[討論] 女權很愛談鷹郡事件?那就來談
先說我就是鋼鐵科粉,喜歡老大,從來就不是因為他完美,他也有缺點,而且還不少。
但他還是能夠真實的做自己。愛他那就愛他,你要恨也隨便你。
但要恨也輪不到台灣某些垃圾女權,尤其是在這個時候出來好像喊個強暴就是高尚的女權
鬥士一樣,看了真的想吐。
那麼愛談鷹郡事件,那就來談呀
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Los Angeles Times洛杉磯時報
Key events in the Kobe Bryant case
Kobe案件中的關鍵事件
June 30, 2003: Bryant flies to Eagle, Colo., to undergo knee surgery in nearb
y Vail. Bryant checks in at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards. A 19-ye
ar-old woman working as the front desk clerk accompanies Bryant on a tour. Sh
e later goes to Bryant’s hotel room, where she says he rapes her.
2003年6月30日: Kobe飛到克羅拉多鷹郡進行膝蓋手術,入住了一家位於Edward一家
飯店。在前台工作的19歲女性陪著Kobe導覽環境。她之後進入了Kobe的房間,聲稱在
這遭到Kobe的強暴。
July 1: Bryant undergoes knee surgery. Bryant’s accuser reports the alleged
sexual assault to the Eagle County Sheriff’s Department. Late at night, Ea
gle County sheriff’s investigators interview Bryant and collect evidence fr
om his room.
2003年7月1日: Kobe進行了膝蓋手術,而被告也在同一日向鷹郡警局告發Kobe對她
性侵害。當天晚間,鷹郡警局的調查員盤問了Kobe並在他的房間蒐證。
July 7: Dist. Atty. Mark Hurlbert says: “It’s possible [Bryant] could be
charged with sexual assault, it’s possible he could not be charged with
anything. It’s possible he could be charged with something else.”
2003年7月7日:地區檢察官說: Kobe確實有可能因為性侵案而遭到起訴,也可
能不會因為任何事遭到起訴,又或是因為其他事遭到起訴。
July 18: Bryant is charged with one count of felony sexual assault. Bryan
t, flanked by his wife and attorneys, holds a news conference at Staples
Center. He admits committing adultery but says “I’m innocent” of assault.
2003年7月18日: Kobe因涉及傷害的性侵案件而遭到起訴。Kobe在他老婆及辯
護律師們的陪同下,在Staples Center舉行記者會。Kobe承認了通姦但矢口否
認有性侵對方。
May 11, 2004: Bryant enters a plea of not guilty in criminal case.
2004年5月11日: Kobe在刑事訴訟的方面進行無罪申訴。
June 24: A court reporter mistakenly e-mails transcripts of a closed-doo
r hearing to seven news organizations, including The Times. In the trans
cripts, a DNA expert details evidence bolstering a defense contention th
at Bryant’s accuser had sex with someone else soon after the alleged rape.
2004年6月24日: 法庭書記官意外地將非公開聽證會的記錄發給了7家媒體
,包括時代雜誌(這也太意外了?)。在記錄中,一位DNA專家詳述證據佐證了辯方
(Kobe方)的論點,也就是被告在聲稱被Kobe強暴後不久,還有和其他人發生性行為。
Aug. 10: Accuser files civil suit against Bryant, seeking unspecified damages.
2004年8月10日: 控方對Kobe提起民事訴訟並提出索賠。
Sept. 1: Prosecutors say they will drop the criminal case. In a statem
ent, Hurlbert says: “The victim has informed us ... that she does not
want to proceed with this trial. For this reason, and this reason onl
y, the case is being dismissed.”
2004年9月1日: 檢察官說他們會撤銷刑事訴訟。 地區檢察官說:受
害者告知我們,她不想要繼續進行訴訟,這是她撤銷訴訟的唯一原因。
Nov. 17: First hearing in civil lawsuit. Attorneys indicate they have
discussed the possibility of reaching a settlement.
2004年11月17日: 首次民事訴訟聽證會。 檢察官指出他們已經討
論出達成和解的可能性。
Jan. 9, 2005: Lin Wood, the accuser’s attorney, says woman decided
against filing a parallel suit in California.
