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Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]3 留言, 推噓總分: +1
作者: wedo - 發表於 2008/07/03 17:43(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:說得很中肯,只可惜被一些邏輯很行的曲解118.165.142.40 07/03 22:43
2Fe1q3z9c7:為您掬把同情淚118.165.142.40 07/03 22:43
Re: [新奇] 製造蟲洞的方法
[ paranormal ]26 留言, 推噓總分: +1
作者: e1q3z9c7 - 發表於 2008/07/03 01:57(16年前)
4Fe1q3z9c7:事實上我真的搞錯了,那是發散數列才對118.165.159.205 07/03 02:02
6Fe1q3z9c7:機率只有越來越高118.165.159.205 07/03 02:02
7Fe1q3z9c7:可能性本來就是科學發展的前導118.165.159.205 07/03 02:03
8Fe1q3z9c7:若無可能性科學家全部活在相對論底下就好118.165.159.205 07/03 02:04
9Fe1q3z9c7:何必再提假說?118.165.159.205 07/03 02:04
12Fe1q3z9c7:如果你連這種微乎其微的地方都解是不通118.165.159.205 07/03 02:06
13Fe1q3z9c7:那我也只好找其他縫繼續插針了118.165.159.205 07/03 02:06
16Fe1q3z9c7:這麼說起來,我沒有貼你就不知道這可能囉118.165.159.205 07/03 02:08
18Fe1q3z9c7:還是說我沒貼這個可能就不存在118.165.159.205 07/03 02:08
19Fe1q3z9c7:換你在玩帥咧,南大哥118.165.159.205 07/03 02:08
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]14 留言, 推噓總分: +1
作者: ineis - 發表於 2008/07/03 01:32(16年前)
12Fe1q3z9c7:沒有關係嘛,人生一回瀟灑點,哈哈哈118.165.159.205 07/03 02:07
13Fe1q3z9c7:不過原po真的很認真 給你啪啪~118.165.159.205 07/03 02:21
Re: [新奇] 製造蟲洞的方法
[ paranormal ]16 留言, 推噓總分: +4
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/03 00:57(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:你懂科學哲學嗎?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:31
5Fe1q3z9c7:3樓既然會說出這種話很顯然不太懂118.165.159.205 07/03 01:42
6Fe1q3z9c7:因為我想的東西會決定我的感受118.165.159.205 07/03 02:20
7Fe1q3z9c7:而我的感受決定我的生命體驗,所以我選擇118.165.159.205 07/03 02:20
8Fe1q3z9c7:「忽略」一些「客觀」的東西,去成就更好118.165.159.205 07/03 02:20
9Fe1q3z9c7:的個人感受118.165.159.205 07/03 02:20
12Fe1q3z9c7:我吹捧的是哲學本體,跟我個人無涉118.165.142.40 07/03 08:33
13Fe1q3z9c7:頂多透過自我經驗為例證去闡發罷了118.165.142.40 07/03 08:36
15Fe1q3z9c7:難以割捨的漣漪對吧118.165.132.143 07/04 05:52
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]15 留言, 推噓總分: +2
作者: caseypie - 發表於 2008/07/03 00:25(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:所以你不曾見過神所以神不存在?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:28
2Fe1q3z9c7:或是你無法理解神的存在所以神不存在?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:29
3Fe1q3z9c7:科學真萬能?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:29
7Fe1q3z9c7:我有個大膽的假設,心智實驗的不成功多與118.165.142.40 07/03 10:45
8Fe1q3z9c7:反對者的排斥意識有關,會干擾,即便僥118.165.142.40 07/03 10:45
9Fe1q3z9c7:倖成功,不是被視而不見,就說次數太少118.165.142.40 07/03 10:45
10Fe1q3z9c7:如此下去,心的力量,始終被壓在物之下118.165.142.40 07/03 10:46
11Fe1q3z9c7:而只能歸於神佛,無法為人所用118.165.142.40 07/03 10:46
12Fe1q3z9c7:但我見過不少神佛幫助人的案例,為何我們118.165.142.40 07/03 10:46
13Fe1q3z9c7:不能自己來?118.165.142.40 07/03 10:46
14Fe1q3z9c7:還是訴諸於鴕鳥心態,碰到事情再求神拜佛118.165.142.40 07/03 10:47
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]74 留言, 推噓總分: +11
