Re: [新聞] Slayers解散算是預期中的事吧...只是真的解散了還是覺得很難過
看板StarCraft作者kira925 (1 2 3 4 疾風炭)時間11年前 (2012/10/17 23:06)推噓196(200推 4噓 268→)留言472則, 108人參與討論串6/6 (看更多)
我來接手MMA事件好了 非常非常長...
- We had a manager(initial J) who took care of our relationship with overseas
partners/fans. J focused on working with the images BoxeR had. He was not a
good friend with MMA to begin with but since MMA started to perform well, he
always came to the studio when MMA played.
Slayers有個J經理 他負責處理海外的伙伴與粉絲事務。他主要處理的是維護包哥
的形象。他並不是個MMA的好朋友，直到MMA表現的很好以後他都跑去與MMA混熟
- He wanted to look after SlayerS official Facebook page and Twitter to
communicate with foreign fans more. As he started that, that's when we
promoted him to a manager position where he also took care of overseas
partners. He also took care of negotiations between two of our sponsors with
an extension.
他想要維護維護Slayers的官方臉書以及Twitter帳戶，因此和國外的支持者有更直接
的溝通。自從他開始這份工作以後，我們把他升值到經理的職位，讓他負責與國外合
做伙伴的工作。他同時也負責跟我們兩個合作伙伴的溝通談判事務。
- He kept reporting me that our demands and their demands never seem to meet.
I asked myself 'why are the sponsors doing this to us now when we are
performing better?' after reading what they were offering. So I gave up on
the extension.
他總是跟我說我們的要求和贊助商的要求並不相同。在瀏覽過他們開出的條件以後，
我是這樣跟自己說的:"為什麼贊助商會這樣要求我們，在我們表現的更好的時候？"
所以我就放棄了和他們繼續合作。
- That's when the problems rose, I was sure that I could run and manage the
team without a sponsor so I decided to operate the team as we've been and
planned to seek out for a new sponsor in the future. But I have noticed a
weird atmosphere among players and manager J acted suspiciously. Turns out
manager J was lying to me about what he was telling sponsors and he told
players that I have embezzeled money and goods using reputations of the team
and the players. Everyone knew that BoxeR was spending his own money to run
the team and I don't know how players believed the manager who joined the
team 2 months ago.
這就是問題的開端。我很確定我們可自己運轉經營這個戰隊，就算在沒有贊助的情況下
，所以我繼續我們的經營模式並且開始尋找新的贊助商。但是我注意到一個奇怪的氛圍
在J經理與其他選手之間開始籠罩。最後我發現J經理欺騙了我並且他告訴選手們我利用
選手與隊伍的名氣汙了錢跟其他的商品。每個人都知道BoxeR是使用他自己的錢運轉經營
這個隊伍所以我不知道為什麼選手們會相信這個才加入隊伍兩個月的經理。
- MMA firmly believed that I have embezzled his money from the personal
sponsor and I was very disappointed. I cared every single one of them
sincerely and loved them but they believed the manager... I can't remember
how long I cried. J manager offered players behind my back to form a new team
with him that he could get more sponsors than I did. MMA did not confirm
anything with any means and accepted that offer which he confessed me later.
- More shocking thing was that no players told me about this. I was going to
formally sue the manager but I couldn't because I didn't want to disturb
young players with a court case. If I had never found about this.. then
players would have left the team without knowing.. That's when I lost my
faith in MMA
MMA深信我真的從他的個人贊助商那邊偷了錢，所以我非常的失望。我對於每位選手
都非常的關懷，但是他們卻相信那個經理...我無法記起那個時候我哭了多久。J經理
在我的背後鼓動選手來成立新的戰隊，並且宣稱跟著他可以獲得更多的贊助。MMA並
沒有去確認任何事情然後就接受了這個提議。
更令我感到震驚的事情是沒有任何選手告訴我這件事情。我當時差點就要正式對那位
經理提告，但是我沒辦法因為我不想要用這件事情去打擾年輕的選手們。如果我沒有
發現這件事情，選手們大概已經在不知情的情況下離開了隊伍。這就是我開始對MMA
失去信心的時候。
- MMA and others, who often participated in a foriegn tournament, claimed
that whenever he says hell to other players from the federation, they would
ignore him and that they kept mocking SlayerS and themselves. MMA, Alicia,
Crank and GanZi have all told me the same thing. And this was the cover-up
reason he told others and the medias
MMA跟其他常常在國外比賽一起練習的選手們，宣稱不管他跟其他來自ESF的選手
怎樣打招呼，他們都會直接忽視他並且繼續排擠Slayers。MMA、Alicia、Crank跟
GanZi都曾經告訴我類似的事情，這就是他告訴其他人跟媒體的。
- The reason why MMA got demoted was not that. I have explained why he was
being bullied and mocked and got him comprehended. That's when Crank and MMA
hung around alot after that. Crank visited me and complained that the team
atmosphere was so bad, he felt pressured and stressed. That's when I asked
BoxeR, who at the time was resting to sort out his shoulder problem, to stay
in the team house and look after them.
