Re: [新聞] 輝達挺台積 超微找格羅方德
※ 引述《tint (璇月)》之銘言:
: Nvidia和AMD用上新製程的顯卡
: 應該都要等到2016年之後才會看到
良率這問題其實很複雜
因為等產品出來還有一年
中間會有甚麼改變都很難說
其實看amd上次公開的roadmap就很清楚惹
8 zen core cpu先上 因為這種賣比較貴 毛利高比較不在乎良率
2~4 zen core apu可能要到2017 這個會全面跟intel硬幹
良率=成本控制 這點就變得很重要惹
gpu麻又不太一樣
旗艦級的晶片都很大 晶片越大良率越差
一直以來大概都只有GG扛得住
主流級跟入門級就不太一樣
amd有不少東西轉到GF去惹
我之前聽到的消息是nv也有規劃GG以外的代工夥伴
因為一旦GF良率上來 amd就會像kaveri那樣降價
(kaveri是特殊28nm製程 客戶只有amd 產品只有kaveri所以初期糧率不優)
偏偏GG16超熱門的客戶一堆
nv萬一主流級跟入門級都賣太貴 市場給amd搶去就麻煩惹
如果有GG以外比較低價的代工夥伴 這點nv就不用擔心惹
但是鴨nv前陣子又幹惹一件事
就是把★★★跟Q康都告惹
這個問題就變得更複雜惹
nv黃董在這事上是一付勝劵再握的姿態
可是一些跡象看來
nv可能還沒討到半點好處之前 就先惹火一堆人想桶他惹
這次宣告擁抱GG16 只怕是不得不然也
總的來講其實我是不怎麼看好nv後勢
雖然這一年來maxwell十分強勢
但是接下來DX12
再來16/14nm顯卡大戰
(我猜也戰不太起來惹 可能只有兩種新晶片 剩下全都re)
還有amd zen core apu進擊 跟intel進行內顯大戰
如果nv在獨顯市佔退守6成
那整個gaming(pc+console)的天平就要往amd傾斜惹
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