[情報] Deutsche Bahn tenders for loco-hauled
http://railcolornews.com/2017/03/03/eu-deutsche-bahn-tenders-for-zugverbanden-lokomotiven-und-wagenzuge/
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[EU] Deutsche Bahn tenders for loco-hauled long distance passenger trains
Written by Railcolor Headquarters on 03.03.2017
The German railways (DB) are renewing their fleet for long distance traveling.
We are just months away from the start of serie-delivery of the new ICE4
trains, that should enter revenue earning service next December. Some sets
are already in ‘test service’ now between Hamburg and Munich.
Image above: Impression made by Railcolordesign.com, it has no relation to
Deutsche Bahn
Originally, in 2011, DB wanted to order both multi-system and AC voltage ICE4
trains, so they could be deployed in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and in DC
voltage countries such as the Netherlands. But these plans have changed over
time. The multi-system version was taken out of the program. Now, the ICE4
will be operated in Germany (homologation done) and Switzerland (in process).
DB has stated that homologation for Austria is also still desired, but will
be realized on a later moment.
ICE 4 trainset. Photo: Deutsche Bahn
Now DB has released a new tender for a framework agreement for newly built “
Zugverbänden (Lokomotiven und Wagenzüge)”: train compositions (locomotives
and loco-hauled rakes for passenger services). They need to be single-deck
and operable in Germany, Austria and “other European countries”.
Manufacturers can apply independently or as consortium.
Also, the manufacturer(s) must have produced a mainline train type that has
been fully approved for Austria and the Netherlands during the past five
years. It/They should have production capacity for at least twenty trains per
year, starting in 2021. One composition should have at least 485 seats.
You can read the whole tender here: ted.europa.eu
Railcolor: Is ordering loco-hauled stock for passenger service by the German
railways breaking with the trend to focus on articulated trains? Yes and no.
True, loco-hauled trains do not have a distributed power system, they are
more flexible as you can add or take-out coaches, in theory. In practice we
see that trains such as the Railjet from Austria, the Intercity Direct in the
Netherlands and DB’s own IC2 double deck trains are operated in fixed
compositions too, only locomotives change rake every now and then. Not
changing the composition of the train, is often preferred because on
economical arguments. An operator then saves on costs for the logistics of
shunting and having coaches available at strategic locations. When more
capacity is needed, than often two trains are coupled together.
‘Intercity 2’: The loco-hauled train as fixed unit. Photo: Deutsche Bahn
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摘要:
ICE4的多電壓跨國版計畫喊卡,改以新型機車牽引式列車取代
P.S.感覺很可能是西門子主推的Viaggio Confort出線...跨國多電壓又高速
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│ 本務車 後連車 │ 列
│ ◢ --- - ◥ │ 車
│ E1001 E1002 │ 供
│ - --- │ 電
│ 1 2 ▄▄▄▄▄ 2 1 │ 故
│ ● ●● ● ● ●● ● │ 障
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這車其實就是Railjet的系統名
當初西門子替OBB客製化了Railjet之後,為了拓展業務而發展的平臺
全列固定編組型可以到250kph,動力車可摘掛型則到230(如OBB Railjet)
動力車則可以搭配ES64U2 U4 Vectron或另外客製等等
http://www.mobility.siemens.com/mobility/global/SiteCollectionDocuments/en/rail-solutions/passenger-coaches/viaggio-comfort-en.pdf
https://goo.gl/zCkhkZ
其實跟ICE2滿有血緣關係的...
另外補上文尾提到的Intercity 2
是龐巴迪Twindex的PP版
https://youtu.be/cnrEJmu1Re0
※ 編輯: komachi275 (1.34.120.108), 03/05/2017 00:53:15
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西門子上面那張廣告單提到說歐洲超過250以上的營運範圍是小部分
這或許也是就連ICE4也降低目標速率至250的原因
廣告單內有歐洲鐵路路網圖 看起來270以上的偏重在西歐
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車子大陸有Velaro CN
路的部分對岸分傳統線與高速線
傳統線以160最高 高速線則是200以上
哪個部分會被笑呢?
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