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/03 00:22(16年前)
9Fe1q3z9c7:但如果客觀無法觀察真理是否不存在?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:29
10Fe1q3z9c7:有誰能把一個神叫到大家面前公證嗎?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:29
11Fe1q3z9c7:誰來告訴我薛丁格的貓究竟是死是活?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:30
14Fe1q3z9c7:那你可以解釋為何所謂「客觀數據」即真理118.165.159.205 07/03 01:37
15Fe1q3z9c7:這個簡單的科學概念嗎?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:37
16Fe1q3z9c7:你確定你真的能理解雙縫實驗的粒子運動?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:38
21Fe1q3z9c7:真懂為何要嘲笑人而非具體說明?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:41
22Fe1q3z9c7:還是藉著嘲笑人「證明」自己懂?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:42
23Fe1q3z9c7:這種證明就叫科學式的證明呀,大開眼界118.165.159.205 07/03 01:42
26Fe1q3z9c7:喔 原來如此 那我的東西又何須證明118.165.159.205 07/03 01:44
27Fe1q3z9c7:一句「不當免費家教」就混過去,多輕鬆118.165.159.205 07/03 01:44
28Fe1q3z9c7:你教了多久請問?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:45
29Fe1q3z9c7:有到半天我輸你118.165.159.205 07/03 01:45
31Fe1q3z9c7:如果你連製造蟲洞的可能都不知道118.165.159.205 07/03 01:45
33Fe1q3z9c7:在胡亂吹捧自己,你真當有人服嗎?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:46
34Fe1q3z9c7:要是心靈層面的東西可以如科學般反覆驗證118.165.159.205 07/03 01:46
35Fe1q3z9c7:那製造大師變成一種簡單的過程了118.165.159.205 07/03 01:47
39Fe1q3z9c7:接近不可能=絕對不可能,這是你教的118.165.159.205 07/03 01:49
45Fe1q3z9c7:你只要說一句「非核爆」就夠了118.165.159.205 07/03 01:50
46Fe1q3z9c7:多餘的只是炫學罷了,看不出有何價值118.165.159.205 07/03 01:50
49Fe1q3z9c7:j 那如果明天又提出一種新的看法呢?118.165.159.205 07/03 01:50
50Fe1q3z9c7:好吧,我就回文回一下,單純邏輯問題118.165.159.205 07/03 01:51
57Fe1q3z9c7:我的意思純粹在闡明「可能性」118.165.159.205 07/03 01:59
58Fe1q3z9c7:而非「絕對性」118.165.159.205 07/03 02:00
59Fe1q3z9c7:有可能成立也有可能被推翻,兩者不能有一118.165.159.205 07/03 02:04
60Fe1q3z9c7:者被遺漏118.165.159.205 07/03 02:05
61Fe1q3z9c7:否則便違背基本科學精神了對吧118.165.159.205 07/03 02:05
64Fe1q3z9c7:當然是科幻,這裡不是物理版118.165.159.205 07/03 02:14
65Fe1q3z9c7:是給人做夢的地方,無限可能性的地方118.165.159.205 07/03 02:14
66Fe1q3z9c7:要是事實可以驗證會留在物理版118.165.159.205 07/03 02:14
67Fe1q3z9c7:不會淪落到這種版眾不懂科學的地方118.165.159.205 07/03 02:15
68Fe1q3z9c7:可能性帶來自由,而非被常數、物理規則118.165.159.205 07/03 02:22
69Fe1q3z9c7:綁住的痛苦,我才不要那種東西118.165.159.205 07/03 02:23
71Fe1q3z9c7:超自然畢竟是有發生過一些現象118.165.159.205 07/03 02:29
72Fe1q3z9c7:但解讀上面可以用科幻解118.165.159.205 07/03 02:30
73Fe1q3z9c7:反過來不行是真的118.165.159.205 07/03 02:30
[討論] 超自然現象的起因
[ paranormal ]130 留言, 推噓總分: +2
作者: e1q3z9c7 - 發表於 2008/07/02 22:20(16年前)
17Fe1q3z9c7:我又不玩科學那套,不信就不信唄118.165.159.205 07/03 01:21
18Fe1q3z9c7:你如果有空可以去研究量子力學,我的思想118.165.159.205 07/03 01:21
19Fe1q3z9c7:和new age和量子力學的皮毛有關118.165.159.205 07/03 01:22
20Fe1q3z9c7:中獎者必有某種因素,牽扯複雜的因果118.165.159.205 07/03 01:23
21Fe1q3z9c7:但如果群體希望某個人中獎,機率勢必提高118.165.159.205 07/03 01:23
