Re: [新聞] 防護亮紅燈 軌道升級不能等
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: 推 cutec:日本車給台鐵的教訓也不少... 09/02 20:35
: → evilcherry:不過買500匹卻不能跑>120也實在是有點多此一舉 09/02 20:36
: → evilcherry:反而單軸驅動就是切實的問題 09/02 20:36
: → cgy:拜託不要用市場現貨來看,鐵路車輛就是你開什麼規格廠商做什麼 09/02 20:37
: → cgy:廠商不會多做事 09/02 20:37
: → cutec:SNCF縱使是老手,在對Alstom的採購上也是有吃過虧,買來的車就 09/02 20:41
: → cutec:是很爛...所以當時他們決定把部分採購機會分給龐巴迪,最後有 09/02 20:41
: → cutec:效制衡Alstom的做法... 09/02 20:42
: → cutec:英國也是如此,當適度開放日立進入該國鐵道市場後,原有的大廠 09/02 20:43
: → cutec:配合度也變高了.... 09/02 20:43
: 推 ryanmk2:所以cutec大是說,用標準軌的英國開放來自窄軌國的日立 09/02 21:19
: → ryanmk2:可以制衡的話,那窄軌國的台灣為何不能開放標準軌的公司? 09/02 21:20
台灣老早就一堆你們說標準軌的公司來標了
韓國就是大宗,台鐵轉向架那個東西ABB ALSTOM 都是標準軌的廠商
PP的機車頭轉向架還是係出名門的德國 kruss maffei,不要說台鐵都找爛廠商
現在沒有那種標準軌只能做標準軌的生意,西門子寬軌 窄軌通通都能接
鐵路車輛算是一種客製化的生意,不是跟汽車一樣是標準商品(不要跟我說
D G J配備調整是客製化,這邊所說的客製化已經是什麼都能客製化)
他是一個系統的大型商品
公司是整合很多個成熟商品,組合成一個SYSTEM,不要光看組成SYSTEM很簡單
能搬得上檯面的就是SYSTEM整合,怎麼把互相成熟商品組合後完美運作那又是
另一件事,要不然都是核心都是係出明門PP(除了轉向架名門外,馬達是ALSTOM)
還是一樣鳥。
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