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[閒聊] 為什麼西藏不該獨立???

[ DPP ]94 留言, 推噓總分: +15

作者: BioMachine - 發表於 2008/03/20 22:07(16年前)

4^F→BioMachine:為什麼"不可" 就只因為中國不可分割嗎61.216.2.161 03/20 22:11

6^F→BioMachine:那藏獨是對還錯?61.216.2.161 03/20 22:13

8^F→BioMachine:誰的國家利益中帝的嗎??61.216.2.161 03/20 22:15

10^F→BioMachine:那所以為了漢人就要犧牲藏人61.216.2.161 03/20 22:15

11^F→BioMachine:把幸福建立在別人的痛苦上!61.216.2.161 03/20 22:15

16^F→BioMachine:你要搞清楚他改變主張的背景61.216.5.16 03/20 22:20

17^F→BioMachine:泛藍的不要平常不關心現在抓一點片段61.216.5.16 03/20 22:20

20^F→BioMachine:新聞就來說嘴61.216.5.16 03/20 22:21

22^F→BioMachine:所以該譴責的是給他壓力的中帝61.216.5.16 03/20 22:21

27^F→BioMachine:是阿 1950年代就有鎮壓阿61.216.5.16 03/20 22:22

28^F→BioMachine:都協議好不改變西藏制度和文化61.216.5.16 03/20 22:22

29^F→BioMachine:還不是翻臉不認人61.216.5.16 03/20 22:22

31^F→BioMachine:所以聯合國不給幫助西藏就不該獨立嗎61.216.5.16 03/20 22:24

33^F→BioMachine:這是什麼謬論藍軍支持者不是都自許61.216.5.16 03/20 22:24

34^F→BioMachine:菁英嗎言論之淺薄真令人....61.216.5.16 03/20 22:25

36^F→BioMachine:中國違反協定打壓西藏在先才開始有61.216.5.16 03/20 22:25

37^F→BioMachine:藏人流亡進而在海外進行的獨立運動!61.216.5.16 03/20 22:26

39^F→BioMachine:難道被中國打壓都快死光還不得吭聲阿61.216.5.16 03/20 22:26

40^F→BioMachine:是中國先違反的不好意思61.216.5.16 03/20 22:27

42^F→BioMachine:因為中國鎮壓阿61.216.5.16 03/20 22:28

45^F→BioMachine:明明就不同文不同種不構成同在一民族61.216.5.16 03/20 22:29

46^F→BioMachine:國家裡的要件61.216.5.16 03/20 22:30

47^F→BioMachine:中國鎮壓要的是資源和戰略地位61.216.5.16 03/20 22:30

49^F→BioMachine:你確定沒有鎮壓其它族嗎?給妳一次機會61.216.5.16 03/20 22:30

50^F→BioMachine:修改你的說法61.216.5.16 03/20 22:31

52^F→BioMachine:這就對了61.216.5.16 03/20 22:31

53^F→BioMachine:所以中國人只是為了自身利益犧牲其61.216.5.16 03/20 22:32

55^F→BioMachine:它民族這和希特勒沒有兩樣61.216.5.16 03/20 22:33

56^F→BioMachine:少來藏人那種文化礙著中國人了麼?61.216.5.16 03/20 22:33

60^F→BioMachine:希特勒佔領區內的民族是也很想獨立自主61.216.5.16 03/20 22:35

61^F→BioMachine:所以只要被佔領就不能鬧獨立是嗎?61.216.5.16 03/20 22:35

62^F→BioMachine:我去強佔你家你還不能反抗是麼?61.216.5.16 03/20 22:36

64^F→BioMachine:種族主義者往往不會明示自己是種族主義61.216.5.16 03/20 22:36

66^F→BioMachine:中國對東突和西藏的鎮壓是種除屠殺行為61.216.5.16 03/20 22:37

Re: [閒聊] 今日的西藏，明日的台灣

[ DPP ]43 留言, 推噓總分: +7

作者: BioMachine - 發表於 2008/03/20 21:31(16年前)

