[新聞] Tesla Model 3 五年花費低於 Camry

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圖片翻譯: Purchase Price = 車價 Financing = 貸款利息 Tax, Title, and License = 牌照稅 Insurance = 保險費 Fuel/Electricity = 油費/電費 Maintenance/Repairs = 維修保養費 Total = 五年總花費 Resale Value = 五年剩餘車價 Total = 五年總花費減去剩餘車價 Cost Per Mile = 開一英里所需費用 原文連結: https://loupventures.com/tesla-model-3-cost-of-ownership-slightly-cheaper-than -a-camry/ 原文內容: We’ve updated our 5-year cost of ownership study comparing a Tesla Model 3 to a Toyota Camry. The comparison gives us a look at how the Model 3 cost compar es to a mass-market sedan. The original study from 2017 can be found温ere. In 2017, our model concluded that while the Model 3 value proposition was weig hed down by a 40% sale price premium, it would end up costing 13% more to own and operate over 5 years than a Toyota Camry LE. In 2019, we found the purchase price gap has widened to 59% ($35k Model 3 has not come to fruition), but the cost of ownership gap has also widened to 18% f rom 13%. Importantly, factoring in the澑esale value漑f the two vehicles (benefit of an EV is their ability to retain value), the Model 3 becomes 5% cheaper on a cost per mile basis. The bottom line: Model 3 is a superior car (electric, safer, Autopilot) compar ed to a Camry, and is slightly cheaper to own and operate over 5 years. Average all-in cost per mile for a Model 3 is $0.46, compared to the Camry LE at $0.49, and Audi A5 at $0.80. Here are the notable changes from the previous model: The Model 3 purchase price increased. Our previous model anticipated a $35K Mo del 3 would be in the market, which hasn’t came to fruition. The entry-level Model 3 today is $38,900. The Camry LE price was essentially unchanged. We’re now factoring in resale value in our model. Gas prices increased 16% since our 2017 study. We continue to expect a 5% annu al increase. Model 3 insurance is lower by 9%. We are shifting to a finance option. Previously we used a lease option. This s lightly and uniformly increased interest payments for each car. Luxury Status As the Model 3 is still considered to be a luxury sedan, we compared it to ano ther luxury vehicle of similar cost. When compared to an Audi A5, the Model 3 was 12% cheaper upfront but over 5 years is 32% cheaper to operate (42% cheape r with resale value included). While we still believe the Model 3 has the perk s of a luxury vehicle, it’s evident that it can maintain those features at a significantly lower cost. Cost of Insurance The cost difference between insuring a Tesla Model 3 and a Camry LE is less th an you might think. The average cost per year of insuring a Tesla Model 3 is $ 1,128 today, while the average cost to insure a Camry LE is $1,212. Research s uggests that Tesla Model 3s are categorized by insurance companies as luxury v ehicles, while the Camry LE is not. Our estimates show that the first two year s of insurance will run you about $100 a month, with the third and fourth year dropping to $90 a month. This price reduction is correlated with Tesla’s rum ored internal insurance program which is projected to begin this summer in Nor th America, as it has already launched in both Australia and China. The goal w ith Tesla’s insurance program is to match rates of the lowest competitor. We predict that the price to insure a Camry over the next 5 years will increase a t a rate of 0.5%. Based on our model, we predict the average difference in ins urance costs over a 5-year ownership span to be $420 less for a Tesla than a C amry. The car insurance game itself is a data operation and there just isn’t enough current data on Tesla to justify the low insurance costs they should receive based on their safety ratings. We see this transformation happening in two way s; insurance companies who see the value in Tesla’s safety rating and lower t heir rate accordingly, and Tesla owners beginning to use Tesla’s branded insu rance. Looking to the Future We believe that our model is conservative and that there is still room for the Model 3 to become even cheaper to own. We decided not to include the US EV ta x credit due to the fact that it will be phased out completely by the end of t his year. However, there is an opportunity for new incentives to be introduced . We believe Tesla will shed its status as a premium luxury vehicle that is co ntributing to higher insurance and financing rates. As EV ownership grows and there is more data on their cost, we expect the long-term value proposition to shine through. 心得/說明:(30字以上) 在美國買車養車五年後,如果賣掉,實際五年的花費 Model 3 比原車價便宜一萬鎂以上 的 Camry 還省。如果套在台灣,156萬的 Model 3 五年花費應該跟130萬的各種油電車有 得拼。 這個比較沒有算進任何的電動車補助, 算是很公平的比較方式。 用電的確比用油便宜很多。 Model 3 真的沒什麼保養費用, 我猜$1200裡面有800-1000是輪胎。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 101.12.1.29 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/car/M.1565925823.A.61C.html

