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2F→:那就是黑箱囉？08/17 17:35
3F→:怎麼不是學校發專用垃圾袋給學生？08/17 17:35
7F→:相反了相反了 不是上行下效嗎？08/17 17:39
8F→:怎麼反而變成要人民自己做好？那我們要政府幹嘛？08/17 17:40
9F→:如果今天沒有這個鳥政策，一起丟市府垃圾車才省事咧08/17 17:40
12F→:那其他縣市做回收都是做心酸的囉？08/17 17:42
14F→:清潔隊員檢查也是檢查心酸的？08/17 17:42
16F→:本來就會得罪人，今天你好好跟人民說或許比較難08/17 17:43
17F→:但容易讓人接受，如果用這種強制性作法任誰都會不高興08/17 17:43
19F→:因為這本來就是民生必需的東西，有錢人還應該幫窮人出咧08/17 17:44
20F→:那就應該要找更好的方法宣導啊，提供獎勵等誘因08/17 17:44
21F→:往幼齡教育紮根08/17 17:44
22F→:就像我常說的：把罪人都砍了最省事。但這樣正義嗎？08/17 17:46
24F→:有關 我在政治光譜上比較偏懷柔 而隨袋徵收比較苛08/17 18:25
25F→:我覺得往那個方向並不好08/17 18:26
28F→:應該說：在制裁前提供夠寬闊的道路供人自由行走08/17 19:00
29F→:極端當然都有問題，重點在於比較「傾向」寬或嚴08/17 19:00
30F→:比如說如果已經讓人自由丟垃圾了還亂丟 那就該重罰08/17 19:02
34F→:公開招標是學校對廠商 那廠商對政府呢？08/17 19:48
35F→:不要犯了盲人摸象的錯，規則不一樣的時候問題就叢生了08/17 19:49
36F→:很多事真的很無奈，這時候若不是自己從政也無從改善08/17 19:50
40F→:哪是藉口 雖然我是光明正大跟其他學生一起倒的08/17 20:33
41F→:但這是不好的行為，我自負一半責任，政府要負另一半08/17 20:33
42F→:一般人論包計費，學校以車計費，這不是很不公平嗎？08/17 20:34
43F→:http://ppt.cc/ZXJJ問題是人搞出來的，政策誘人犯罪？08/17 20:36
46F→:那好啊 推出校用專用垃圾袋嘛08/17 20:40
47F→:用途不同價格不同可以 但不能黑箱作業08/17 20:40
48F→:而且誰會製造多的垃圾去壓低垃圾費用 這個利益方向不同吧08/17 20:42
49F→: 單位 處理08/17 20:42
50F→:還是沒有人喜歡民生主義嗎？一定要走資？08/17 20:43
51F→:我以為中產以下應該會比較傾左的說……08/17 20:46
52F→:雖然不太想這麼說，但台灣人的奴性是不是有點重呢？08/17 20:48
53F→:差點忘了再重申一次 垃圾費隨袋徵收是暴利 暴利是不正當的08/17 20:51
54F→:一個自稱民主的政府以矇騙的方式去獲取這種利益則更顯邪惡08/17 20:53
60F→:這個政策就是以「減少垃圾量」掩護「牟取暴利」啊08/17 21:35
61F→:立意很好 但作法很可議08/17 21:35
62F→:這種事很多 像國民年金、後座要繫安全帶……08/17 21:37
63F→:很怪，本來都是些可有可無的事，突然多了那麼多名目討錢08/17 21:37
64F→:這個政府到底打什麼主意呢？08/17 21:37
66F→:沒錯 問題來了08/17 21:38
67F→:一堆工程弊案就是這樣來的 低價高報08/17 21:39
69F→:以台灣這個黨治國家而言……只有輿論而已……08/17 21:41
70F→:高級一點你可以打給議員、立委，但對方不一定鳥你08/17 21:42
72F→:民主國家應該要有的創制和複決權 在台灣只能幻想而已08/17 21:44
73F→:所以，最根本的，就是從政，但最重要的，要有能力08/17 21:45
81F→:官逼民反 民不得不反08/18 07:48
82F→:米酒一瓶一百多塊的時候，私釀米酒一定應運而生08/18 07:51
83F→:不道德的源頭在哪？08/18 07:51
84F→:我就是覺得惡法非法，一定要以體制外的作為加以制裁08/18 08:00
85F→:即便帶來犧牲與損失，也是為了大局著想08/18 08:03
86F→:前提是匯聚夠多力量，只有我一個怎麼看都只是貪小便宜08/18 08:16
89F→:公平良善？請問其他縣市都是骯髒邪惡嗎？08/18 08:45
90F→:你有沒有想過一樣屬於直轄市的高雄市為什麼不執行此政策08/18 09:40
91F→:至於馬跟郝的政績有目共睹，我就不多做評論了08/18 09:41
95F→:請注意 囤放垃圾的地方都是「垃圾車途經處」08/18 10:05
97F→:代表那些人其實並不想亂丟，只是不想付高額的垃圾袋費用08/18 10:05
100F→:單純反？一行馬郝對幾十行正文叫單純反？？？08/18 10:06
101F→:如果要斷章取義的話 你說的人 難道就不是指馬郝嗎？08/18 10:06
