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8F推:1.江表傳是吳史,而對照蜀書馬上打槍,荊南四郡是劉備打的06/11 13:17
9F→:換句話說"假使"真有借,也只是口頭承認討個便宜而已06/11 13:18
10F→:其次周瑜此時根本跟曹仁打的咪咪毛毛,去哪打荊南來借?06/11 13:19
11F→:你的推文回應還是一樣難以理解,要說也是跟孫權說,找劉備?06/11 13:20
33F→:客觀說你一遇到意見跟你不同其實就開始放中大絕了,修養真06/11 18:09
34F→:的不能算非常好沒錯,光是不認同你就叫找碴?06/11 18:10
35F→:依這裡過去的慘烈戰況來看,其實還沒有人算在找你碴喔XD06/11 18:12
20F→:史書引用自己要注意前因後果跟相對可信度,不是一句只挑自06/11 03:53
21F→:己相信,赤壁敗於疾病魏蜀吳同時記載可信度就比較高06/11 03:55
22F→:劉備得荊州是自己打下來的,他也沒有對孫權低頭之意06/11 03:55
23F→:會對孫吳搞這種低姿態動作本身就比較不合理06/11 03:56
25F推:誰吃人夠夠很明顯是孫權,借荊州是怎麼回事我在之前就回過06/11 00:18
27F→:孫權私自把荊州視為口中肥肉,被曹仁扁完才在眼紅劉備拿下06/11 00:20
28F→:荊南,借荊州第一次只是借口頭承認實為和談之舉06/11 00:21
29F→:第二次是放棄狹長領土把防線壓力轉給劉備負責06/11 00:21
30F→:益州啥的講難聽點就是孫權在和談協商後仍然死性不改想偷06/11 00:22
32F→:做小動作被打槍而已;呂蒙基本上是戰略眼光短淺的人06/11 00:23
35F→:只見眼前利益,卻沒去考慮國際情勢..還是他早知孫權強運?06/11 00:24
52F推:不要回不了就放大絕,很難看也沒有意義06/11 00:42
53F→:呂蒙被罵到翻天的問題就在他的眼睛只能看到有機會搶荊州06/11 00:43
55F→:卻完全沒有想到搶了荊州再來會怎樣,要怎麼辦06/11 00:44
57F→:要不是孫權強運+曹丕腦殘,等到蜀軍在東曹軍渡江直逼,孫權06/11 00:44
59F→:就會改口指著呂蒙鼻子痛罵子明誤我一生06/11 00:45
66F→:蜀軍在西,打錯了..orz06/11 00:50
67F→:連魏人都認為劉備一定翻臉,只是曹丕腦殘猶豫不決06/11 00:51
70F→:孫權沒被兩面夾擊只能說上輩子積福太多這輩子超強運06/11 00:52
73F→:第三點就是他腦殘的地方,守得住就不用去抱曹丕要他別打06/11 00:53
74F→:劉備被勸住+魏軍不打也可說是發牌就兩組同花順+三張二06/11 00:56
75F→:總不會有人還沒發牌就相信會拿這種牌然後全下吧06/11 00:57
82F→:你搞錯前因後果了好不好..-__-..能避開兩面作戰就是因為06/11 03:57
83F→:曹丕腦殘猶豫不決錯失良機,讓他有機會跟劉備慢慢打06/11 03:58
84F→:這不是事前能知道的事,曹丕會發兵南下才是主流意見06/11 03:59
85F→:呂蒙被後人罵就是因為他根本不像有考慮到兩面作戰的危機06/11 04:00
86F→:而孫權也跟著腦充血才會撩下去,事後強運不代表決定是對的06/11 04:00
87F→:夷陵之戰後蜀軍消耗過大+劉備死亡,蜀軍暫時已無再戰能力06/11 04:02
88F→:不然孫權絕對會繼續抱曹丕大腿直到蜀國退兵06/11 04:02
99F→:會可以守是強運,最好有人重大決定是用強運當籌碼啦06/11 13:21
101F→:可禦?如果孫權真的這樣認為那就真的腦殘+自大到家了06/11 13:22
103F→:他全力以赴都在合肥被打的雞毛鴨血了06/11 13:23
105F→:如果他真的自信到他能同時抵擋兩面,那合理的決策是配合06/11 13:23
106F→:關羽北伐吸住曹軍,用那足以應付兩面的強大軍力往北打06/11 13:24
107F→:換句話說,如果他不能兩面作戰,這決定是白目06/11 13:25
108F→:如果他自信能兩面作戰,這決策還是一樣白目06/11 13:25
109F→:從他決定放著真正敵人不管還幫對方削弱盟友時,腦就有礙了06/11 13:26
122F→:那是強運,如果我手下用強運當決策原因,我會讓他去吃自己06/11 18:07
123F→:結果沒出事不代表決策是對的,靠強運過關不是領導者該做的06/11 18:08
125F→:你那是後人檢討結果的結果論,跟事前是否合理是兩回事06/12 13:41
126F→:不然曹操打贏早就把勸他別打的人通通送去苦窯了06/12 13:42
127F→:衛覬勸曹操不要故意刺激西涼諸將,曹操不聽引起韓馬之叛06/12 13:47
128F→:結果結果是魏軍戰勝西涼底定的好結果,他還是更重視衛覬06/12 13:47
129F→:照你的說法,因為魏軍打贏了所以衛覬的意見就是不正確06/12 13:48
130F→:他幹嘛後悔當初不聽衛覬之言?06/12 13:49
3F→:我是跑到憤青板了嗎?05/31 00:32
2F推:就算是現在淡水魚一樣不建議生食,現代醫療可以救05/27 07:44
1F→:戲志才正史也才一句而已,要掰也沒搞頭當然是省略掉啦04/11 00:04
2F→:我本來很期待陳某火鳳會讓他登場的說,高評價又沒紀錄的04/11 00:05
3F→:角色正好讓他隨意發揮,不過看起來是不會出現了04/11 00:06
3F推:演義直接看原版的版本即可,三國志的話我是都看線上版啦..03/05 04:27
26F→:通篇廢話...要玩繞口令跟無意義文字遊戲自己去架blog02/24 01:09
1F推:其實還是有牌,只是還在南方需要等02/18 08:14
1F→:除非是長期攻城,沒人在帶那種巨大垃圾01/21 22:38
2F→:司馬懿是在平原不是樹林紮營,火攻效果有限;對方死守不動01/21 22:39
3F→:硬攻容易吃虧,司馬懿不敢會戰死龜不出就是寧可用被動防守01/21 22:41