23Fe1q3z9c7:http://blog.udn.com/shell1219/1487653118.165.159.205 07/03 01:36
24Fe1q3z9c7:我還記得像是群體意志改變隨機分配圖118.165.159.205 07/03 01:36
25Fe1q3z9c7:暫時無法找到相關資料118.165.159.205 07/03 01:36
38Fe1q3z9c7:那關於「生命的意義水知道」也全盤胡說?118.165.159.205 07/03 02:24
39Fe1q3z9c7:「生命的答案 水知道」118.165.159.205 07/03 02:25
48Fe1q3z9c7:但是結晶體的改變不是一個事實嗎?118.165.159.205 07/03 02:31
54Fe1q3z9c7:所以說凡是不穩定的東西都不被科學接受118.165.159.205 07/03 02:34
56Fe1q3z9c7:那舉世到底有多少事是完全穩定的我很好奇118.165.159.205 07/03 02:35
58Fe1q3z9c7:應該是可以,只要掌握與水溝通的方法118.165.159.205 07/03 02:35
61Fe1q3z9c7:到頭來其實人都是活在主觀的世界中呀118.165.159.205 07/03 02:38
62Fe1q3z9c7:哪些方法?118.165.159.205 07/03 02:39
63Fe1q3z9c7:說話、意念等?118.165.159.205 07/03 02:39
66Fe1q3z9c7:完全不用,隨機而言,當然有可能118.165.159.205 07/03 02:40
67Fe1q3z9c7:若水能接收人的思想,天地萬物的思想他也118.165.159.205 07/03 02:40
69Fe1q3z9c7:都能接收,如何把水擺到超大真空箱中?118.165.159.205 07/03 02:41
72Fe1q3z9c7:況且在你建造人造環境的時候就會有殘念118.165.159.205 07/03 02:42
73Fe1q3z9c7:殘留意念在機體上面,不能完全排除掉干涉118.165.159.205 07/03 02:43
75Fe1q3z9c7:如果要扯到跨越時空的意念感染就更寬了118.165.159.205 07/03 02:43
77Fe1q3z9c7:你想要弄出來的不是違反常態的結晶嗎?118.165.159.205 07/03 02:44
83Fe1q3z9c7:我不太能理解你的目的是什麼118.165.159.205 07/03 02:47
88Fe1q3z9c7:水可以做到≠形狀對應標籤或言語118.165.159.205 07/03 02:49
90Fe1q3z9c7:我可以奔跑,但如果讓我跑的情境如果是張118.165.159.205 07/03 02:50
91Fe1q3z9c7:標籤就很離奇了118.165.159.205 07/03 02:50
92Fe1q3z9c7:但那些形狀給人的觀感是差不多的118.165.159.205 07/03 02:51
94Fe1q3z9c7:美與醜、規則與混亂,很少有人會做相異解118.165.159.205 07/03 02:51
96Fe1q3z9c7:後來的意念較強足以覆蓋118.165.159.205 07/03 02:52
98Fe1q3z9c7:是啊118.165.159.205 07/03 02:53
100Fe1q3z9c7:都有可能是沒錯,偏偏前者對應你好118.165.159.205 07/03 02:53
102Fe1q3z9c7:也可以這麼說,但只要數量較多就能說有理118.165.159.205 07/03 02:53
103Fe1q3z9c7:畢竟實驗一定有誤差,當然也有貼「你好」118.165.159.205 07/03 02:54
104Fe1q3z9c7:卻長得不夠漂亮的118.165.159.205 07/03 02:54
107Fe1q3z9c7:自然與否不是重點,他在闡述人與水的關係118.165.159.205 07/03 02:54
109Fe1q3z9c7:但我覺得那些人根本找碴的,都能出書了118.165.159.205 07/03 02:55
111Fe1q3z9c7:所以我說那些找碴者並非真的反對結論118.165.159.205 07/03 02:55
113Fe1q3z9c7:而是惶恐於意念影響物質的可能性118.165.159.205 07/03 02:56
114Fe1q3z9c7:破壞了基本的物理信仰118.165.159.205 07/03 02:56
118Fe1q3z9c7:嗯……科學界也有新潮流和死硬派吧118.165.159.205 07/03 02:57
124Fe1q3z9c7:http://www.whatthebleep.com/118.165.159.205 07/03 03:01
125Fe1q3z9c7:我一些基本的量子常識來源118.165.159.205 07/03 03:01
126Fe1q3z9c7:發現最後事實變得很矛盾,無法統整118.165.159.205 07/03 03:02
127Fe1q3z9c7:從唯物一下跳到純粹意識的組合118.165.159.205 07/03 03:13
128Fe1q3z9c7:反事也都是物極必反吧118.165.159.205 07/03 03:15
129Fe1q3z9c7:多看飄版吧,會讓人對物質產生疑惑118.165.142.40 07/03 15:14
Re: [新奇] 製造蟲洞的方法
[ paranormal ]66 留言, 推噓總分: +11
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/02 19:26(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:既然你也承認要有過程,兩千年長嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 19:30
