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Re: [爆卦] 蔡正員戰車

[ PublicIssue ]14 留言, 推噓總分: +4

作者: t72312 - 發表於 2014/04/26 19:09(10年前)

3^F推Shalone:這起事件最可怕的地方在於有員警在第一時間目睹案發，竟然04/26 19:25

4^F→Shalone:沒有積極作為，連喝止停車都辦不到……04/26 19:26

Re: [政治] 有關公投門檻請教

[ PublicIssue ]76 留言, 推噓總分: -16

作者: chimong62 - 發表於 2014/04/26 18:04(10年前)

64^F→Shalone:滿腦子只有藍綠的廢文04/26 19:27

[爆卦] 蔡正員戰車

[ PublicIssue ]44 留言, 推噓總分: +30

作者: s52937463 - 發表於 2014/04/26 18:04(10年前)

26^F推Shalone:下班XDDD04/26 19:33

Re: [政治] 有關公投門檻請教

[ PublicIssue ]8 留言, 推噓總分: -1

作者: MoneyMonkey - 發表於 2014/04/26 13:47(10年前)

4^F→Shalone:樓上沒錯啊……這就是公投的大問題啊04/26 17:26

5^F→Shalone:同樣的議題正反兩方的意見居然都被否決那民意到是三小？04/26 17:26

Re: [政治] 有關公投門檻請教

[ PublicIssue ]118 留言, 推噓總分: +9

作者: Guyinkt - 發表於 2014/04/26 11:54(10年前)

88^F噓Shalone:你如果活在烏托邦，沒錯50%甚至更高的投票門檻是合理的04/26 17:18

89^F→Shalone:但現實就是，反對的人可以綁架不表態的人直接否決議題04/26 17:18

90^F→Shalone:不表態本來就是說：你們要決定啥我都沒差，我的意思就是都04/26 17:20

91^F→Shalone:可以。那為什麼這些不表態的人直接等同於否決議案呢？04/26 17:21

92^F→Shalone:今天為了避開一些棄權的人：是因為不可抗力的因素，或是選04/26 17:21

93^F→Shalone:擇被局限而消極抗議，設定一個門檻以確保投票數的基本盤04/26 17:22

94^F→Shalone:這樣做是可以理解，甚至可說合情合理的04/26 17:22

95^F→Shalone:但設成50%？這就根本是袒護反對方而已04/26 17:23

96^F→Shalone:之前的文你都不看就是了當選總統需要689w票，現行公投通04/26 17:24

97^F→Shalone:過要找900w人來贊成，你還在跟我跳針？04/26 17:24

Re:[政治] 有關公投門檻請教

[ PublicIssue ]50 留言, 推噓總分: +34

作者: hank61204 - 發表於 2014/04/26 03:31(10年前)

45^F推Shalone:04/26 17:03

Re:[政治] 有關公投門檻請教

[ PublicIssue ]44 留言, 推噓總分: +12

作者: eighchin - 發表於 2014/04/26 03:17(10年前)

39^F推Shalone:黃國昌老師有分享過公投審議會的事情。上次旺中併購案，有04/26 05:59

40^F→Shalone:人(也許是蔡英文)號召找了10萬人連署，希望將這議題交付公04/26 06:00

41^F→Shalone:投。命題不知道改了幾次，都是被公審會退退回去，不予公投04/26 06:02

42^F→Shalone:成案。結果號召人一氣就將審議會告上法庭，過了2年吧，法04/26 06:03

43^F→Shalone:院判決公審會敗訴。04/26 06:03

44^F→Shalone:但實質上呢？法院即使還了個公道，但這公投要去哪裡再來？04/26 06:04

[政治] 有關公投門檻請教

[ PublicIssue ]206 留言, 推噓總分: +44

作者: Guyinkt - 發表於 2014/04/26 02:46(10年前)

185^F推Shalone:6個成功辦過的公投，其中5個的贊成反對比是9:1，但每一個04/26 05:51

186^F→Shalone:的公投結果都是否決，你還是覺得沒問題吧？04/26 05:52

187^F→Shalone:這種設計就是造成反對者只要不去領票，就可以躺著等否決04/26 05:52

[環保][討論] 民進黨立委凱道前靜坐

[ PublicIssue ]20 留言, 推噓總分: -4

作者: ccc73123 - 發表於 2014/04/26 02:28(10年前)

16^F噓Shalone:1）週末，立委參與靜坐有什麼問題？又不是拋下工作跑來04/26 05:40

17^F→Shalone:2)國民黨掌握立法院多數決，說難聽一點，國民黨天天表演甲04/26 05:41

18^F→Shalone:級動員，黨主席馬英九天天表演黨紀綁人，反對的立委就真的04/26 05:41

19^F→Shalone:只剩下杯葛跟靜坐抗議兩條路而已04/26 05:42

[討論] 最近一些難以接受的事

[ PublicIssue ]142 留言, 推噓總分: +42

作者: kaze1225 - 發表於 2014/04/26 01:18(10年前)

87^F推Shalone:我必須很悲哀的說，這些明明不同的議題，總是有個人有辦法04/26 05:35

88^F→Shalone:搞得大家面臨同一個問題：罔顧民意執意獨裁04/26 05:36

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