[爆卦] Claude抄襲中國AI

看板Gossiping作者 (Sidney0503)時間1周前 (2026/07/22 12:46), 1周前編輯推噓8(13513)
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簡單說 claude 回答說自己是千問 這個迴力鏢就跟我們偉大的黨一樣總是打到自己 https://www.tipranks.com/news/anthropic-faces-distillation-hypocrisy-backlash-as-claude-claims-to-be-alibabas-qwen-ai 短連結 https://shorturl.at/3KcO9 Anthropic Faces Distillation Hypocrisy Backlash as Claude Claims to Be Alibaba ’s Qwen AI Story Highlights Anthropic has been accused by developers of distilling Alibaba’s Qwen AI model. The controversial claims come after developers found a Claude AI model identifying itself as Qwen. Anthropic Faces Distillation Hypocrisy Backlash as Claude Claims to Be Alibaba ’s Qwen AI Anthropic is facing severe backlash from developers who claim the U.S.-based AI firm trained its models on Chinese AI systems. Developers say that Claude Opus 4.8 identified itself as Qwen, the open-source AI model designed by Chinese tech giant Alibaba BABA -1.97% ▼ , during language tests. Claim 55% Off TipRanks Unlock powerful investing tools with TipRanks Premium to make smarter, more confident investment decisions Subscribe to TipRanks Smart Investor Newsletter, and discover new investing opportunities with data-backed stock picks Ad ends in 14 Video Unpaused The reports have sparked fresh debate on X, just weeks after Anthropic accused Alibaba of carrying out its biggest distillation attack against Claude so far. Claude’s Chinese Answers Spark Anthropic Distillation Accusations Claude Opus 4.8 is facing criticism after developers found it named itself “ Qwen” when questioned in Chinese. Screenshots of the exchange spread fast across X, Reddit and the Chinese developer forum V2EX. “Looks like @AnthropicAI may have done a little distillation for Opus 4.8… from Qwen, no less,” Mark Kretschmann, an AI and software engineer, said. Another developer also said Claude’s Qwen response came up after just three prompts, with no special settings involved. Commenters also piled on quickly, calling the timing “embarrassing” given Anthropic’s own history of accusing Chinese labs of copying Claude. Other posts argued the episode proves “every accusation is a confession.” Meanwhile, some Claude testers noted that the Qwen response appeared mainly in raw API tests, where system prompts are less strict than on the web version. Adding to the controversy, another post claimed that Claude was introducing itself not only as Qwen but also as DeepSeek, a leading Chinese AI company. The latest findings appear to have disappointed many users even as some question the validity of the accusations. So far, neither Anthropic nor Alibaba has commented on the recent reports. Anthropic’s Distillation Claims Against Alibaba Resurface The latest controversy follows a letter Anthropic sent the U.S. Senate Banking Committee on June 10, 2026. In it, the company accused operators tied to Alibaba’s Gwen Lab of running its largest distillation attack on Claude yet. Anthropic also claimed that roughly 25,000 fraudulent accounts produced more than 28.8 million exchanges with Claude between April 22 and June 5. The AI firm further alleged that the Chinese government may have been involved in these attacks, a claim Alibaba has promptly denied. The letter further said Alibaba’s alleged distillation campaign targeted Claude’s coding, reasoning and cybersecurity skills. These are the same capabilities built into Anthropic’s most advanced AI model, Mythos. However, as similar distillation claims are now being made against Anthropic, many developers are pointing out the irony of the Claude creator’s own playbook catching up with it. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 220.130.178.190 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1784695560.A.95F.html

07/22 12:46, 1周前 , 1F
你不能翻譯好再貼嗎
07/22 12:46, 1F

07/22 12:46, 1周前 , 2F
就說中國AI領先米國
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07/22 12:47, 1周前 , 3F
魔界抄天堂
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07/22 12:47, 1周前 , 4F
跟中國共產黨一樣
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07/22 12:48, 1周前 , 5F
八又翻
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07/22 12:48, 1周前 , 6F
中文回答限定
07/22 12:48, 6F

07/22 12:48, 1周前 , 7F
八又煩
07/22 12:48, 7F

07/22 12:49, 1周前 , 8F
就好比跑步游泳一樣 有什麼好抗議的
07/22 12:49, 8F

07/22 12:49, 1周前 , 9F
你不會丟AI翻譯啊
07/22 12:49, 9F

07/22 12:50, 1周前 , 10F
哈哈 糗了
07/22 12:50, 10F

07/22 12:51, 1周前 , 11F
你問他8*8等於多少 就知道是不是了
07/22 12:51, 11F

07/22 12:54, 1周前 , 12F
文章內容未滿30字(正體中文)
07/22 12:54, 12F

07/22 12:55, 1周前 , 13F
八又翻
07/22 12:55, 13F

07/22 12:57, 1周前 , 14F
克勞德被中國AI奪舍啦
07/22 12:57, 14F

07/22 13:01, 1周前 , 15F
就用到別人跑過的資料來訓練啊
07/22 13:01, 15F

07/22 13:13, 1周前 , 16F
他們偷了我們的模型
07/22 13:13, 16F

07/22 13:36, 1周前 , 17F
連結都不会做?
07/22 13:36, 17F
補上短連結了

07/22 13:53, 1周前 , 18F
我怎麼問不出來
07/22 13:53, 18F

07/22 14:22, 1周前 , 19F
跟民進黨一樣,套皮大陸AI說自己的
07/22 14:22, 19F

07/22 14:23, 1周前 , 20F

07/22 14:30, 1周前 , 21F
美國哪個AI沒有參考deepseek的
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07/22 15:03, 1周前 , 22F
靠北,互抄了喔
07/22 15:03, 22F
※ 編輯: Sidney0503 (220.130.178.190 臺灣), 07/22/2026 15:39:25

07/22 15:57, 1周前 , 23F
不要亂說,這個就是訓練資料在互用
07/22 15:57, 23F

07/22 16:14, 1周前 , 24F
近親繁殖 不好喔 很容易產生異型
07/22 16:14, 24F

07/22 16:56, 1周前 , 25F
那是第三方模型供應商同時有claude以及
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07/22 16:56, 1周前 , 26F
qwen 在模型切換中產生的問題
07/22 16:56, 26F

07/22 18:42, 1周前 , 27F
這時候青鳥知道原因了喔ccc
07/22 18:42, 27F

07/22 22:41, 1周前 , 28F
哪來的野雞文章 想驗證真假你自己問
07/22 22:41, 28F

07/22 22:41, 1周前 , 29F
64不就知道了
07/22 22:41, 29F

07/23 09:28, 1周前 , 30F
牆臭
07/23 09:28, 30F

07/23 12:26, 1周前 , 31F
全部英文 貼個屁
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