Re: 「聖子道成肉身」還是「整位神-聖父、聖子
再繼續討論李常受是哪一類異端的問題
我個人覺得李常受不是異端
他只是舉出基督論中所有跟基督位格有關的事
如果全盤檢討
會發現雷達圖的每一個極端點他都有碰到
而不是集中在某一個極端
不過
就算真的要指控他是異端好了
也有幾個矛盾必須解決
目前的指控有
李常受有型態論的問題(父變成子)
還有三一一起降生成人的問題(聖父的神性在基督內受苦)
但是這兩個指控都比不上接下來更常見的三個指控
雷達圖極端頂點1
子神不是一開始就存在
是神創造一切的憑藉(God's agent)
但祂並非一開始就是存在的
雷達圖極端頂點2
耶穌復活前聖靈不存在 (對 不是未降下 是不存在)
雷達圖極端頂點3
耶穌是受造物
這邊出現了雷達圖上的另三個極端頂點
耶穌不但不是不是父變成的
甚至不是永遠的 (所以李常受不是型態論 因為型態論需要三位一開始就都存在)
聖靈不但沒有跟耶穌一起降生成人
祂甚至不存在耶穌復活前 (所以李常受不是三一一起道成肉身)
耶穌是受造物
所以並沒有聖父受苦論的問題 (因為神性不會受苦)
受苦的不是子神也不是父神
是受造的耶穌
由於李常受自己說的話也會自相矛盾
並且還分布在所有會互相牴觸的極端位置
因此討論李常受時
不管歸類為異端還是完全沒問題
都需要考慮到他所有的觀點
不然他另一個極端觀點可能就會推翻眼下明顯的異端論述
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