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[請益] 使用wifi6 網路需求？

[ PC_Shopping ]84 留言, 推噓總分: +30

作者: boss840508 - 發表於 2024/03/24 10:34(2月前)

17^F→birdy590: 變快是當然更大的進步應該是在改善覆蓋115.43.53.170 03/24 12:25

18^F→birdy590: 現在連低階手機 wifi 都已經是標準配置115.43.53.170 03/24 12:25

19^F→birdy590: wifi6115.43.53.170 03/24 12:26

64^F推birdy590: 我比較熟小米而已, 紅米的5G幾乎是標配115.43.53.170 03/25 00:28

65^F→birdy590: 剛查一下最便宜的舊款大概五千左右而已115.43.53.170 03/25 00:30

66^F→birdy590: 這種價位就算上OIS拍照應該也很難好吧115.43.53.170 03/25 00:36

67^F→birdy590: 再往下不建議碰現在買個純4G手機可能115.43.53.170 03/25 00:38

68^F→birdy590: 也才差個一千塊感覺就不怎麼划算115.43.53.170 03/25 00:39

70^F→birdy590: 5GHZ/80MHz/ac 大概極限就是500左右115.43.53.170 03/25 01:53

71^F→birdy590: 看 link speed, 有些很舊的只有 1T1R115.43.53.170 03/25 01:55

72^F→birdy590: 那就是 link 433Mbps, 實測大概兩百多115.43.53.170 03/25 01:55

80^F推birdy590: Note 12 5G 以上是全系列都有115.43.53.170 03/25 14:50

81^F→birdy590: 所以看起來是有開倒車感覺沒啥道理115.43.53.170 03/25 15:04

82^F→birdy590: 因為現在零件的價差應該很小並不是萬元115.43.53.170 03/25 15:05

83^F→birdy590: 等級才有辦法裝配上去的功能115.43.53.170 03/25 15:05

[開箱] SanDisk Extreme 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen4x4

[ PC_Shopping ]31 留言, 推噓總分: +18

作者: AreLies - 發表於 2024/03/23 18:12(2月前)

8^F推birdy590: 保固十年沒意義 RMA也只會退錢殘值118.165.150.232 03/23 18:21

[情報] 別再給亞洲！季辛格：讓全球50％先進半導

[ PC_Shopping ]389 留言, 推噓總分: +137

作者: AquaChen1012 - 發表於 2024/03/21 14:44(2月前)

251^F推birdy590: GG光是蓋個廠都快被搞死, 50% 夢裡才有115.43.53.170 03/21 22:19

253^F→birdy590: 而且美國又不是沒廠結果是連美國的企業115.43.53.170 03/21 22:20

254^F→birdy590: 訂單都優先給GG, 被燙過會怕好嗎115.43.53.170 03/21 22:20

257^F→birdy590: 而且GG不靠拼價錢競爭補貼效果也不好115.43.53.170 03/21 22:21

339^F→birdy590: 先擺平當地工會再說~115.43.53.170 03/22 12:02

346^F→birdy590: 現在延誤只是建築業工會, 真正的工人115.43.53.170 03/22 12:18

347^F→birdy590: 根本還沒輪到他們出手咧115.43.53.170 03/22 12:18

[情報] 銘凡推出BD790i ITX搭載R9-7945HX處理器

[ PC_Shopping ]39 留言, 推噓總分: +15

作者: ultra120 - 發表於 2024/03/21 08:51(2月前)

39^F→birdy590: HX 只是有顯示, 780M 連一些3A都能玩115.43.53.170 03/21 22:44

3^F推birdy590: 確實是610M啊但這是要拼CPU GPU靠獨顯115.43.53.170 03/21 09:57

20^F推birdy590: 應該是 HX 和 HS 的差別~115.43.53.170 03/21 12:19

21^F→birdy590: 也有 7840HX/7940HX, 就一路往下面打115.43.53.170 03/21 12:20

37^F推birdy590: 筆電用HS有個好處就是可以關獨顯省電115.43.53.170 03/21 22:12

[心得] 兩家平台WIFI7心得

[ PC_Shopping ]27 留言, 推噓總分: +10

作者: hellshaman - 發表於 2024/03/20 10:35(2月前)