08/16 11:27, 4年前 , 1F
說到底 如果自家能充電 能在晚上充 不用繞路去充電去等
08/16 11:27, 1F
※ 編輯: hanchueh (101.12.1.29 臺灣), 08/16/2019 11:27:34

08/16 11:27, 4年前 , 2F
用電車是划算的
08/16 11:27, 2F

08/16 11:31, 4年前 , 3F
連個內文簡易翻譯都沒有,Scape有誠意的多
08/16 11:31, 3F

08/16 11:31, 4年前 , 4F
懶得全翻就置重點就好
08/16 11:31, 4F
內文就是解釋那張圖而已,看得懂圖就簡單明瞭。

08/16 11:33, 4年前 , 5F
我覺得這樣算有個盲點 我先說我自己的算法好了
08/16 11:33, 5F

08/16 11:34, 4年前 , 6F
如果用lease來算就不用考慮五年殘值
08/16 11:34, 6F

08/16 11:34, 4年前 , 7F
2017開賣 五年到了嗎
08/16 11:34, 7F
這是一家以研究結果主導方向的投資公司做的,實際五年當然還沒到,但是折舊率、貸款 利潤這些都有了,剩下的也當然可以估的出來,如果都估不了那這家投資公司要怎麼運作 ... ※ 編輯: hanchueh (101.12.1.29 臺灣), 08/16/2019 11:50:28