但MMA被丟到二軍的真相不是這樣。我曾經對外說過是因為他很不禮貌而且不自重
因此處罰了他。這就是Crank和MMA開始勾搭在一起的開始。Crank來找我並且抱怨
隊伍的氣氛不好，他感到很有壓力與低落。因此我問當時在治療肩膀的BoxeR，
留在隊伍裏面照顧他們。
- However, Crank complained once again that talking to the coach and BoxeR's
presence did not make any difference and asked me what I actually did. I felt
very sorry to him. My player is complaining and all I did didn't help him..
- Crank told me that because his neck is sore, he needed to rest. This was
right before GSTL quarter finals. He said as he finished preparing for his
game and he can pratise that only. I asked Cella if it's ok for him to go
home and Cella told me that he has got his build order prepared for a map so
he may go home.
但是Crank還是在抱怨並且跟教練說BoxeR的存在並沒有差異並且詢問我到底實際
上做了什麼。我感到非常失望，我的選手們在抱怨但是我所做的沒幫到他。
Crank告訴我那是因為他的脖子痠痛，他需要休息，在 GSTL 半決賽之後。
他號稱他已經準備好比賽了。我詢問 Cella 他是不是已經準備好可以回家了，
Cella 也告訴我他已經準備好他的戰術了所以他可以回家。
- That weekend, he texted me requesting to be removed from the entry. Because
he seemed so ill, I talked to him on messenger to see if he was ok. He didn't
answer so I left a message saying 'Rest well physically and mentally
peacefully and see you at the stadium'. He then texted Cella 'what is she
doing this to me?' .. I don't know what I did
- That's when Cella told me that he wanted to quit and is not practising at
home. He wanted to quit and rest and he has no intention of moving to another
team so he begged me to release him from the contract. I had no intention of
holding his back and I agreed that he wanted to rest so I let him go.
- But.. I was told by others that he is streaming and looking for a foreign
team. So I asked him why he had to lie and what his unprofessional attitutes
are for. I asked him if he knew why MMA wanted to leave the team. He answered
'it's because of me - when I told MMA that I want to move to another team
because of the team atmosphere, MMA wanted to join me'. I asked MMA whether
it was true and he denied.
那個週末，他傳給我簡訊他沒辦法登板。因為他感覺病殃殃的，所以我在聊天室
上和他確定他是不是OK。他並沒有回應所以我留下了個訊息是
"好好休息吧，期待在體育館看到你"
他之後傳簡訊給 Cella 說"為什麼他要這樣對我?" 我不知道我做了什麼
然後Cella就告訴我Crank想要離隊，並且並未在家練習。他想要離開並且好好休息，
他並沒有想要跳隊所以他要求我簽約讓他走。我並不想要強迫他所以我同意了如果
他想要休息的話他可以離隊
但是，後來其他人告訴我他在實況直播並且想要找一個國外戰隊。所以我問他為什麼
他要欺騙我以及他的職業態度在哪裡。我問他是不是知道MMA為什麼想要離開Slayers
他告訴我那是因為"我" 當我告訴MMA我想要因為隊伍氣氛不好所以想把MMA丟到二軍
去的時候，MMA想要加入我" 我問了MMA是不是真的 MMA否認了
- Recently, Crank rang me and screamed 'why are you relating me with Ganzi,
Alicia and MMA's problem? do you want to ruin my progamer life?' I lost my
words. I knew he wasn't happy with me and the team. But I asked 'Do you know
where you are yelling at? I have looked after you and cared for you as the
team owner and the manager for years'.. but he yelled back saying 'who do you
think you are? where are you yelling at?'. Boxer who was right next to me got
the phone off me after listening to him, but then he also yelled at BoxeR
saying 'what were you doing during all this?' and then claimed that he will
only play SC2 for this year and he just wanted to enjoy the game and that's