2^F→BioMachine:外國一直想併吞你哪個國家會同意?61.216.2.161 03/20 21:43

6^F→BioMachine:西藏是被竊佔的獨立國家請搞清楚!61.216.2.161 03/20 21:49

9^F→BioMachine:西藏民族意識一直很強阿61.216.2.161 03/20 21:50

10^F→BioMachine:當初他們可不是心甘情願被中共統治的61.216.2.161 03/20 21:51

13^F→BioMachine:所以台灣假使被中國統治61.216.2.161 03/20 21:57

15^F→BioMachine:你也要用"國內有地方要獨立哪個國家會61.216.2.161 03/20 21:58

16^F→BioMachine:同意"來幫中國開脫囉61.216.2.161 03/20 21:58

19^F→BioMachine:你才須要理性點呢(笑)61.216.2.161 03/20 21:59

21^F→BioMachine:總之錯的是中國想要佔據他國61.216.2.161 03/20 22:00

24^F→BioMachine:不管是事實上的佔據還是一直叫囂統一61.216.2.161 03/20 22:00

26^F→BioMachine:錯的不是要獨立那方原PO倒果為因61.216.2.161 03/20 22:00

27^F→BioMachine:西藏是被中國佔據的61.216.2.161 03/20 22:01

29^F→BioMachine:喔那所以呢?61.216.2.161 03/20 22:01

31^F→BioMachine:我來開個新欄和你討論討論這點61.216.2.161 03/20 22:02

33^F→BioMachine:你要搞清楚這可不會是藏人心甘情願的61.216.2.161 03/20 22:07

34^F→BioMachine:你不要把弱者的委曲求全當成理所當然61.216.2.161 03/20 22:08

35^F→BioMachine:達賴得讓步不是給妳當藉口去幫中國說61.216.2.161 03/20 22:08

36^F→BioMachine:嘴開脫的61.216.2.161 03/20 22:09

[討論] 解釋文修正案

[ DPP ]242 留言, 推噓總分: +61

作者: oodh - 發表於 2007/11/09 09:13(16年前)