08/16 11:36, 4年前 , 8F
model 3 約483 camry 約209 三年差約9864
08/16 11:36, 8F

08/16 11:36, 4年前 , 9F
model3 古中價比camry高了約1成, 有那麼高?
08/16 11:36, 9F

08/16 11:38, 4年前 , 10F
一台中古賣48%, 一台中古賣36%
08/16 11:38, 10F

08/16 11:38, 4年前 , 11F
如果把其他費用加進去 電車五年大概是便宜8,135
08/16 11:38, 11F

08/16 11:39, 4年前 , 12F
我把這五年電車便宜的價格算回三年 跟 lease的價格比
08/16 11:39, 12F

08/16 11:40, 4年前 , 13F
camry 整個package大概會便宜4000/5000
08/16 11:40, 13F

08/16 11:42, 4年前 , 14F
我上面說的lease 價格都是網站查相似車款 相近首付
08/16 11:42, 14F

08/16 11:43, 4年前 , 15F
due at sign 3500 36期 每個月的價格單位美金
08/16 11:43, 15F

08/16 11:45, 4年前 , 16F
我順手查了目前五年camry 價格大約在12000-14000間
08/16 11:45, 16F

08/16 11:46, 4年前 , 17F
如果算12000的話 在這個計算中還是比 model3便宜一點
08/16 11:46, 17F

08/16 11:52, 4年前 , 18F
油車出遠門只要找加油站 不用找充電樁
08/16 11:52, 18F

08/16 11:52, 4年前 , 19F
台灣出遠門也沒多遠 夠用啦
08/16 11:52, 19F

08/16 11:53, 4年前 , 20F
我喜歡電車.家有三台狗肉.但電車在台灣還有很長的路要走
08/16 11:53, 20F

08/16 11:59, 4年前 , 21F
Resale根本亂估,toyota保值得很
08/16 11:59, 21F

08/16 12:00, 4年前 , 22F
我手上有一台神A 有人要跟我換特斯拉嗎 你貼一萬就好
08/16 12:00, 22F

08/16 12:01, 4年前 , 23F
呃,這兩台大小沒有差嗎?
08/16 12:01, 23F

08/16 12:02, 4年前 , 24F
model 3少了人家一顆引擎和一顆變速箱,還少了尾管,怎麼比?
08/16 12:02, 24F

08/16 12:06, 4年前 , 25F
尾管看你要四出還是八出土炮,都有的改喔
08/16 12:06, 25F

08/16 12:10, 4年前 , 26F
鬼島有鬼島的玩法
08/16 12:10, 26F

08/16 12:10, 4年前 , 27F
真的有人會買二手電車嗎
08/16 12:10, 27F

08/16 12:15, 4年前 , 28F
特斯拉一過保固修車錢絕對很可觀
08/16 12:15, 28F

08/16 12:16, 4年前 , 29F
小毛病很多 等料等到死
08/16 12:16, 29F

08/16 12:17, 4年前 , 30F
你算不到打五折阿~
08/16 12:17, 30F

08/16 12:17, 4年前 , 31F
五年花費在台灣應該還是比較省,殘值在台灣要高,特斯
08/16 12:17, 31F

08/16 12:17, 4年前 , 32F
拉要自己搞中古交易
08/16 12:17, 32F

08/16 12:18, 4年前 , 33F
特斯拉應該不容易有小毛病
08/16 12:18, 33F

08/16 12:18, 4年前 , 34F
過保:電子產品過保不維修唷,給你買新車折扣,科科
08/16 12:18, 34F

08/16 12:18, 4年前 , 35F
外國toyota 折舊也太誇張
08/16 12:18, 35F

08/16 12:18, 4年前 , 36F
哪來的應該!是就是,不是就不是。不確定就不要提了
08/16 12:18, 36F
還有 63 則推文
還有 7 段內文
08/16 16:22, 4年前 , 100F
就算我們不考慮resale 像上面提到我用lease成本去算
08/16 16:22, 100F

08/16 16:23, 4年前 , 101F
model 3對camry 根本沒優勢 更不用說大小相近的神A
08/16 16:23, 101F
Corolla Sedan: 4630mm x 1730mm 1340kg Camry: 4885mm x 1840mm 1495 kg Model 3: 4694mm x 1850mm 1645kg 神A長度 Camry寬度 比兩台都重

08/16 16:25, 4年前 , 102F
而且現在是2019五年車要找2015的比較對
08/16 16:25, 102F

08/16 16:26, 4年前 , 103F
我覺得電車算上補助一定比較便宜 但是這個算法
08/16 16:26, 103F

08/16 16:26, 4年前 , 104F
太放大油車的成本忽略電車的成本了
08/16 16:26, 104F

08/16 16:36, 4年前 , 105F
http://0rz.tw/338g3 這篇不管在任何成本的預估上都比較
08/16 16:36, 105F

08/16 16:37, 4年前 , 106F
合理 不過如果你堅持己見也就算了 XDDDD
08/16 16:37, 106F

08/16 16:37, 4年前 , 107F
08/16 16:37, 107F
你選了一個高級住宅區,當然價錢比較高。 Apex, NC 每戶年收入中位數是$89,392。 全美中位數是$53,482。 台灣中位數是62.6萬台幣。 還有我用的是 Trade-in Value,也就是車商會收的價錢,保證賣得掉。你用的是私人買 價,通常一般人賣車會從你那個數字開始殺,但不會殺超過我這個數字。 ※ 編輯: hanchueh (101.12.1.29 臺灣), 08/16/2019 16:54:33

