Re: [分析] bounded vs. convergent subsequence

看板Math作者 (pony)時間9年前 (2016/07/13 09:45), 編輯推噓1(100)
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假設 f_k monotone and uniformly bounded on [0,1],則存在 逐點收斂之子序列. 大致步驟如下: 1 用對角線法,找出一個在有理數集上逐點收斂之子序列。仍將 此子序列記為 f_k。 2 不難看出,步驟一隻極限在有理數上遞增。將此極限延拓為一 [0,1] 上之遞增函數 f。延拓法可能不唯一,任取一個即可。 3 由遞增函數基本性質可知,f 在一可數集以外連續。 4 證明若 f 在 x 連續,則 f_k(x) 收斂至 f(x)。證明如下: Given e, pick x_0 and x_1 such that x_0<x<x_1 and f(x)-e<f(x_0)<f(x)<f(x_1)<f(x)+e There is an N so that for all n>N, |f_n(x_0)- f(x_0)|<e and |f_n(x_1)- f(x_1)|<e. In particulr, For all n>N, f_n(x_0)> f(x)-2e and f_n(x_1)< f(x)+2e. This implies |f_n(x)-f(x)|< 2e since f is monotone 5 用對角線法處理 f 不連續的點。 ※ 引述《znmkhxrw (QQ)》之銘言: : ※ 引述《GSXSP (Gloria)》之銘言: : : 標題: [分析] bounded vs. convergent subsequence : : 時間: Sat Jul 9 08:04:05 2016 : According to your repost, codomain of each f_k is R (set of real numbers). : : Q1: : : f_k (i) uniformly bounded for all i = 1, 2 ,... : : Can we find a subsequence k_j such that : : f_{k_j} (i) converge for all i=1,2,... : The answer is positive. You can prove directly as your repost, or by general : Arzela-Ascoli Theorem stated below. : <Thm> : Let X be a separable space and f_k(x) a sequence of functions from X to R. : If f_k(x) is pointwisely bounded and locally equicontinuous, : then there exists a uniformly convergent subsequence f_k_j(x) : <Remark> : 1.X is a separable space := : X contains a countable dense subset. : 2.f_k(x) is pointwisely bounded := : for any a€X, there exists M>0 such that │f_k(a)│<= M for any k. : 3.f_k(x) is locally equicontinuous := : for any a€X, there exists a neighborhood of a, say U_a, such that : f_k(x) is equicontinuous on U_a. : ------------------------------------------------------------------- : For your Q1: : 1.X = set of natural numbers, of course a separable space : 2.uniformly bounded implies pointwisely bounded : 3.locally equicontinuous follows by X being a discrete metric space, since : for each point, you may take delta=1 such that there's only itself inside. : 4.from above, you obtain a uniformly convergent subsequence, : of course convergent. : : Q2: : : f_k(x) uniformly bounded for all x \in [0,1] : : Can we find a subsequence k_j such that : : f_{k_j} (x) converge for all x \in [0,1] : Negative, counterexample:f_k(x) = cos(nx), x€[-1,1] : But there are two results. : 1.f_k(x) doesn't have uniformly convergent subsequence. : 2.f_k(x) doesn't have convergent subsequence. : The former one is easier to be proved than the latter one, which relies on : Real analysis. (I don't know if there's simpler proof or not) : For some discussion, you may refer to #1FJlxeaW and #1GMPuLdT. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 131.179.23.243 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Math/M.1468374306.A.66C.html

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感謝! 這方法很清楚!
07/13 10:00, 1F
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