22^F推birdy590: 然後BE200和AMD不相容有可能是故意的~115.43.53.170 03/21 00:58

23^F→birdy590: AX200剛上市的時候也是不相容這看起來115.43.53.170 03/21 00:59

24^F→birdy590: 更像是驅動程式的問題115.43.53.170 03/21 00:59

25^F→birdy590: Intel 的重點還是在筆電方案, 沒必要幫115.43.53.170 03/21 01:00

26^F→birdy590: AMD 抬轎(尤其AMD已經選了MTK當合作夥伴115.43.53.170 03/21 01:00

27^F→birdy590: 剩下的零售市場可能小到看不到眼115.43.53.170 03/21 01:01

16^F→birdy590: 早就沒有什麼真mesh假mesh了115.43.53.170 03/20 23:39

17^F→birdy590: 幾年前高通做的事情也只是以WDS為基礎115.43.53.170 03/20 23:43

18^F→birdy590: 在 WIFI 主控增加一種模式可以同時互連115.43.53.170 03/20 23:43

19^F→birdy590: 並且接受終端連線115.43.53.170 03/20 23:43

20^F→birdy590: 其它廠商的舊硬體可能沒有支援, 用軟體115.43.53.170 03/20 23:45

21^F→birdy590: 方式硬湊出來這種可以叫假 mesh115.43.53.170 03/20 23:45

[心得] 華碩保固內不一定

[ PC_Shopping ]226 留言, 推噓總分: +26

作者: k211487 - 發表於 2024/03/18 18:04(2月前)

196^F→birdy590: 現在市售商品有全球保的應該很少115.43.53.170 03/19 03:02

212^F→birdy590: 先問賣家吧對岸要找人幫送至少還有機會115.43.53.170 03/19 12:39

213^F→birdy590: 就怕送回去也有問題這種事情115.43.53.170 03/19 12:40

214^F→birdy590: 張哥那邊確實上演很多次了115.43.53.170 03/19 12:40

215^F→birdy590: 二手市場水很深，返修卡/拼裝卡都算常見115.43.53.170 03/19 12:41

216^F→birdy590: 序號查有保固並不代表送進去就會收115.43.53.170 03/19 12:42

217^F→birdy590: 然後先進國家通常沒在精修, 工錢划不來115.43.53.170 03/19 12:43

[開箱] Minisforum銘凡HX77G(現為HX100G)

[ PC_Shopping ]423 留言, 推噓總分: +60

作者: littlethe - 發表於 2024/03/16 23:24(2月前)

