[高微] A,B closed 判斷A+B是否closed

看板Math作者 (Encore LaLa)時間14年前 (2011/12/13 16:58), 編輯推噓2(2013)
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題目是: Let A,B ≦ R^n be closed set. Does A+B = {x+y | x€A and y€B} have to be closed? 解答是找例子 A={(x,0) €R^2 | x€R} B={(t,1/t) €R^2 | t>0} 我自己是從定義著手 A is closed => (R^n - A) is open B is closed => (R^n - B) is open to defined whether A+B is closed or not,we consider R^n-(A+B) R^n-(A+B) = R^n-A-B = (R^n-A)-B since R^n-A is open , and B is close => R^n-(A+B) is not open Hence A+B is not closed ## 問題點就是說 open - closed = closed 能不能推過去.. 感覺這個也是要舉例證明.....囧 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.42.103.126

12/13 17:03, , 1F
A+B={(x,y)|x>0} is open.
12/13 17:03, 1F

12/13 17:44, , 2F
不可能定義做吧,因為還是有close+close=close的阿
12/13 17:44, 2F

12/13 17:44, , 3F
所以直接舉反例吧
12/13 17:44, 3F

12/13 17:51, , 4F
我是從題目要我判斷是否closed,但我找到open 這樣
12/13 17:51, 4F

12/13 19:48, , 5F
S大好像只看標題就推文了XD 已經有定義A+B..
12/13 19:48, 5F

12/13 20:33, , 6F
我是只看到hint. 你的證明是錯的 這題是要舉反例
12/13 20:33, 6F

12/13 23:40, , 7F
反例:A = -|N, B = {n+1/n: n > 2}
12/13 23:40, 7F

12/14 10:12, , 8F
樓上的 A = -|N 是什麼意思阿QQ?
12/14 10:12, 8F

12/14 10:14, , 9F
-|N = {-1,-2,-3,...,-n,...}
12/14 10:14, 9F

12/15 00:12, , 10F
R^n-(A+B)=(R^n-A)-B=(R^n-A)交集(R^n-B)
12/15 00:12, 10F

12/15 00:13, , 11F
R^n-A 和 R^n-B都open, 有限open set交集是open
12/15 00:13, 11F

12/15 00:14, , 12F
好像你對??
12/15 00:14, 12F

12/15 00:15, , 13F
啊不對,R^n-(A+B) = R^n-A-B?? 不是吧??
12/15 00:15, 13F

12/15 01:26, , 14F
要證明 "=> not open",必須要舉反例證明 XD
12/15 01:26, 14F

12/15 01:27, , 15F
以前算證明我也會繞來繞去
12/15 01:27, 15F
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