08/16 16:55, 4年前 , 108F
時間成本都不用算
08/16 16:55, 108F
※ 編輯: hanchueh (101.12.1.29 臺灣), 08/16/2019 17:08:08

08/16 18:05, 4年前 , 109F
我同學的fit 大約5年20萬km左右的時候,業務有跟他30萬收唷
08/16 18:05, 109F

08/16 18:06, 4年前 , 110F
我想toyoto在台灣應該可以再保值一點點吧(除了油電車..)
08/16 18:06, 110F

08/16 18:09, 4年前 , 111F
這個camry的殘值估計應該不太適合台灣
08/16 18:09, 111F

08/16 18:11, 4年前 , 112F
用電是便宜沒錯 但是如果只是管總花費 油電有便宜prius C
08/16 18:11, 112F

08/16 18:21, 4年前 , 113F
真的不需要為比而比...
08/16 18:21, 113F

08/16 19:05, 4年前 , 114F
你用trade in 那model3絕對沒有18000的價錢
08/16 19:05, 114F

08/16 19:06, 4年前 , 115F
我有一個true car全國的連結 價格沒差那麼多
08/16 19:06, 115F

08/16 19:08, 4年前 , 116F
我只能說你先射箭再畫靶 怎樣都中靶的
08/16 19:08, 116F

08/16 19:11, 4年前 , 117F
你要分享資訊也不錯 只是美國網友指出來問題
08/16 19:11, 117F

08/16 19:12, 4年前 , 118F
說這個訊息是錯的 為什麼一定要堅持?
08/16 19:12, 118F

08/16 19:13, 4年前 , 119F
而且不只我提出問題
08/16 19:13, 119F

08/16 19:21, 4年前 , 120F
以前的EAP和現在的AP都沒有包含自動煞車AEB,這是車子
08/16 19:21, 120F

08/16 19:21, 4年前 , 121F
本身就標配還是怎樣
08/16 19:21, 121F
AEB是標配沒錯 一直都啟動 不是只有AP才有

08/16 19:45, 4年前 , 122F
神車的保值這麼差喔?
08/16 19:45, 122F
※ 編輯: hanchueh (101.12.1.29 臺灣), 08/16/2019 20:11:14 ※ 編輯: hanchueh (101.12.1.29 臺灣), 08/16/2019 20:11:41

08/16 21:18, 4年前 , 123F
Nada 給五年camry LE average condition有 $9,900.
08/16 21:18, 123F

08/16 21:19, 4年前 , 124F
good 有到11,000
08/16 21:19, 124F

08/17 03:16, 4年前 , 125F
你有透天嗎
08/17 03:16, 125F

08/17 09:38, 4年前 , 126F
五年50%高估很多了 Rav4才43%
08/17 09:38, 126F

08/17 09:39, 4年前 , 127F
這已經是SUV 保值率第二名了 只輸Subaru 49%
08/17 09:39, 127F

08/17 09:40, 4年前 , 128F
美國新車便宜修車貴二手自然低
08/17 09:40, 128F

08/17 09:45, 4年前 , 129F
房車其實更慘的 C300 五年掉到連台幣50萬都不用
08/17 09:45, 129F

08/17 17:50, 4年前 , 130F
你拿Camry跟M3做比較比較不適合,因為Camry在台灣根本不熱門
08/17 17:50, 130F

08/17 17:53, 4年前 , 131F
再加上現在Camry跟Altis的長度寬度都差不多,如果拿Altis來
08/17 17:53, 131F

08/17 17:55, 4年前 , 132F
跟M3比的話,光售價就便宜至少一半以上,以勤儉持家的人來說
08/17 17:55, 132F

08/17 17:56, 4年前 , 133F
從開新車一直開到報廢,修車的錢加總都不會比一台M3的售價貴
08/17 17:56, 133F

08/17 17:59, 4年前 , 134F
更別說二手價了,牛頭牌在台灣的二手價一向還不錯。
08/17 17:59, 134F
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