2005年1月9日: 控方律師說控方決定不另外在加州提起訴訟。
Feb. 2: U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch orders both sides to
stop leaking “scandalous” information in public filings and exp
resses hope for a summer trial.
2005年2月2日: 美國地方法官要求雙方不要洩露公開呈報
中一些不光彩的資訊並表示希望能在夏季審訊。
March 2: A settlement in the case is announced but no terms are disclosed.
2005年3月2日: 雙方達成和解但詳細內容並沒有透露。
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While the exact terms of the lawsuit were not released, the Lo
s Angeles Times estimated the payout may have exceeded $2.5 mi
llion. The civil case lasted 20 months and concluded in March 2005.
即便和解內容並未向外透露,但洛杉磯時估計Kobe付
出超過250萬美元,民事訴訟持續了超過20個月並在2005年3月終了。
“Experts said that the settlement probably exceeded that am
ount because it included a confidentiality agreement, but th
at the damage to Bryant’s reputation from the criminal char
ge might have weakened the accuser’s leverage,” the Times reported.
專家指出和解金額可能還超過250萬元,因為其中
還抱括了保密協議,但訴訟案對Kobe聲譽的重創也會使控方的影響力下降。
The conclusion of the lawsuit came six months after the al
leged victim decided not to testify in the criminal case,
and one week before Kobe Bryant was scheduled for a deposi
tion. Before the woman’s decision not to testify, the cri
minal case had already been tied up in court in pre-trial
motions for more than one year.
而案件在受害者決定不出庭刑事訴訟作證
的6個月後終止,受害者決定不出庭作證的時
間點。同時也是Kobe排定出庭時間的前一週
。在該女子決定不出庭作證前, 該案前就已經纏訟了一年以上的時間。
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該女子驗傷結果:
“[The nurse] stated that there were several laceration
s to the victim’s posterior fourchette or vaginal area,
and two of those lacerations were approximately one ce
ntimeter in length,” testified Det. Winters. “And ther
e were many, I believe, 2 millimeter lacerations. Too m
any to count… [The nurse] stated that the injuries were
consistent with penetrating genital trauma. That it’s
not consistent with consensual sex.”
護士說受害者在外陰部有多處撕裂傷
,有兩處超過一公分長,另有多處2毫米長的傷口,並不像合意性交。
鑑識證據:
Det. Winters further stated that the nurse told him the
vaginal injuries had most likely occurred within “24
hours,” and that the accuser had “a small bruise on
her left jaw line.” Also, that examiners had found
“blood excretions” on Bryant’s T-shirt “to about t
he waistline.” The blood, testified Det. Winters, had
“the same DNA profile as the victim in this case.”
警探陳述護士告訴他一般生殖器受傷
大多發生在過去24小時內,受害者在左下
顎線也有小瘀青, 另外鑑識人員在Ko
be的衣服上找到了含有血跡的分泌物,位置大約在腰際線。該血跡證實是被害人的。
https://i.imgur.com/qIe5w4i.jpg
左下顎線示意圖
https://i.imgur.com/Fbj8X8V.jpg
腰際線示意圖
辯方律師團著重點 (Kobe方):
1. The accuser stated that she’d had consensual sex
on June 27 or 28, and when the panties she wore to he
r medical exam the following day were tested, they fo
und semen and a hair follicle that did not belong to
Bryant. These were, for clarification purposes, a sep
arate pair of panties she put on and wore to her exa
m—not the panties from the night in question, which
were collected and tested separately—and the accuse
r claimed she’d accidentally put on a pair of dirty panties for the exam
控方指出該女子在27或者28號
有和他人合意性交。而事件發
生後隔天該女子去做內褲上的採
樣檢測時,測試結果顯示上面的精液以及毛囊並不屬於Kobe。
該女子聲稱當時可能是穿錯內褲去進行檢測。隨後檢方也對兩條內褲進行分開測試。
2. Bryant’s defense team claimed that the vaginal t
rauma suffered by the accuser could have been from
having “multiple partners” in a short time span,
though Det. Winters had testified that a nurse told
him the injuries had likely occurred in the past 24 hours.