1^F推birdy590: 之前研究過似乎遊戲筆電更有性價比115.43.53.170 03/16 23:35

52^F推birdy590: 因為電競筆電已經有 RTX4050/4060 了115.43.53.170 03/17 02:07

53^F→birdy590: 基本上硬體幾乎是一樣的--只是少了螢幕115.43.53.170 03/17 02:16

54^F→birdy590: 這台準系統在淘寶也要兩萬多同價位的115.43.53.170 03/17 02:17

55^F→birdy590: 遊戲本... 現在就有如果有活動會更便宜115.43.53.170 03/17 02:18

90^F→birdy590: 本來就是對岸牌當然首選是淘寶115.43.53.170 03/17 13:31

91^F→birdy590: 淘寶也比海外賣場便宜京東很多不賣台灣115.43.53.170 03/17 13:32

92^F→birdy590: 電源/線結帳前先問官方店都可以指定115.43.53.170 03/17 13:33

94^F→birdy590: 銘凡海外版都配大電源要加點錢但感覺穩115.43.53.170 03/17 13:36

95^F→birdy590: 準系統沒OS, 要買有RAM有SSD的才有115.43.53.170 03/17 13:37

97^F→birdy590: 之前有版友發現有廠牌配的不是正常授權~115.43.53.170 03/17 13:38

98^F→birdy590: 這種重灌應該會有問題要自己"想辦法"115.43.53.170 03/17 13:38

101^F→birdy590: 對岸遊戲本自己爬, 4060大概6000RMB起跳115.43.53.170 03/17 14:22

102^F→birdy590: 而且筆電不賣空機所以這是有RAM/SSD/OS115.43.53.170 03/17 14:23

136^F→birdy590: 去年很多人買刀碩天選4, 貴一點但有保固115.43.53.170 03/17 19:37

137^F→birdy590: 然後螢幕也比較好現在是有RMB五字頭的115.43.53.170 03/17 19:45

138^F→birdy590: 但是是可能連對岸使用者都不認識的牌子115.43.53.170 03/17 19:46

139^F→birdy590: 有興趣自己用"遊戲本 4060" 搜一下115.43.53.170 03/17 19:46

151^F→birdy590: 遊戲本的話應該就是直接玩了115.43.53.170 03/17 21:04

152^F→birdy590: 價格差不多性能更強甚至可能有保固115.43.53.170 03/17 21:05

153^F→birdy590: 本來應該是比較貴的但是去年真的殺很凶115.43.53.170 03/17 21:07

154^F→birdy590: 我覺得上面有些人顯然是錯過了這一段115.43.53.170 03/17 21:07

155^F→birdy590: 可以找去年雙十一有人寫的購物指引115.43.53.170 03/17 21:08

167^F→birdy590: 呃這種迷你主機實質上就是沒有螢幕115.43.53.170 03/17 21:23

168^F→birdy590: 鍵盤的筆電, 想要IO至少要DeskMini115.43.53.170 03/17 21:24

169^F→birdy590: 然後桌機零件也不一定會比較便宜115.43.53.170 03/17 21:25

170^F→birdy590: 從市場產品也很明顯, 有獨顯的迷你主機115.43.53.170 03/17 21:25

171^F→birdy590: 算是特殊產品也幾乎沒有人在做115.43.53.170 03/17 21:26

172^F→birdy590: 哪邊才是"很多人" 其實已經不證自明115.43.53.170 03/17 21:26

198^F→birdy590: Kaede5908 正確對岸遊戲本去年賣非常好115.43.53.170 03/17 22:52

199^F→birdy590: 性能跟桌機差距不遠而且殺成一片紅海115.43.53.170 03/17 22:53

200^F→birdy590: 去年雙11機械革命殺到五字頭, 還沒算券115.43.53.170 03/17 22:54

201^F→birdy590: 8000 起跳是啥鬼東西刀碩都沒賣這麼貴115.43.53.170 03/17 22:54

202^F→birdy590: HX100G 準系統就要4879, 銘凡不跟活動115.43.53.170 03/17 22:56

203^F→birdy590: 對台灣人還是刀碩最保險價差當保固都值115.43.53.170 03/17 23:00

205^F推birdy590: 要外接螢幕也不算什麼困難的事115.43.53.170 03/18 00:16

206^F→birdy590: 遊戲本配置大致上是4050配FHD,4060配2K115.43.53.170 03/18 00:17

207^F→birdy590: 要推外接螢幕性能要求很自然會更高115.43.53.170 03/18 00:17

208^F→birdy590: mini PC有人做但是少 eg:機械革命極生S115.43.53.170 03/18 00:21

