充分代表性118.165.154.52 07/06 02:21
11Fe1q3z9c7:如果您能提出數據來證明科學家信仰者較多118.165.154.52 07/06 02:22
12Fe1q3z9c7:我便向你道歉兼心服口服118.165.154.52 07/06 02:22
13Fe1q3z9c7:樓樓上:宗教信仰118.165.154.52 07/06 02:22
23Fe1q3z9c7:既然雲腳長毛就有很大可能刮颱風118.165.152.8 07/06 08:58
24Fe1q3z9c7:多數不信神或永生,那就很有可能不信宗教118.165.152.8 07/06 08:59
25Fe1q3z9c7:直接提證誤吧,這麼直觀的東西還要證明118.165.152.8 07/06 08:59
26Fe1q3z9c7:太囉唆了118.165.152.8 07/06 09:00
28Fe1q3z9c7:不是只討論宗教嗎?有相交可以肯定118.165.152.8 07/06 11:40
29Fe1q3z9c7:還是所有宗教的儀式、神蹟全都是騙人的?118.165.152.8 07/06 11:40
32Fe1q3z9c7:我並不贊同宗教本體,談論重點在於科學家118.165.152.8 07/06 11:41
33Fe1q3z9c7:信仰宗教這件事,請將釐清對象118.165.152.8 07/06 11:41
35Fe1q3z9c7:佛教的涅槃、道教所謂成仙118.165.152.8 07/06 11:50
36Fe1q3z9c7:基督教所謂聖痕等等,一個個要說真的很累118.165.152.8 07/06 11:51
37Fe1q3z9c7:可不可以真切的去提出質疑別再玩小孩子遊118.165.152.8 07/06 11:51
38Fe1q3z9c7:戲118.165.152.8 07/06 11:51
40Fe1q3z9c7:我並不苟同信仰宗教者的很多行為118.165.152.8 07/06 12:00
41Fe1q3z9c7:但現在討論的重點非他們的對錯118.165.152.8 07/06 12:00
42Fe1q3z9c7:而是科學事實,也就是科學家的信仰現象118.165.152.8 07/06 12:01
45Fe1q3z9c7:曾幾何時說是子集合?有部份相交也不行?118.165.152.8 07/06 12:06
46Fe1q3z9c7:超自然主體本來就會擴及現實,不然不可能118.165.152.8 07/06 12:06
47Fe1q3z9c7:有人「看到」、「經歷」118.165.152.8 07/06 12:06
48Fe1q3z9c7:你到底什麼時候要證明科學家信仰的錯誤?118.165.152.8 07/06 12:07
49Fe1q3z9c7:還是繼續抓些毫不相干的事當我的絆腳石?118.165.152.8 07/06 12:07
50Fe1q3z9c7:同時當你自己的絆腳石?118.165.152.8 07/06 12:07
51Fe1q3z9c7:罷了罷了,事實心照不宣,意氣之爭無益矣118.165.152.8 07/06 12:33
53Fe1q3z9c7:已經解釋過?118.165.135.117 07/09 18:35
54Fe1q3z9c7:你該不會認為觀落陰、起乩、顯靈全都是118.165.135.117 07/09 18:52
55Fe1q3z9c7:假的吧,這些還要我說明你會不會有點盧?118.165.135.117 07/09 18:53
56Fe1q3z9c7:換你囉?這樣還不夠我說了,上飄版,靈版118.165.135.117 07/09 20:58
57Fe1q3z9c7:你會得到許許多多的說明的118.165.135.117 07/09 20:58
59Fe1q3z9c7:但耶穌在水上走?讓瞎的人看見?118.165.135.117 07/09 22:04
60Fe1q3z9c7:全都是假的囉?118.165.135.117 07/09 22:04
61Fe1q3z9c7:這些應該是常識吧,你在跳還我在跳?118.165.135.117 07/09 22:04
62Fe1q3z9c7:所以,到底什麼時候要說明科學家的信仰118.165.135.117 07/09 22:07
63Fe1q3z9c7:我等著咧118.165.135.117 07/09 22:07
64Fe1q3z9c7:不然上飄版嗆一聲也可以118.165.135.117 07/09 22:08
65Fe1q3z9c7:還是告訴我google上哪裡找到那些公式解?118.165.135.117 07/09 22:09
66Fe1q3z9c7:算算還真不少未清的東西耶118.165.135.117 07/09 22:09
67Fe1q3z9c7:所以平心客觀而論你要不要指出我哪點跳?118.165.135.117 07/09 22:12
Re: [討論] 科學的定義
[ paranormal ]19 留言, 推噓總分: +5
作者: jingweilin - 發表於 2008/07/05 19:19(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:不同的主張會被接受但不接受相互嘲諷118.165.154.52 07/05 19:58