2Fe1q3z9c7:飛行也可以說哲學家的無限先進118.165.159.205 07/02 19:30
3Fe1q3z9c7:只是較為個體化罷了,有些人可以超前118.165.159.205 07/02 19:31
4Fe1q3z9c7:如此而已,講到這裡也沒什麼好疑義的了118.165.159.205 07/02 19:31
5Fe1q3z9c7:我有錢「就」能買東西,並非把錢丟在地上118.165.159.205 07/02 19:36
6Fe1q3z9c7:東西就變出來118.165.159.205 07/02 19:36
7Fe1q3z9c7:但你說有錢的人怎麼不見東西憑空變出來118.165.159.205 07/02 19:36
8Fe1q3z9c7:哪個比較武斷?118.165.159.205 07/02 19:37
15Fe1q3z9c7:相信是前提,若不相信何來想辦法?118.165.159.205 07/02 20:06
16Fe1q3z9c7:中間節略而已118.165.159.205 07/02 20:06
17Fe1q3z9c7:而在精神層次,「信念」比「方法」更重要118.165.159.205 07/02 20:07
18Fe1q3z9c7:所以物質發明講求技巧,心智發展講究執念118.165.159.205 07/02 20:07
19Fe1q3z9c7:任何人都不能擺脫兩者同時的干涉118.165.159.205 07/02 20:08
20Fe1q3z9c7:但可以試圖去突破,無論物質或心靈118.165.159.205 07/02 20:08
22Fe1q3z9c7:不相信是擺脫的前提118.165.159.205 07/02 20:12
23Fe1q3z9c7:若革命家不相信自己會成功,何必送死?118.165.159.205 07/02 20:12
24Fe1q3z9c7:應該說,那何必革命,都聽自然的就好了118.165.159.205 07/02 20:13
27Fe1q3z9c7:有點跳:相信能成功=不相信官方的絕對118.165.159.205 07/02 20:16
28Fe1q3z9c7:客觀的存在若不經過你的信念,是無法成真118.165.159.205 07/02 20:16
29Fe1q3z9c7:的,因為你活在其中,所以不感覺118.165.159.205 07/02 20:17
31Fe1q3z9c7:事實上存在本身就是一種信念的體現118.165.159.205 07/02 20:17
32Fe1q3z9c7:對呀,政權的存在讓很多人絕望118.165.159.205 07/02 20:18
33Fe1q3z9c7:認為其是絕對的,而譏諷革命家的愚蠢118.165.159.205 07/02 20:18
35Fe1q3z9c7:這是唯心論,我以為是包裹在唯物論之外的118.165.159.205 07/02 20:19
37Fe1q3z9c7:不相信是自我的想法,無關乎客觀現實118.165.159.205 07/02 20:19
38Fe1q3z9c7:好比演講的時候,把底下觀眾當石頭118.165.159.205 07/02 20:20
40Fe1q3z9c7:但他們並非真的時候,對你來說卻是118.165.159.205 07/02 20:20
42Fe1q3z9c7:那至少可以說是個人想法凌駕於現實之上118.165.159.205 07/02 20:20
43Fe1q3z9c7:就是因為那「本來」存在,才要去「不相信118.165.159.205 07/02 20:21
44Fe1q3z9c7:否則本來不存在的東西,不信就不信,何必118.165.159.205 07/02 20:21
45Fe1q3z9c7:強調?118.165.159.205 07/02 20:21
46Fe1q3z9c7:簡單說就是創造屬於自我的現實118.165.159.205 07/02 20:22
47Fe1q3z9c7:有點像催眠118.165.159.205 07/02 20:22
48Fe1q3z9c7:而催眠到極限,你的現實改變了,就無所謂118.165.159.205 07/02 20:22
49Fe1q3z9c7:客觀如何118.165.159.205 07/02 20:22
50Fe1q3z9c7:每個人也都是活在大腦知覺的世界中118.165.159.205 07/02 20:23
51Fe1q3z9c7:現實是否對於每個人來說皆相同,難說118.165.159.205 07/02 20:24
52Fe1q3z9c7:你或許會問:如果只是催眠如何真的「飛」118.165.159.205 07/02 20:27
53Fe1q3z9c7:比較虛幻的講法是觀眾也是自我的幻想118.165.159.205 07/02 20:27
54Fe1q3z9c7:比較實際的講法就是你能讓引力對身體失效118.165.159.205 07/02 20:28
55Fe1q3z9c7:至於心如何真的對物起作用118.165.159.205 07/02 20:29
56Fe1q3z9c7:可以參考一些量子實驗,或是背後有人時的118.165.159.205 07/02 20:29
57Fe1q3z9c7:自我覺察118.165.159.205 07/02 20:29
58Fe1q3z9c7:可以證明「觀點」隨時隨地在影響「現實」118.165.159.205 07/02 20:29
59Fe1q3z9c7:因為一般人的影響幅度非常小,對於引力118.165.159.205 07/02 20:30
60Fe1q3z9c7:這種層級的「現實」很難起作用,但如同118.165.159.205 07/02 20:30
61Fe1q3z9c7:勤練肌肉就能舉重一樣,勤練思維也能飛118.165.159.205 07/02 20:30
63Fe1q3z9c7:嗯嗯118.165.159.205 07/02 20:49
64Fe1q3z9c7:因為比較無關版旨,只是思想的東西118.165.159.205 07/02 20:50
65Fe1q3z9c7:佔用版面不好意思118.165.159.205 07/02 20:50
Re: [新聞] 英神祕麥田圈 竟是圓周率?
