Re: [討論] 《Ooblets》投奔Epic惹怒粉絲,工作室火

看板C_Chat作者 (瘋法師)時間6年前 (2019/08/06 09:49), 6年前編輯推噓20(20026)
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最新進展 Epic Pledges To Support Developers After Intense Harassment Of Ooblets Team https://tinyurl.com/y3ddcm3n By now, you probably know the drill: A developer announces that it will sell the PC version of its game exclusively through the Epic Games Store. Cue wailing, gnashing of teeth, and increasingly, harassment from folks used to smashing that “buy” button on Steam. The latest target of Epic exclusivity ire? The developers of Ooblets, who tried to get out in front of the inevitable stampede of rage by snarkily putting the situation in perspective. Coordinated harassment followed, prompting a statement from Epic on what it’ s now deeming a “disturbing” trend. Last week, Ooblets designer Ben Wasser wrote a post explaining why he and his development partner, programmer and artist Rebecca Cordingley, decided to take Epic’s deal. Wasser said that the publisher offered the duo a minimum guarantee on sales that matched what they were hoping to make on other stores, thus securing their future as a studio. He also addressed people’s concerns about Epic’s store in a half-joking tone, concluding that “this is all low-stakes video game stuff we’re dealing with here” and “nothing to get worked up about.” But people got very worked up indeed about both the exclusivity deal and the “tone” of Wasser’s post, which did not treat the subject of a video game moving to a different, free platform with the funereal somberness it apparently deserves. Over the weekend, Wasser tweeted about some of what he was dealing with. “Gotta quickly address the faked screenshot going around of me supposedly saying ‘gamers would be better off in gas chambers,’” he wrote. “ Obviously never said that, and as a Jewish person, this one really hurt to see being spread around.” The next day, Wasser said the crowd trying to defame him had taken things a step further, creating a fake video of him posting the fake message. Today, in a message to Patreon supporters (reprinted on GamesIndustry.biz), Wasser and Cordingley discussed the full scope of the problem, saying that they’ve received “thousands if not tens of thousands of hateful, threatening messages across every possible platform nonstop.” This cut deep, they said, because of the otherwise “positive, supportive relationship” they ’ve had with their audience throughout development. The two-person studio went on to say that despite having previously felt empathy for targets of coordination internet offensives and trying to address “that kind of thinking” in their exclusivity announcement, they “couldn’t have guessed the scale of what it would feel like to be the target of an internet hate mob.” “I have been crying nonstop for the last two days and feeling like the world has collapsed around me,” reads the studio’s Patreon post. It was in response to all of this that Epic released its statement. “The announcement of Ooblets highlighted a disturbing trend which is growing and undermining healthy public discourse, and that’s the coordinated and deliberate creation and promotion of false information, including fake screenshots, videos, and technical analysis, accompanied by harassment of partners, promotion of hateful themes, and intimidation of those with opposing views,” the company wrote. It noted that it fully supports people’s “right to speak freely and critically” about the Epic store’s failings, but this isn’t that. This is abuse. Epic intends to “steadfastly support our partners throughout these challenges.” It concluded by thanking people who don’t bully developers and “continue to promote and advocate for healthy, truthful discussion about the games business and stand up to all manners of abuse.” ==== 有點懶得譯.... 簡單來說現在情況就是.... 遊戲開發商:「你們都欺負我...(大哭)」 Epic跳出來:「我會全力支持開發商,同時譴責那些邪惡行為。」 大概就這樣吧! -- 「仗義十年成英雄,入魔只在一念間。」 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.233.148.117 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/C_Chat/M.1565056180.A.0BF.html ※ 編輯: wizardfizban (36.233.148.117 臺灣), 08/06/2019 09:50:04