2Fe1q3z9c7:啊 也沒什麼不行啦,頂多戰來戰去而已118.165.154.52 07/05 19:59
3Fe1q3z9c7:相信還要加上證明,我相信了,證明呢?118.165.154.52 07/05 20:00
4Fe1q3z9c7:已經做到的事再做一次不難吧?118.165.154.52 07/05 20:00
5Fe1q3z9c7:我會給你滿滿的信念加持,放心!118.165.154.52 07/05 20:06
7Fe1q3z9c7:放心,我命還很長,希望你也是118.165.154.52 07/05 23:07
13Fe1q3z9c7:我還做不到的事是無法證明的118.165.154.52 07/06 00:50
14Fe1q3z9c7:請問那麥田圈的名稱是?118.165.154.52 07/06 00:50
15Fe1q3z9c7:種植何種作物為主呢?118.165.154.52 07/06 00:51
16Fe1q3z9c7:我一直很相信喔!!118.165.154.52 07/06 00:51
17Fe1q3z9c7:可否大致描述一下會是什麼形狀呢?118.165.154.52 07/06 00:56
18Fe1q3z9c7:能遇到這麼神奇的人是我三生有幸^^118.165.154.52 07/06 00:57
Re: [討論] 科學的定義
[ paranormal ]5 留言, 推噓總分: +3
作者: ccc73123 - 發表於 2008/07/05 16:53(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:很多事真的要等親身見識過才會相信……118.165.154.52 07/05 18:10
2Fe1q3z9c7:感官到最後會混用,地面振動根本不是單聽118.165.154.52 07/05 18:12
3Fe1q3z9c7:覺就辦得到的,不過我也不清楚到底如何就118.165.154.52 07/05 18:12
4Fe1q3z9c7:是了118.165.154.52 07/05 18:12
5Fe1q3z9c7:大腦的未知領域太多了,不是嗎?118.165.154.52 07/05 18:37
Re: [討論] 科學的定義
[ paranormal ]1 留言, 推噓總分: +1
作者: rath - 發表於 2008/07/05 13:00(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:夢是很深很深的東西……118.165.154.52 07/05 13:36
[討論] 科學的定義
[ paranormal ]106 留言, 推噓總分: +9
作者: e1q3z9c7 - 發表於 2008/07/05 09:11(16年前)
2Fe1q3z9c7:何來「欺」?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:45
4Fe1q3z9c7:所以請先把時光機做出來,最好到中世紀喔118.165.154.52 07/05 09:47
6Fe1q3z9c7:你不是信仰科學嗎?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:49
7Fe1q3z9c7:科學萬能,能夠超越一切?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:49
8Fe1q3z9c7:甚至毫不尊重他人的信仰自由?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:49
9Fe1q3z9c7:我有說「現在」能飛嗎?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:50
10Fe1q3z9c7:難道你50歲能當董事長,我叫你調給我118.165.154.52 07/05 09:50
11Fe1q3z9c7:一億也行嗎?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:50
12Fe1q3z9c7:現在?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:50
16Fe1q3z9c7:可以飛給你看,不過等我幾年時間118.165.154.52 07/05 09:53
17Fe1q3z9c7:你不相信我也沒辦法118.165.154.52 07/05 09:53
18Fe1q3z9c7:bbs不給人嘴砲請問要做什麼?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:54
20Fe1q3z9c7:難道當科學論文發表版嗎?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:55
21Fe1q3z9c7:那又如何,總有人成功有人失敗118.165.154.52 07/05 09:55
23Fe1q3z9c7:朝目標努力邁進就是了118.165.154.52 07/05 09:55
24Fe1q3z9c7:那每個人在討論夢想和願景都在嘴砲囉?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:56