Kobe的律師團稱控方生殖器上
的創傷有可能是來自於這段時間的多
個對象(言下之意就是認為不一定是
Kobe造成的),但警探說護士告訴
他這類的傷口一般都在過去24小時內
造成 (所以只有可能是Kobe或者是之後那個人當中的其中一個)。
3. Furthermore, Bryant’s defense team focused on ho
w the accuser admitted she was “excited” to meet
Bryant—allegedly requesting an autograph of him pri
or to the alleged sexual assault
辯方說該女子在聲稱被強暴前對Kobe表現得相當興奮還和Kobe要了簽名。
(這段感覺挺無聊的,一般人看到NBA明星都會覺得很興奮吧)
Authorities claimed that Bryant’s accuser had been
hospitalized four months prior to the alleged sexual
assault, and when campus police arrived to her dorm
itory at the University of Northern Colorado, they
determined she was “a danger to herself.
檢方稱控方在發生該案件之前曾住院4個月,原因是校警判定她對自身具有危險性。
A former friend of the accuser’s, who said she’d
lived with the woman before they had a falling ou
t, told authorities that the accuser had tried to
commit suicide twice before the alleged sexual ass
ault by attempting to overdose on sleeping pills
該女子以前的朋友指出她曾經兩度試圖服用過量安眠藥自殺。
Kobe的道歉聲明
"Although I truly believe this encounter between u
s was consensual, I recognize now that she did not
and does not view this incident the same way I di
d," he said in a statement read in court by his la
wyer Pamela Mackey. "After months of reviewing dis
covery, listening to her attorney, and even her te
stimony in person, I now understand how she feels
that she did not consent to this encounter. I issu
e this statement today fully aware that while one
part of this case ends today, another remains. I u
nderstand that the civil case against me will go forward."
儘管我真的相信我和那
位女士的之間的事是合
意的,但我現在認知到她
對這件事並沒有和我抱持
一樣的看法。在這幾個月
檢視新發現 ,聽取她律
師甚至她自己的證詞,
我現在瞭解她對這個遭
遇並不贊同。我今天發
表這段聲明,我知道即
便有一部分的案件到今天為止,但其他部分仍舊會持續,民事訴訟仍然會繼續。
(以上這段是女權最愛直接拿來當Kobe一定有強暴的證據)
這件事的事實是什麼,大概永遠也不會知道,但確實很多地方值得討論。
但Kobe一直以來承認的就只
有通姦部分,強暴部分他是矢
口否認。 最後Kobe排定出
庭刑事庭的前一周, 該女子也是拒絕出庭作證,6個月後刑事部分就終結了。
Kobe 2003年的收入是2600萬美元
而當時一開始Kobe刑事部分被起訴是以涉暴力的強暴罪,在美國是可以判到20年刑期的。
而刑事訴訟的需要花
費的時間跟案情明朗程度有
一定關係,例如證人多寡,
證據強度。像Kobe這個案
件假如刑事部分真的進入
審理階段,花費的時間肯定是
不短的 (第一沒證人,然後也
無法證明那些傷口是來自Ko
be又或是之後的那個對象
)。 花錢和解不代表就是認罪。更何況現實就是刑事訴訟部分最後撤銷了。
人當然可以選擇自己想相信的去相信,但把自己相信的直接說成就是事實
很可笑呀
聽說後來還有其他更多
證據。我找不到資料就
不放了,其他人想補充再補充吧。 有翻錯的地方再請指正,畢竟不是念這個專業的。
最後還是要再說一句
老大你安息吧,能看你打球真的是件幸福的事呀
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4年前
, 583F
01/31 12:29, 583F
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01/31 12:29,
4年前
, 584F
01/31 12:29, 584F
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01/31 12:29,
4年前
, 585F
01/31 12:29, 585F
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01/31 12:29,
4年前
, 586F
01/31 12:29, 586F
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01/31 12:29,
4年前
, 587F
01/31 12:29, 587F
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