08/06 09:51, 6年前 , 1F
都是they的錯
08/06 09:51, 1F

08/06 09:52, 6年前 , 2F
STEAM這萬惡帝國怎麼還不島阿 一職欺負小廠太可惡
08/06 09:52, 2F

08/06 09:53, 6年前 , 3F
這嘴臉,你們跟epic還真合,真是做對決策了
08/06 09:53, 3F

08/06 09:53, 6年前 , 4F
就CEO怒嗆這些來罵的都蒸粉 全部一竿子打翻 EZ
08/06 09:53, 4F

08/06 09:56, 6年前 , 5F
都是they的錯
08/06 09:56, 5F

08/06 10:00, 6年前 , 6F
跟EPIC做生意真好 當隻狗就好 LUL
08/06 10:00, 6F

08/06 10:02, 6年前 , 7F
叫你們這些臭肥宅多關心世界錯了嗎
08/06 10:02, 7F

08/06 10:04, 6年前 , 8F
一個裝被欺負的 一個演正義使者 這齣戲唱的真好
08/06 10:04, 8F

08/06 10:06, 6年前 , 9F
放地圖砲了,超棒~~
08/06 10:06, 9F

08/06 10:08, 6年前 , 10F
steam :嗯? 又在上演了? 請繼續你的表演
08/06 10:08, 10F

08/06 10:09, 6年前 , 11F
第一天不是你們要不要繼續支持無所謂嗎 怎麼現在變
08/06 10:09, 11F

08/06 10:09, 6年前 , 12F
哭了兩天了 嗯?
08/06 10:09, 12F

08/06 10:12, 6年前 , 13F
steam真的該島了,處處打壓epicXDDD
08/06 10:12, 13F

08/06 10:13, 6年前 , 14F
嗯呀 突然看到他從噴人狀態變成我哭了二天
08/06 10:13, 14F

08/06 10:13, 6年前 , 15F
然後Epic出來接話譴責....真的有種很老套的感覺
08/06 10:13, 15F

08/06 10:14, 6年前 , 16F
要哭就不要一開始那麼嗆呀...嗆完才在那哭你們欺負
08/06 10:14, 16F

08/06 10:14, 6年前 , 17F
我.....囧"
08/06 10:14, 17F

08/06 10:15, 6年前 , 18F
原本是兩人隊?肯定是Epic派出他們的公關支援了==
08/06 10:15, 18F

08/06 10:16, 6年前 , 19F
悶聲發大財是墜吼的
08/06 10:16, 19F

08/06 10:17, 6年前 , 20F
EPIC的公關根本上課用最標準的負面教材啊
08/06 10:17, 20F

08/06 10:17, 6年前 , 21F
EPIC照妖鏡,什麼醜惡的商人嘴臉
08/06 10:17, 21F

08/06 10:18, 6年前 , 22F
笑死人了,當初噴仇恨言論罵臭嘴狗怎麼不關注氣候變化
08/06 10:18, 22F

08/06 10:18, 6年前 , 23F
的不就是Ooblets跟開發團隊嗎,現在大家噴你就是仇恨
08/06 10:18, 23F

08/06 10:18, 6年前 , 24F
霸凌喔,就你可以噴玩家不行噴,那話都給你說就好啦
08/06 10:18, 24F

08/06 10:20, 6年前 , 25F
去你的濫用言論自由啦。Ooblets這垃圾該好好照鏡子
08/06 10:20, 25F

08/06 10:22, 6年前 , 26F
epic:我家孩子很乖的,都是鋼鐵蒸粉的錯XD
08/06 10:22, 26F

08/06 10:22, 6年前 , 27F
遊戲名字遮起來我還以為是幾個月前的沙木舊聞
08/06 10:22, 27F

08/06 10:57, 6年前 , 28F
贊助你做遊戲結果找到乾爹就一腳踢開
08/06 10:57, 28F

08/06 10:58, 6年前 , 29F
還跟乾爹出來叫囂被霸凌,Steam在旁邊賣遊戲結果莫名中槍
08/06 10:58, 29F

08/06 11:02, 6年前 , 30F
這種發言方式非常中國
08/06 11:02, 30F

08/06 11:03, 6年前 , 31F
我可以嘴你 你回嘴就是邪惡
08/06 11:03, 31F

08/06 11:20, 6年前 , 32F
...我聞到一年左右傾頹的味道。
08/06 11:20, 32F

08/06 11:29, 6年前 , 33F
跟消費者搞到這麼差我看你領一輩子epic補助款過活吧
08/06 11:29, 33F

08/06 11:29, 6年前 , 34F
阿,忘了邪惡的中資epic大概不會養你一輩子就是了ㄎ
08/06 11:29, 34F

08/06 11:30, 6年前 , 35F
誰叫你看到乾爹就貼上去 活該
08/06 11:30, 35F

08/06 11:55, 6年前 , 36F
這是裝出來的吧,想讓輿論風向往自己那邊吹
08/06 11:55, 36F

08/06 11:56, 6年前 , 37F
別忘了前幾天他們可是直說支持者捐的錢根本不夠開發
08/06 11:56, 37F

08/06 11:56, 6年前 , 38F
EPIC給的才夠多,還有我們不欠你遊戲,最好這種人會哭哭啦
08/06 11:56, 38F

08/06 11:57, 6年前 , 39F
擺明就是賺夠了 粉絲干我屁事嘴臉 現在還要哭被攻擊 呵
08/06 11:57, 39F

08/06 11:57, 6年前 , 40F
08/06 11:57, 40F

08/06 11:57, 6年前 , 41F
翻譯都懶ㄛ= =
08/06 11:57, 41F

08/06 11:57, 6年前 , 42F
這大概EPIC教的策略~先裝可憐看能不能改變風向
08/06 11:57, 42F

08/06 11:58, 6年前 , 43F
都嗆人了 怎麼在哭被攻擊
08/06 11:58, 43F

08/06 11:58, 6年前 , 44F
然後最後再把言論帶到檢討STEAM~選我正解
08/06 11:58, 44F

08/06 17:17, 6年前 , 45F
反正氣侯變遷比他們的遊戲重要啊XD
08/06 17:17, 45F

08/06 18:12, 6年前 , 46F
Epic還沒倒唷?
08/06 18:12, 46F
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