26Fe1q3z9c7:說起來嘴砲也沒什麼不好的嘛118.165.154.52 07/05 09:56
27Fe1q3z9c7:哪一點是偽科學,麻煩舉證118.165.154.52 07/05 09:56
29Fe1q3z9c7:那你跟我一樣只是「想」而已呀118.165.154.52 07/05 09:58
30Fe1q3z9c7:大家都差不多?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:58
31Fe1q3z9c7:鱉笑龜無尾?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:59
35Fe1q3z9c7:好玩呀,呵呵118.165.154.52 07/05 14:14
36Fe1q3z9c7:有看過《棋王》嗎?以一敵九好氣魄118.165.154.52 07/05 14:16
40Fe1q3z9c7:喔喔,樓上可否曾在道版出沒?118.165.154.52 07/05 21:38
41Fe1q3z9c7:呵呵,都說唯識了,唯我自己的識囉118.165.154.52 07/05 21:38
49Fe1q3z9c7:如果唯一般的識,那我為何不在佛版靈版說118.165.154.52 07/05 23:05
50Fe1q3z9c7:廢言?比起只會跟著人家屁股後面批評的好118.165.154.52 07/05 23:05
51Fe1q3z9c7:多了吧118.165.154.52 07/05 23:05
52Fe1q3z9c7:神經跟神通,說得好,哪天跨過去會知會你118.165.154.52 07/05 23:06
53Fe1q3z9c7:每個人都有成見,世界難安定118.165.154.52 07/05 23:08
57Fe1q3z9c7:所以人人都要成佛才能在佛版發言?118.165.154.52 07/05 23:29
58Fe1q3z9c7:那你又會什麼超自然把戲才在這說話?118.165.154.52 07/05 23:30
59Fe1q3z9c7:無意義廢言?那你說兩句有意義的來聽聽?118.165.154.52 07/05 23:30
60Fe1q3z9c7:好像你的發言全是依附在我之下的耶118.165.154.52 07/05 23:31
61Fe1q3z9c7:要是真沒意義你又何必回?118.165.154.52 07/05 23:31
62Fe1q3z9c7:我以前在道版看過i大還以為是寬懷明理人118.165.154.52 07/05 23:33
64Fe1q3z9c7:人會變的吧~118.165.154.52 07/05 23:33
65Fe1q3z9c7:那既然你說不出有意義的話,只好讓我這118.165.154.52 07/05 23:34
66Fe1q3z9c7:廢言擺在你頭上啦118.165.154.52 07/05 23:34
69Fe1q3z9c7:可否解釋何謂「毫無關聯」?118.165.154.52 07/05 23:35
70Fe1q3z9c7:所以說金庸一定會乾坤大挪移囉?118.165.154.52 07/05 23:35
75Fe1q3z9c7:廢言好呀~哈哈哈哈哈哈118.165.154.52 07/05 23:38
77Fe1q3z9c7:扯開話題讚啊~哦吼吼吼吼吼~118.165.154.52 07/05 23:39
78Fe1q3z9c7:不好意思讓你這麼稱讚我捏~~118.165.154.52 07/05 23:39
79Fe1q3z9c7:肛溫蛤~~118.165.154.52 07/05 23:39
80Fe1q3z9c7:還有沒有?118.165.154.52 07/05 23:40
81Fe1q3z9c7:多說幾句嘛~118.165.154.52 07/05 23:40
83Fe1q3z9c7:能把一堆有的沒的講得那麼溜你也很行啊118.165.154.52 07/05 23:40
84Fe1q3z9c7:比我還會扯118.165.154.52 07/05 23:41
87Fe1q3z9c7:850篇也挺有趣的118.165.154.52 07/05 23:43
88Fe1q3z9c7:比跳針我實在甘拜下風118.165.154.52 07/05 23:47
89Fe1q3z9c7:話說回來,我還沒辦法真的不相信地心引力118.165.154.52 07/05 23:53
90Fe1q3z9c7:就跟你沒辦法停止批評我一樣慘吧,呵118.165.154.52 07/05 23:54
99Fe1q3z9c7:嗯……大不了不用這兩個字囉,我有我的路118.165.154.52 07/06 00:53
100Fe1q3z9c7:《秘密》能給予人希望與信心,並無不妥118.165.154.52 07/06 00:57
101Fe1q3z9c7:即便是安慰劑也有其功效的118.165.154.52 07/06 00:58
102Fe1q3z9c7:我覺得您應該更有自信點,未嘗不能開創局118.165.154.52 07/06 01:56
103Fe1q3z9c7:面,突破前人窠臼118.165.154.52 07/06 01:56
Re: [討論] 所謂先驗與超驗