why he left the team. I have this on recording and I will see what he does in
the future. (T/N : I am sure that Crank can get into a trouble if he enters
into another team as he lied to get out of the contract)
然後最近 Crank打來跟我咆嘯"為什麼你要把我和GanZi/Alicia/MMA的事件連結在一起？
你知道那會毀了我的職業生命嗎？" 我無語了。不過我反問"你知道你在跟誰說話嗎？
我對你有多少照顧而且當了你多久的隊經理..." 但是他罵回來"你以為你是誰阿？你
在跟誰對罵阿？" BoxeR那個時候就在我旁邊，然後在聽到我們的對話後接過電話。
不過他一樣對包哥咆嘯"在這些事情發生的時候你在哪裡？" 然後宣稱他就只繼續玩
SC2到今年為止，然後他只想要享受遊戲 所以他離開了隊伍。我有把這段對話錄起來，
然後我想要看他之後會怎樣。
- BoxeR spent all his time and more than one hundred million(won) to grow the
team and when players are mocking me and him, he was very shocked. Although
we were in the GSTL finals, the atmosphere was the worst. I had to make a
decision on Crank and MMA, who were affecting the team atmosphere, so I sent
MMA back home and removed crank. I wanted to notify MMA but he never came
back to the team house over weekends and never helped anyone for GSTL.
Because we couldn't tell MMA, BoxeR and I told Ganzi about this. Ganzi used
to joke around with me but during the time he couldn't even make an eye
contact with me. I asked him what the problem was as I have explained to him
about everything as MMA problems progressed.
BoxeR把他的時間跟超過一億韓元的經費花在建立這個隊伍，所以當他知道隊員們
開始嘲笑我的時候他非常震驚。雖然我們成功進入了GSTL的冠軍賽，隊伍的氣氛卻是
有史以來最糟的。我必須針對Crank根MMA做出決定，他們對隊伍的氣氛造成了不良的
影響，所以我要求MMA回家並且開除了Crank.我希望提醒MMA不過那個週末MMA並沒有回
到隊伍練習室並且在準備GSTL上沒有對其他人做出任何協助。因為我們沒辦法聯絡到
MMA 所以我們告知Ganzi轉告。Ganzi平常都會跟我們開玩笑，但是這次他甚至連眼神
都不敢靠近過來。我問他發生了什麼事，並且告訴他所有MMA事件的進度。
- BoxeR told GanZi painfully that MMA is a cancer to this team at the moment
and he wanted to GanZi to make the right decision. GanZi was very lost and he
also told us that he will try to concentrate practising at home.
- MMA came back the next day, he probably have heard his expulsion from
A-team from Ganzi. He had already packed all his belongings. BoxeR called MMA
and started to talk but MMA cut him off and said there are nothing to talk
about. BoxeR told him MMA had been moved to B-Team and to return home, MMA
simply said there was no need as he is leaving the team.
包哥很痛苦的告訴了GanZi現在MMA是隊伍之癌並且他希望GanZi做出正確的決定。
Ganzi非常失落並且他告訴我們想要在家自主練習。
MMA隔天回來了，他大概已經從Ganzi那邊聽到他對一軍造成的影響。
他已經打包好了他所有的東西。包哥打電話給MMA並且想要跟他聊一聊。但是
MMA打斷了他並且說已經沒什麼好說的了。BoxeR告訴他MMA已經被丟到二軍並且請他
回家自己練習。MMA說沒有必要，他要離隊了。
- When BoxeR told him that he is still a SlayerS player who was bound by the
contract, MMA claimed that it was not a contract but a slavery note. We have
a clause determining the share of prize money, which already allows players
to keep the majority, but we didn't even take our share of the prize money.
We didn't write contracts to make money. When he called the contract a
slavery note, I was simply lost. We had 5 players in total who had a contract
including Ganzi and MMA.
當包哥告訴他他還是一個被合約綁住的Slayers隊員的時候，MMA聲稱那並不是一個
合約而是奴隸契約。我們可以決定分配獎金的抽成，這讓選手們可以拿到大部分的
獎金，但是我們從來沒拿過我們該有的那部份。我們並不是簽契約來賺錢的，當他
聲稱那份契約是奴隸契約的時候，我很失望。我們實際上有簽約的五位選手包含了
Ganzi跟MMA
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