[ paranormal ]57 留言, 推噓總分: +5
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/02 18:59(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:信仰的框架下,科學和宗教不同118.165.159.205 07/02 19:05
2Fe1q3z9c7:不與同隸屬於「信仰」母集合底下互斥118.165.159.205 07/02 19:05
7Fe1q3z9c7:導致信仰科學的人撻伐,三樓對吧118.165.159.205 07/02 19:07
8Fe1q3z9c7:深表同感118.165.159.205 07/02 19:07
9Fe1q3z9c7:ccc 人非聖賢,回頭是岸118.165.159.205 07/02 19:08
12Fe1q3z9c7:是啊,若在此框架以外的想破頭也是白想118.165.159.205 07/02 19:10
13Fe1q3z9c7:科學始終不能將神鬼解釋清楚大概就是這樣118.165.159.205 07/02 19:10
17Fe1q3z9c7:我也很納悶118.165.159.205 07/02 19:15
18Fe1q3z9c7:基督教徒面對無神論者的悲憤吧118.165.159.205 07/02 19:16
20Fe1q3z9c7:b大是個明理的人,見笑了118.165.159.205 07/02 19:17
32Fe1q3z9c7:那為何不理性的指出問題所在,再提供118.165.159.205 07/02 19:25
33Fe1q3z9c7:更適解?118.165.159.205 07/02 19:25
36Fe1q3z9c7:而是用那種令人聽了很不舒服的口吻批判?118.165.159.205 07/02 19:25
40Fe1q3z9c7:偽科學≠超自然解釋,請勿混淆118.165.159.205 07/02 19:27
54Fe1q3z9c7:呵呵,樓上別輕忽格鬥電玩的價值呀118.165.159.205 07/02 20:10
55Fe1q3z9c7:很多事情是在和平中求取動亂快感的手段118.165.159.205 07/02 20:10
56Fe1q3z9c7:人嘛~你知道的118.165.159.205 07/02 20:10
Re: [新奇] 製造蟲洞的方法
[ paranormal ]22 留言, 推噓總分: +2
作者: Yenchin - 發表於 2008/07/02 18:49(16年前)
1Fe1q3z9c7:文明會演進的,還有顯微鏡只是觀察道具118.165.159.205 07/02 18:50
2Fe1q3z9c7:存不存在不影響對象的生滅118.165.159.205 07/02 18:50
4Fe1q3z9c7:你的概念不是理論=實物嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 18:51
5Fe1q3z9c7:誰說「現在」兩個字出來的?118.165.159.205 07/02 18:51
7Fe1q3z9c7:因為原po太神,我抬舉抬舉也不行嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 18:51
8Fe1q3z9c7:我有說忽略過程嗎?118.165.159.205 07/02 18:52
10Fe1q3z9c7:原po說哲學家能飛,代表不需要過程啊118.165.159.205 07/02 18:52
11Fe1q3z9c7:過獎118.165.159.205 07/02 18:52
13Fe1q3z9c7:沒問題118.165.159.205 07/02 18:53
14Fe1q3z9c7:你給一個古人看電視,還不是「無限先進」118.165.159.205 07/02 18:54
15Fe1q3z9c7:講近一點的也行,核融合發電做個來看看118.165.159.205 07/02 18:56
16Fe1q3z9c7:這個都能凹還有很多科學理論排隊喔118.165.159.205 07/02 18:56
18Fe1q3z9c7:那要靠原po,我哪那麼厲害,用飆的118.165.159.205 07/02 18:59
20Fe1q3z9c7:對呀,你看原po多厲害,佩服的呢~118.165.159.205 07/02 19:04