[ paranormal ]30 留言, 推噓總分: +8
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/05 00:17(16年前)
6Fe1q3z9c7:多數科學家排斥非理性的宗教,這是事實118.165.154.52 07/05 09:12
7Fe1q3z9c7:唯有真正進入一個層次的人才能兼融並畜118.165.154.52 07/05 09:13
8Fe1q3z9c7:騙人的東西是以超自然謀私利118.165.154.52 07/05 09:14
9Fe1q3z9c7:偽科學就是錯誤的科學觀點118.165.154.52 07/05 09:14
10Fe1q3z9c7:我同意你最後一段的說法118.165.154.52 07/05 09:14
11Fe1q3z9c7:但版上很顯然並未有這種人,又為何嘲諷?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:15
12Fe1q3z9c7:第一行多數是我的臆測,「許多」是真的118.165.154.52 07/05 09:21
14Fe1q3z9c7:達文西、Jules Verne118.165.154.52 07/05 09:38
15Fe1q3z9c7:一樓的觀點反過來也成立118.165.154.52 07/05 09:38
16Fe1q3z9c7:請問d大,關於零點能量的研究進度……118.165.154.52 07/05 09:43
18Fe1q3z9c7:很抱歉,我做不到,你呢?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:48
21Fe1q3z9c7:那你會一輩子都當阿宅嗎?118.165.154.52 07/05 09:51
22Fe1q3z9c7:會嘴砲總比連嘴砲都不會的人好多了118.165.154.52 07/05 09:52
23Fe1q3z9c7:你還是多回我的文吧118.165.154.52 07/05 09:52
26Fe1q3z9c7:你先去高速公路上慢跑比較實際點118.165.154.52 07/05 09:54
27Fe1q3z9c7:補充一下:騙人是以超自然為題詐取私利118.165.154.52 07/05 13:53
28Fe1q3z9c7:當然若原po認為跟超自然掛勾就是騙人118.165.154.52 07/05 14:15
29Fe1q3z9c7:我無法改變你的成見118.165.154.52 07/05 14:15
Re: [討論] 所謂先驗與超驗
[ paranormal ]27 留言, 推噓總分: +1
作者: ccc73123 - 發表於 2008/07/04 09:25(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:確認的東西或許是集體錯覺?118.165.142.87 07/04 09:43
2Fe1q3z9c7:況且我的世界非得要受「客觀」、「物理」118.165.142.87 07/04 09:43
3Fe1q3z9c7:強制制約到永遠?118.165.142.87 07/04 09:44
4Fe1q3z9c7:再重申一次,我反對騙人的東西118.165.142.87 07/04 09:44
5Fe1q3z9c7:但我既未騙人,只是想突破規則,這不道德118.165.142.87 07/04 09:44
6Fe1q3z9c7:嗎?118.165.142.87 07/04 09:44
8Fe1q3z9c7:論調相同難道不是種自由?118.165.142.87 07/04 09:46
9Fe1q3z9c7:他們一時無法建立更好的說法118.165.142.87 07/04 09:46
10Fe1q3z9c7:如同科學剛萌芽,如果教廷到今日仍強勢118.165.142.87 07/04 09:47
11Fe1q3z9c7:只怕科學不用發展了118.165.142.87 07/04 09:47
13Fe1q3z9c7:我的確反對偽科學118.165.142.87 07/04 09:47
15Fe1q3z9c7:這點我與你看法相同118.165.142.87 07/04 09:47
16Fe1q3z9c7:是的118.165.142.87 07/04 09:47
17Fe1q3z9c7:多半譁眾取寵罷了,沒有真知灼見118.165.142.87 07/04 09:48
18Fe1q3z9c7:但我贊同的是他們背後的東西:超自然118.165.142.87 07/04 09:49
19Fe1q3z9c7:而非像傳統科學家那樣純粹嗤之以鼻118.165.142.87 07/04 09:49
20Fe1q3z9c7:試圖以哲學觀點闡明的話會更有趣,不過118.165.142.87 07/04 09:50
21Fe1q3z9c7:更難讓人理解orz118.165.142.87 07/04 09:50
23Fe1q3z9c7:嗯……有道理,通常是皮毛的科學研究者118.165.142.87 07/04 09:55
24Fe1q3z9c7:在大小聲嚷嚷118.165.142.87 07/04 09:55
25Fe1q3z9c7:真正的科學家應該是胸襟寬大的118.165.142.87 07/04 09:55