102F→:把問題弄清楚，不要隨便模糊焦點08/18 10:07
103F→:在沒有實施這個政策之前，亂丟的現象好很多很多08/18 10:08
106F→:你的意思是政策實施前後 亂丟垃圾的情況沒差？08/18 10:08
107F→:你有在倒垃圾的時候親自走一趟嗎？08/18 10:09
109F→:你看到的時段可能清潔隊都把垃圾收走了吧08/18 10:09
112F→:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTtqAD-lowU參考一下08/18 10:11
113F→:你大概住在高級住宅區吧 都太有錢太有水準了08/18 10:12
114F→:看不到一般民間疾苦08/18 10:12
115F→:我記得政策實施之前只在颱風天沒收垃圾的時候看到亂丟08/18 10:13
116F→:其他時間都還蠻乾淨的08/18 10:13
125F→:我有說自己是對的嗎？08/18 12:43
126F→:請在批評我之餘 思考一下政府的政策是否正義08/18 12:43
127F→:好比孫中山革命，在當時來看也是錯的，但不得不然08/18 12:45
129F→:我丟到垃圾車裡謝謝08/18 13:02
1F推:資源回收是靠從小養成的生活習慣 普通人哪會在意那點小錢08/17 10:39
2F→:不過這些小錢加一加 恐怕就不是小錢了 這些錢上哪去了？08/17 10:40
3F→:政府很喜歡訂一些冠冕堂皇的政策，實際目的還不就斂財08/17 10:40
12F推:請問你住過北市嗎？你知道因為這個政策垃圾被亂丟嗎？08/17 16:17
13F→:有公德心一點還會丟在公共垃圾桶，其他的就不用說了吧08/17 16:18
14F→:自從塑化劑事件後，你還對鄭府題公的樹具有信心嗎？08/17 16:19
15F→: 政府提供的數據08/17 16:19
16F→:恕我直言，既然這個政策可以A錢，那做再多假數據有何困難08/17 16:20
17F→:不要說假數據啦，應該說「技術性數據」比較對08/17 16:20
18F→:誰不會產生垃圾？搞使用者付費本身就怪怪的吧08/17 16:22
19F推:真正無知的是政府說什麼就聽什麼的人吧08/17 16:25
20F推:http://www.lihpao.com/?action-viewnews-itemid-5499408/17 16:27
21F推:在丟垃圾的時候清潔隊員本來就會檢查有無分類了08/17 16:31
22F→:根本不需要畫蛇添足，誰來還市民一個乾淨的街景？08/17 16:31
23F→:應該說如果垃圾量真的減少，也是因為「檢查」這個動作吧08/17 16:37
9F→:我都跑到師大裡面丟垃圾車（小聲）08/16 22:48
13F→:民生必需的東西不應該額外收費 最好能免費08/17 01:11
14F推:理想的社會福利應該保障每個人的基本需求08/17 01:13
19F→:提供食物券、衣物、國宅 本來就是政府該做的事08/17 10:36
20F→:只是生在台灣這個資方天堂會覺得生存只能靠自己而已08/17 10:37
21F→:就算養米蟲也好 這是立國的基本人道精神08/17 10:37
27F推:照你的論點歐洲國家應該快垮光了08/17 14:28
28F→:我只是說滿足「基本」需求，不是說人人均富或都吃香喝辣08/17 14:29
29F→:一個國家連讓人民向上的動力都無法供給，還有存在意義嗎08/17 14:29
34F推:behe 重點是現在垃圾減量了，需要付出的錢卻變多了08/18 11:48
35F→:那簡單 就加稅吧！08/18 11:48
36F→:http://blog.udn.com/waityu/433327008/18 11:49
37F→:http://ppt.cc/UgBS08/18 11:50
38F→:然而……台灣的情況有點複雜 黑金政治太嚴重了08/18 11:50
39F→:加稅不會利益人民，要治本得先從輿論開始08/18 11:51
40F→:所以看到盲目支持政府的人我才覺得感慨萬千08/18 11:51
42F推:立意良善 作法邪惡 有用嗎？08/18 12:42
17F推: 英九救我08/12 12:36
28F推:死了只會更無聊而已 你已經忘記自己生下來的理由了08/13 08:52
39F推:在城市裡有野生動物？你的定義十分詭異啊……08/11 12:19
58F→:狐狸很可愛哦～08/12 08:34
15F噓:你一定沒玩過三國志08/09 21:00
19F推:差不多就跟你說的一樣08/11 21:16
2F→:有更詳細的說明嗎？08/09 07:58
3F→:娃 似乎被修好了08/09 07:58
2F推:社會主義啊08/08 19:30
8F推:還有無政府主義、烏托邦主義等比較幻想型的08/08 20:40
12F推:反過來說 也正因為人類存在才發展出各種主義08/08 21:46
6F推:daze怎麼不見了？08/07 22:52
4F推:好跳痛的句子08/02 11:28
12F→:你覺得人類的肉眼可以看到多少東西？08/02 20:48