Re: [問題] 生物異能 + 堆疊
突然想到一點再說明一下,完整規則其實埋藏了不少洞
等著異想天開的人踩進去
602.2a The player announces that he or she is activating the ability. If an
activated ability is being activated from a hidden zone, the card that has
that ability is revealed. That ability is created on the stack as an object
that's not a card. It becomes the topmost object on the stack. It has the
text of the ability that created it, and no other characteristics. Its
controller is the player who activated the ability. The ability remains on
the stack until it's countered, it resolves, or an effect moves it elsewhere.
個人不負責任式翻譯:
602.2a 玩家要宣告他正在起動異能。如果異能是從不可見的區域中起動,具該異能的牌
需展示之。異能會以物件而非牌的形式出現在堆疊上。它將成為堆疊上最頂端的物件。它
具有其異能的所有文字,無其它特徵。異能的操控者是起動其異能的玩家。異能在被反擊
前、結算前、或是被其它效應移走前,都在待在堆疊上。
有人知道為何要加上這句話嗎?
「如果異能是從不可見的區域中起動,具該異能的牌需展示之。」
答案是不加上這句會給予人作弊空間
對手的手牌是不可見區域
除非對手故意或是有效應展示之
不然是看不到對手手牌的
而有些異能是從手上起動的
像是循環
可能有人會想,循環又沒差,反正棄到墳墓場裡大家就看得見了
不過加上日月回輪,整個故事就不一樣了
日月回輪( http://magiccards.info/shm/en/243.html )
日月回輪會將進墳墓場的牌改為置於其擁有者的牌庫底
玩家的牌庫底自然也是不可見的區域
於是日月回輪在場時,整個循環動作將牌從 (手牌)-->(牌庫底)
對手沒有機會檢視該牌有沒有循環異能
於是就可以
玩家A:「波動機」
玩家B:「OK」
玩家A:「日月回輪,貼我自己」
玩家B:「OK」
玩家A:「循環計算錯誤」(將手牌放到牌庫底,玩家B看不見)
玩家A:「循環仙靈雲群」(將手牌放到牌庫底,玩家B看不見)
玩家A:「循環拍打」(將手牌放到牌庫底,玩家B看不見)
玩家A:「循環瘋狗」(將手牌放到牌庫底,玩家B看不見)
玩家A:「循環飄移牧草地」(將手牌放到牌庫底,玩家B看不見)
玩家B:「裁判!裁判!救我啊~裁判!」
考量到這種情形,需展示牌這條文就這樣加進了完整規則中
只是沒有前因後果,直接看完整規則的人也未必知其用意就是了
再一道加分題
[忿怒天使愛若瑪的華爾茲]
玩家A操控傳形妖 ( http://magiccards.info/lw/en/85.html )
與龜殼化形 ( http://magiccards.info/lw/en/94.html )
玩家A起動傳形妖的異能
欲將龜殼化形變成玩家B所操控的忿怒天使愛若瑪之複製
忿怒天使愛若瑪 ( http://magiccards.info/le/en/1.html )
玩家B看過昨天的討論,回應施放焦燙 ( http://magiccards.info/ps/en/71.html )
將傳形妖變黑燒死
其後玩家AB皆不做事,請問堆疊解完後戰場上會剩下誰?
A)忿怒天使愛若瑪 & 龜殼化形
B)只剩下忿怒天使愛若瑪
C)只剩下龜殼化形
D)大家都死光光
如果B改為將焦燙用在龜殼化形上,結果會改變嗎?
[重點:傳形妖的起動式異能有兩個目標]
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