32^F推BioMachine:說真的我覺得版規有點太繁複晦澀61.217.216.37 11/09 10:17

36^F→BioMachine:其實a兄沒有借題發揮他講出我們心有61.217.216.37 11/09 10:18

37^F→BioMachine:所感但不知如何表達的感受61.217.216.37 11/09 10:19

40^F→BioMachine:其實不只是版規的意見吧我想他的第一61.217.216.37 11/09 10:20

41^F→BioMachine:段關於"理性"的討論才是重點61.217.216.37 11/09 10:21

43^F→BioMachine:的確版大很有心也不能說不尊重DPP支61.217.216.37 11/09 10:22

48^F→BioMachine:持者但這種"尊重"感覺上有點宣輔教61.217.216.37 11/09 10:22

50^F→BioMachine:化的味道61.217.216.37 11/09 10:23

54^F→BioMachine:畢竟DPP版版主除了主持討論還有服務61.217.216.37 11/09 10:24

57^F→BioMachine:並凝聚dpp支持者的功能61.217.216.37 11/09 10:24

59^F→BioMachine:整體來講這種感覺讓DPP支持者很難有61.217.216.37 11/09 10:25

60^F→BioMachine:認同感61.217.216.37 11/09 10:25

61^F→BioMachine:這種感受 A大的文章幫我們表達出來了61.217.216.37 11/09 10:26

76^F推BioMachine:說真的我希望我們能這裡帶起另一種61.217.216.37 11/09 10:34

77^F→BioMachine:不同於政黑的討論風格建議禁轉政黑文61.217.216.37 11/09 10:34

91^F推BioMachine:如果今天政黑板的政治討論沒有取代政治61.217.216.37 11/09 10:38

96^F→BioMachine:群組本身的功能我不會主張禁轉政黑文61.217.216.37 11/09 10:39

100^F→BioMachine:是阿版主只是有投他的網友的版主是嗎?61.217.216.37 11/09 10:40

103^F→BioMachine:既然他只是"你們"的版主那我們退出這61.217.216.37 11/09 10:41

105^F→BioMachine:個版算了61.217.216.37 11/09 10:41

117^F→BioMachine:我們感受不到尊重表達一下不行嗎?61.217.216.37 11/09 10:43

121^F→BioMachine:表達對這裡的看法不見討論倒見一堆禁61.217.216.37 11/09 10:43

123^F→BioMachine:衛軍護航61.217.216.37 11/09 10:44

133^F→BioMachine:說真的版主要發起辯論很好但是這個題61.217.216.37 11/09 10:45

136^F→BioMachine:目的設定也很難讓我們覺得尊重61.217.216.37 11/09 10:46

139^F→BioMachine:總之 a大那句"宣撫教化"用得傳神61.217.216.37 11/09 10:46

141^F→BioMachine:這幾天我其實常常想打篇文章講這種感覺61.217.216.37 11/09 10:47

147^F→BioMachine:說真的看到那篇就覺得他幫我們講出來了61.217.216.37 11/09 10:47

150^F→BioMachine:至於反DPP的或泛藍網友無法體會我不意61.217.216.37 11/09 10:49

151^F→BioMachine:外也可諒解61.217.216.37 11/09 10:50

160^F推BioMachine:我們的訴求和單一價值有關嗎?61.217.216.37 11/09 10:52

165^F→BioMachine:你們自己前陣子的文章我也不是沒看61.217.216.37 11/09 10:54

167^F→BioMachine:你我立場是啥我想彼此都很清楚61.217.216.37 11/09 10:54

169^F→BioMachine:DPP不是只有我們但我們是DPP的支持者61.217.216.37 11/09 10:55

172^F→BioMachine:我們有我們在DPP版表達意見的自由61.217.216.37 11/09 10:55

177^F→BioMachine:我們不覺得他有實現給DPP支持者友善與61.217.216.37 11/09 10:56

179^F→BioMachine:理性空間的政見表達不滿是不行嗎?61.217.216.37 11/09 10:57

181^F→BioMachine:我們只是支持者不要把你們對DPP政黨61.217.216.37 11/09 10:58

183^F→BioMachine:的批判加諸在我們頭上!!!!!!!61.217.216.37 11/09 10:58

186^F→BioMachine:就算DPP只有你們所謂單一價值好了61.217.216.37 11/09 10:59

190^F→BioMachine:也不代表你們就可以以此認定我們不尊重61.217.216.37 11/09 11:00

192^F→BioMachine:其他價值我們的身份是支持者61.217.216.37 11/09 11:00

195^F→BioMachine:我在PTT沒說過粗口這樣就是理性61.217.216.37 11/09 11:01

199^F→BioMachine:說真的政治場域的論述除了表達方式61.217.216.37 11/09 11:02

200^F→BioMachine:的理性外我不認為論述的本身適用理性61.217.216.37 11/09 11:02

202^F→BioMachine:和非理性的二分法61.217.216.37 11/09 11:02

205^F→BioMachine:反正我言盡於此如果這裡我不滿意61.217.216.37 11/09 11:03

207^F→BioMachine:說真的我會選擇離開比較快61.217.216.37 11/09 11:04

210^F→BioMachine:對於這裡還有這位版主還有期待我才回61.217.216.37 11/09 11:04

212^F→BioMachine:來表達一下我的感受61.217.216.37 11/09 11:04

217^F→BioMachine:總之我此刻所看到的就如同A大的標題61.217.216.37 11/09 11:05

219^F→BioMachine:一樣是這個版的毀滅61.217.216.37 11/09 11:05

222^F→BioMachine:反正如果我不再來了你們就可以在這61.217.216.37 11/09 11:06

224^F→BioMachine:擁抱你們自己的"多元DPP" 這真是太棒了61.217.216.37 11/09 11:07

228^F→BioMachine:恭喜你們小的出門去也61.217.216.37 11/09 11:07

Re: [討論] 為何台灣人要拜中國神！？

[ DPP ]51 留言, 推噓總分: +20

作者: ZMittermeyer - 發表於 2007/09/29 14:22(16年前)

22^F推BioMachine:大推Z大這篇很有同感61.216.4.86 09/29 16:13

26^F推BioMachine:其實民進黨拋棄的乃是一種史觀61.216.4.86 09/29 16:18

28^F→BioMachine:不是要拋棄中國文化61.216.4.86 09/29 16:19

29^F→BioMachine:版上口口聲聲要保衛中華文化的61.216.4.86 09/29 16:19

31^F→BioMachine:又有多少是真的有下功夫了解過的61.216.4.86 09/29 16:20

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