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Re: [討論] 劉備為什麼不留呂布?

[ Chan_Mou ]31 留言, 推噓總分: +19

作者: realmiddle - 發表於 2008/09/02 00:46(17年前)

4^F→amaranth:美國要你不可報怨,只好說我們以德服人啦..orz09/02 07:46

11^F推amaranth:孔子說要以直報怨;報仇是可以的,不要太超過就好09/02 11:44

28^F推amaranth:直是公正,為何要報以德或怨?對方公正待你禮尚往來就好了09/03 07:54

30^F推amaranth:是我說的不是孔夫子說的,沒有公信力喔,參考就好09/03 18:27

Re: [討論] 劉備為什麼不留呂布?

[ Chan_Mou ]8 留言, 推噓總分: +5

作者: godivan - 發表於 2008/09/01 22:34(17年前)

5^F推amaranth:保張遼曹張兩人都領情,保呂呂會婊你,曹會擔心09/01 23:12

Re: [討論] 劉備為什麼不留呂布?

[ Chan_Mou ]9 留言, 推噓總分: +2

作者: amaranth - 發表於 2008/09/01 17:29(17年前)

6^F→amaranth:曹操會試圖包圍對方,我不認為曹軍會少到哪裡去喔09/02 07:43

7^F→amaranth:史書只寫戰於匡亭退回封丘,其他內容是該書作者另有來源吧09/02 07:44

8^F→amaranth:二袁是雙重遠交近攻XD,交外人對付近親..orz09/02 07:46

Re: [討論] 劉備為什麼不留呂布?

[ Chan_Mou ]17 留言, 推噓總分: +8

作者: kea - 發表於 2008/09/01 07:05(17年前)

1^F推amaranth:歷史上張繡是吃不下來不是想留啦...後來張繡在官渡前投靠09/01 08:14

11^F推amaranth:報父仇的背後目的是搶地盤,殺子仇人他咬過只是還啃不下09/01 15:58

13^F→amaranth:後來在情勢吃緊時帶鎗投靠你好意思殺?張繡也很識相一投靠09/01 15:59

14^F→amaranth:馬上拚命在官渡跟二袁戰役大大立功,曹操氣就差不多消啦09/01 16:00

Re: [討論] 之後的故事走向

[ Chan_Mou ]4 留言, 推噓總分: +4

作者: orzQQ - 發表於 2008/08/30 10:57(17年前)

3^F推amaranth:官渡打不打可由不得阿瞞啊,是看袁紹打不打08/30 16:25

Re: [有雷] 火鳳燎原第261回《戰神修為》有雷

[ Chan_Mou ]29 留言, 推噓總分: +17

作者: ianlin45 - 發表於 2008/08/26 08:14(17年前)

26^F推amaranth:呂布如果不是董卓方我不認為他能結束,那是位子的問題08/26 18:06

Re: [討論] 徐州大屠殺對曹操真的有利嗎?

[ Chan_Mou ]15 留言, 推噓總分: +8

作者: Ronane - 發表於 2008/08/06 12:23(17年前)

12^F推amaranth:以前狗是護家打獵的重要工具,不是養來玩的所以地位不同08/06 22:07

Re: [討論] 張遼為何會降曹操？

[ Chan_Mou ]30 留言, 推噓總分: +15

作者: fatisuya - 發表於 2008/07/21 23:12(17年前)

5^F推amaranth:當時曹操被視為漢朝救星,荀彧等尊漢派也是依附在他底下07/21 23:40

Re: [討論] 二公子幹掉八奇第一人(雷)

[ Chan_Mou ]22 留言, 推噓總分: +15

作者: Atwo - 發表於 2008/07/03 21:29(17年前)

15^F推amaranth:曹操到死都不算太重用他,重用他的是不成才的兒子XD07/04 06:32

[哈啦] 孫乾人咧？？

[ Chan_Mou ]19 留言, 推噓總分: +16

作者: realmiddle - 發表於 2008/07/01 14:31(17年前)

10^F推amaranth:他是跟著劉備環遊世界的早期幹部喔...07/01 16:36

16^F推amaranth:戲志才是很好利用的半架空角色說,可惜陳某沒利用07/02 00:50

17^F→amaranth:評價高(他死後才找郭嘉接手軍師)又無歷史紀錄(只有人名)07/02 00:52

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