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10F推: 可樂大被戰辛苦了，不過蜀漢在史料上常吃虧，常有啞巴吃黃08/21 01:26
11F→: 蓮的苦處(借荊州、吳碭袁龍"首尾關羽"都算)，未必是關羽主08/21 01:28
12F→: 動挑釁，但這樣就會如可樂大所說的"刺刺長再戰三萬字"。不08/21 01:30
13F→: 過劉備確實可以對孫劉同盟更有誠意(從吳方史料看)，而不是08/21 01:31
14F→: 說拿了涼州再還荊州、對四越巢湖的曹孫大戰不聞不問08/21 01:32
22F→: 我可沒說劉備應該不計代價幫孫權，我是說史料上吳國指責劉08/21 02:33
23F→: 備實在太容易發揮了(史料優勢)，譬如吳方甚至可以自誇曾在08/21 02:34
24F→: 劉備取益州時派呂岱去"幫忙"(吳範傳)，但蜀方卻拿不出史料08/21 02:35
25F→: 說劉備曾在曹操四越巢湖時派誰助孫？可以說蜀漢無史官，因08/21 02:38
26F→: 此啞巴吃黃蓮08/21 02:38
20F→: 太過質詢及攻擊性的口氣，並不適合討論08/20 21:33
39F推: 推呂蒙美麗的夢想08/20 15:14
10F→: 唉，何必一味強調呂蒙腦殘？他就是說出孫權想聽的話、迎合08/18 20:48
11F→: 上意，說不定還對自己在內的吳將有高度自信，結果卻早死08/18 20:49
12F→: 我在本版9345篇(#1F_6XtaW)的內容也許對原PO有幫助08/18 20:52
16F推: 217年之後孫權開始"獨斷化"的集權政策，只有迎合上意才能08/18 20:59
17F→: 在吳國政壇上位，違背孫權意願的人只會被架空或冷處理08/18 21:01
18F→: 看了哈特曼兄架空史版的文章之後，還是提醒一下：徐州不是08/18 21:11
19F→: 合肥，臧霸不是張遼，更不是張爸08/18 21:13
62F→: 夷陵戰後曹丕明顯已經派軍重占了前所放棄的襄陽，魏吳荊州08/19 14:01
63F→: 交界的無人緩衝區因此消失，陸遜判斷曹軍實力已回復或超越08/19 14:03
64F→: 曹操中期(212-216年)的最強水準，能夠大軍南下打南郡，因08/19 14:05
65F→: 此主張將吳軍主力北調防曹，結果曹真速度太快，當月破吳軍08/19 14:11
66F→: 包圍江陵城，陸遜反而為防劉備而不敢離開西線的宜陵08/19 14:12
78F→: 希望大都督不要出來鬧，看了會吐血08/19 20:01
2F推: 推08/01 20:38
22F推: 補推08/20 02:51
43F→: 可樂大還真的是很討厭袁紹阿...06/28 00:20
50F推: 我在4546篇(代碼：#13h1GV-4)的古早文章，算是對袁紹"同情06/28 11:44
51F→: 的理解"，另外力推CVC兄的4557篇(#13hbtcF-)，剖析曹方對06/28 11:46
52F→: 袁紹「性遲而多疑」(郭嘉之評)的抹黑。此外，曹操也寬縱曹06/28 11:52
53F→: 洪的貪贓枉法，實在沒資格指責袁紹對審配的寬縱06/28 11:55
56F→: 那篇文章結構鬆散又隨性、論述不縝密，加上是翻案文章，現07/02 20:26
57F→: 在回頭來看，沒多少人注意是正常。不過現在要我像幫劉表翻07/02 20:27
58F→: 案那樣，幫袁紹重寫一篇完整的翻案文，我也沒有新梗了XD07/02 20:30
59F→: 我是說我自己的文章鬆散，跟CVC兄無關 = ="07/02 20:37
3F推: 居然是教主 朝聖推02/28 21:39
10F推:史料不足、推論合理，大致推。不過就算審配是在演戲，能夠10/07 01:05
11F→:演技精湛到騙倒孔融和《先賢行狀》的作者(晉人)，可稱影帝10/07 01:08
20F推:劉表與袁紹的長幼之爭，外形相似、內情相異，很難比較。袁10/07 21:48
21F→:紹的地方高官都是子甥等外來人(袁熙、高幹)，劉表的地方高10/07 21:50
22F→:官似乎都是荊州人，到末期才出現一個江夏太守劉琦(兗州人)10/07 21:58
23F推:預設荊州大族是鐵板一塊的派系，本身就有問題，事實上荊州10/08 00:28
24F→:更可能是互不咬弦，讓劉表分化合縱、使喚威嚇。劉表的骨幹10/08 00:42
25F→:是建安八年「零落的諸將」，以及子侄劉磐、劉琦、劉脩等人10/08 00:50
26F→:，劉表的"諸將"可能有一些外來人，但更重要的是諸將和子侄10/08 00:54
27F→:有精兵在手，穩穩地控制荊州各地，所以即使外來將領和子侄10/08 00:55
28F→:劉磐沒有官位，也不影響劉表對荊州的強力統治(兵力來自劉表10/08 00:57
29F→:初至荊州時所收編的宗黨部曲)10/08 00:59
30F推:忘記補充劉表有個能戰的姪子叫劉虎，五千長矛軍就是他帶的10/08 01:05
31F→:另外劉表手下的主從關係也很明確，荊州大族的要殺要廢，都10/08 01:19
32F→:在他的一念之間，可能是南陽最大族的張氏(張溫一族)，就被10/08 01:20
33F→:他殺掉張羨和張津兩個人10/08 01:20
40F→:蒯、蔡對劉表忠心耿耿，又沒得罪他，沒有理由去滅蒯、蔡10/10 01:44
41F→:蔡夫人和蔡瑁、張允非常會討好劉表，才藉著劉表的權力在荊10/10 01:48
42F→:州狐假虎威，進而呼風喚雨，這也是因為建安八年劉表的前妻10/10 01:51
43F→:過世的關係。(後漢書：「表寵耽後妻，每信受焉。又妻弟蔡瑁10/10 01:52
44F→:外甥張允並得幸於(劉)表」，說的很清楚：「得幸於劉表」)10/10 01:53
59F→:張羨可能是被劉表攻圍時得病，也算是間接被劉表逼死10/12 00:21
17F→:對於外寬內忌，我懷疑是陳壽刻意發明去貶低他不喜歡的人，09/19 11:56
18F→:如姜維、袁紹、劉表，是唯一被形容為"外寬內忌"的受害者09/19 11:57