209^F→birdy590: 極光S115.43.53.170 03/18 00:21

210^F→birdy590: 而且就停留在12代這代表應該賣的不怎樣115.43.53.170 03/18 00:29

219^F→birdy590: 市場直接證明有這種需求的人是極少數~115.43.53.170 03/18 00:42

220^F→birdy590: 剛才很認真的去爬了有做類似產品的115.43.53.170 03/18 00:43

221^F→birdy590: 只剩下雷神MIX, 還有一個連廠牌都沒有的115.43.53.170 03/18 00:43

225^F→birdy590: 原PO講的有件事是對的 UM780XTX 接顯卡115.43.53.170 03/18 00:44

226^F→birdy590: 除了拿來測試土砲 dock 外沒有實質效益115.43.53.170 03/18 00:44

237^F→birdy590: 我差不多已經把市場上所有選擇都攤開了115.43.53.170 03/18 00:50

238^F→birdy590: 跟筆電比是因為"零組件100% 相同"115.43.53.170 03/18 00:50

239^F→birdy590: 極光S i9-12900HX/16G/1T 5799115.43.53.170 03/18 00:52

244^F→birdy590: 雷神MIX i7-13620H/16G/1T 6199115.43.53.170 03/18 00:52

246^F→birdy590: 所以我們在討論一個只有四種產品的市場115.43.53.170 03/18 00:55

247^F→birdy590: 對照組: HX100G 16G/1T 5679115.43.53.170 03/18 01:01

250^F→birdy590: 當然很重要因為遊戲本市場不只十倍大115.43.53.170 03/18 01:04

255^F→birdy590: 加幾百塊台幣換 RTX4060 好像很香?115.43.53.170 03/18 01:04

256^F→birdy590: 但是市場接受度給我們答案了還是很難賣115.43.53.170 03/18 01:05

257^F→birdy590: 我的猜想是要一個人掏台幣兩萬多到三萬115.43.53.170 03/18 01:10

258^F→birdy590: 買一個沒有大廠單一零件掛就很容易報廢115.43.53.170 03/18 01:10

259^F→birdy590: 這樣的產品風險顯然有點高~115.43.53.170 03/18 01:11

260^F→birdy590: 淘寶上面賣土砲ITX小主機的選擇也比較多115.43.53.170 03/18 01:11

261^F→birdy590: 主機掛了顯卡拔下來還能用, 反之亦然115.43.53.170 03/18 01:12

264^F→birdy590: 才幾年? 忘了始祖是 NUC 嗎都停產了115.43.53.170 03/18 03:29

265^F→birdy590: 就算是對岸也是中低階小型機賣的最好115.43.53.170 03/18 03:29

275^F→birdy590: 現在哪裡有大打折? 就是沒活動也能比啊115.43.53.170 03/18 10:53

276^F→birdy590: 上面講的"土砲ITX" 其實更像迷你主機加115.43.53.170 03/18 10:53

277^F→birdy590: 一個桌機顯卡槽, 用的是桌上型的顯卡115.43.53.170 03/18 10:54

278^F→birdy590: 淘寶上面做這個的就多了連一些工控牌子115.43.53.170 03/18 10:54

279^F→birdy590: 也有注重空間的人有可能會選這種115.43.53.170 03/18 10:55

280^F→birdy590: 反正跟這些迷你主機比起來同樣是小廠115.43.53.170 03/18 10:55

281^F→birdy590: 沒有大廠參與想要往高階做是一定很困難115.43.53.170 03/18 10:56

282^F→birdy590: 就算上市消費者要下單前也會再三考慮115.43.53.170 03/18 10:56

283^F→birdy590: 一萬台幣大部份人可以當玩具看三萬不行115.43.53.170 03/18 10:57

316^F推birdy590: 補一下前幾天首發的, 8845HS+RTX4070115.43.53.170 03/18 23:38

317^F→birdy590: 16/512 6699 雖然說二線廠牌不建議115.43.53.170 03/18 23:41

318^F→birdy590: 但它做為價格破壞者會起很大的作用115.43.53.170 03/18 23:41

319^F→birdy590: 去年一波RTX4060大火拼是機械革命開的頭115.43.53.170 03/18 23:43

320^F→birdy590: 這牌台灣人陌生但迷你主機是UM780貼牌115.43.53.170 03/18 23:44

322^F→birdy590: 這只是報價參考又不是不能客製化115.43.53.170 03/19 00:14

323^F→birdy590: 最大的差別應該是筆電一般不賣空機115.43.53.170 03/19 00:14

324^F→birdy590: 有競爭才有便宜在這兩塊市場同樣都成立115.43.53.170 03/19 00:16

325^F→birdy590: 迷你主機火拼的戰場大概從n95到7840HS115.43.53.170 03/19 00:17

328^F→birdy590: 如果對手是 i7/i9 搭 RTX4060 呢?115.43.53.170 03/19 00:25

329^F→birdy590: 本業是遊戲本這種組合拿來下放比較正常115.43.53.170 03/19 00:26

332^F推birdy590: https://socpk.com/laptopgpucurve/115.43.53.170 03/19 00:54

333^F→birdy590: 能對標的是 4050, 而且能耗方面會吃虧115.43.53.170 03/19 00:54

335^F→birdy590: 呃這跟散熱能力也有關要做滿血不容易115.43.53.170 03/19 01:09

336^F→birdy590: 畢竟它配的整流器也才120W 不可能吃到飽115.43.53.170 03/19 01:11

341^F→birdy590: 安不安靜看模具~ 迷你主機自己做模具的115.43.53.170 03/19 01:21

342^F→birdy590: 廠商比遊戲本少很多~ 遊戲本還有公模115.43.53.170 03/19 01:21

343^F→birdy590: 所以其實是看什麼想要把料件拿一點過來115.43.53.170 03/19 01:21

346^F→birdy590: 遊戲本 8845HS+RTX4070/16/1T 首發6699115.43.53.170 03/19 01:24

348^F→birdy590: 是沒錯但是同價位如果差到兩級呢?115.43.53.170 03/19 01:24

349^F→birdy590: 其實現在是有沒有人想要降維打擊而已115.43.53.170 03/19 01:24

351^F→birdy590: 極光S i9-12900HX/16G/1T/4060 5799115.43.53.170 03/19 01:25

353^F→birdy590: 像這個就是迷你機啊遊戲本廠商下來做的115.43.53.170 03/19 01:25

355^F→birdy590: 對其實大部份人都選ITX(還有土砲ITX)115.43.53.170 03/19 01:26

356^F→birdy590: 那種迷你主機外殼裡搞一個顯卡槽的115.43.53.170 03/19 01:26

358^F→birdy590: 其實我也覺得對一般人來說這更靠譜115.43.53.170 03/19 01:27

360^F→birdy590: 很明顯現在這塊市場上面廠商看不上眼115.43.53.170 03/19 01:29

361^F→birdy590: 不然其實遊戲本零件再搞個公模就能上了115.43.53.170 03/19 01:30

362^F→birdy590: 4070 有螢幕有鍵盤可以賣 6699115.43.53.170 03/19 01:32

365^F推birdy590: 這沒錯啊所以主要戰場根本就不在獨顯115.43.53.170 03/19 01:34

366^F→birdy590: 問題上面講過了顯卡佔整機成本一半以上115.43.53.170 03/19 01:34

367^F→birdy590: 而且後面沒有大廠支撐, 風險是相對高115.43.53.170 03/19 01:35

368^F→birdy590: 遊戲本有一堆一線廠商所以就活絡很多115.43.53.170 03/19 01:35

369^F→birdy590: 便宜迷你電腦這方面是可以忽略的程度115.43.53.170 03/19 01:35

370^F→birdy590: 我這一年自己/幫人前後已經買了四五台115.43.53.170 03/19 01:36

372^F→birdy590: 空機一萬以內就賭它生命週期內不出問題115.43.53.170 03/19 01:37

[情報] ROG NUC 搭載 RTX4070 售價2499歐元

[ PC_Shopping ]64 留言, 推噓總分: +31

作者: ultra120 - 發表於 2024/03/18 13:23(2月前)

52^F→birdy590: 一整個貢潘仔的定價115.43.53.170 03/19 00:38

[情報] SSD狂漲有廠商卻不高興!群聯警告傷害市場

[ PC_Shopping ]157 留言, 推噓總分: +65

作者: ultra120 - 發表於 2024/03/13 08:57(2月前)

18^F推birdy590: 觀察確實沒錯架上有三根 2TB, 不會再買115.43.53.170 03/13 09:34

19^F→birdy590: 當時價格現在只能買 1TB, 當等等黨正常115.43.53.170 03/13 09:35

[閒聊]AMD顯卡可以跑CUDA程式，那就不必特地買N

[ PC_Shopping ]55 留言, 推噓總分: +19

作者: amduser - 發表於 2024/03/01 22:39(3月前)

12^F→birdy590: non-production115.43.53.170 03/01 23:57

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