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2F推:不過我還是認為砍掉冒險書這不是合理的作法11/11 02:24
3F→:一個可能是 因為原本是密碼系統11/11 02:25
4F→:所以對於固定性的東西都會斤斤計較11/11 02:25
5F推:而且其實種子有機會無限取得的不是嗎?11/11 02:27
6F→:包括大富翁、敵人掉寶等等狀況11/11 02:27
7F→:接下來我會再試試看種子額外加多少會出問題11/11 02:29
8F→:所以如果在遊戲中藉由大富翁或掉寶(有盜賊可偷)11/11 02:30
9F→:獲得過多的額外種子 也是會被砍掉冒險書 這樣嗎?11/11 02:30
10F推:最後還是拜一下有寫過修改器的大神11/11 02:33
18F推:嗯....每個人標準不太一樣11/11 15:40
19F→:如果Enix能有更好的解決方法 他還是會砍掉紀錄嗎?11/11 15:40
20F→:如果砍掉紀錄是Enix本意 後來的DQ也應類似情形會不少11/11 15:41
21F→:而且有好好讀我下面那篇文的話就會發現11/11 15:42
22F→:正常玩的情況下也可能超出種子限制11/11 15:42
23F→:要說這不是bug 除非有製作人親口說明理念11/11 15:42
24F→:如果這是bug反倒可以原諒 本來0 bug就不容易11/11 15:43
25F→:尤其Enix必須挑戰大幅度的壓縮檔11/11 15:43
26F→:所以再強調一次 這bug不是修改才會出現11/11 15:44
27F→:只是修改會讓他更容易出現 如果有看懂B大和我的文章11/11 15:44
28F→:就應該更明白這點11/11 15:45
29F推:其實就算我堅持是bug也無濟於事11/11 15:50
30F→:只是看到有人堅持「不是bug」就會想講幾句話11/11 15:51
31F→:所謂bug不是一定要那種很明顯的、很容易出現的才算11/11 15:51
32F→:廣義的bug也包含程式架構設計上的疏失11/11 15:52
33F→:也不是說出現bug就是濫遊戲11/11 15:53
34F→:畢竟B大也說壓縮有其技術挑戰在11/11 15:53
35F→:雖然最後只有DQ會這樣 但我們無法確知他們背後的辛苦11/11 15:55
36F推:當大家知道一款遊戲要0 bug是很困難的事情後11/11 15:59
37F→:自然就會覺得「可能是bug」也不算什麼11/11 16:00
45F推:為什麼用模擬器玩就不會碰到這問題?11/11 19:04
46F→:大富翁和敵人掉寶不是也可取得種子?11/11 19:05
3F→:是說不能下載嗎? 若是空白畫面按右鍵改編碼成unicode11/10 21:52
5F→:我模擬器是Snes9x 1.5111/10 21:57
11F→:雖然我電腦裡有1.43 不過Vista不能用11/10 22:13
18F→:嗯 不過我以前玩非漢化版本就遇過了11/10 22:48
19F→:所以這次我才會一開始就不嘗試直接修改能力或經驗值11/10 22:49
20F→:看來我還是非得著手從頭嘗試看看11/10 22:49
28F→:剛剛我用手頭上日版冒險書可以正常保存的11/10 23:03
29F→:猛灌智慧種子給lv26的勇者 灌到22x11/10 23:03
30F→:另存冒險書 reset 結果就是紀錄消失11/10 23:04
31F→:原本的冒險書1則是正常保留11/10 23:04
4F→:這樣的話更可能是當初移植沒改乾淨了11/10 18:07
10F→:我是改0A個種子11/10 19:01
17F→:我是鎖住數量沒錯 因為Snes9x鎖住數量比較方便11/10 23:05
2F推:基本上我修改很小心的 如果這情形只是一次就算了11/10 15:24
3F→:不過我每次修改DQ3都必然遇到這種情形11/10 15:25
4F→:所以我個人修改出錯的機會不大11/10 15:25
10F推:其實bug的定義是很廣的11/10 17:41
12F→:可以參考我下篇的內容 有說為何我判斷是bug11/10 18:08
13F→:以我自己寫程式的經驗所判斷的11/10 18:08
15F推:這...我也沒有無視啊 當初我的問題不就是11/10 18:15
16F→:如何修改遊戲記憶讓冒險書不要被判定壞掉?11/10 18:16
17F→:如果你有看我下面那篇文11/10 18:16
18F→:就知道我認為B大說的依然是一種bug11/10 18:16
19F→:只要在正常運作下有可能出現不正常情形者 就是bug11/10 18:18
20F→:DQ在不修改的情況下也會出現這些狀況 不是大家都知道11/10 18:18
21F→:只是我修改讓這些狀況更容易發生而已11/10 18:19
22F→:反之 從程式設計的角度來看11/10 18:19
23F→:藉由修改可能會更容易知道為什麼明明正常遊戲下11/10 18:20
24F→:卻依然可能遇到這樣的狀況11/10 18:20
25F→:然後就可以告訴玩家要避開這些狀況 這是最理想的11/10 18:20
26F→:過去這個bug都被歸咎於硬體導致的bug,11/10 18:21
27F→:但我認為軟體也是要負責任的11/10 18:22
28F→:如果超任其他RPG大作也都會有類似情形 那就是硬體bug11/10 18:22
29F推:不過重點還是能不能救回來啦11/10 18:26
30F→:不行的話那我就只能打到索馬了11/10 18:26
32F推:金手指好像是香港給的稱呼 日本美國都沒有的樣子11/10 16:28
4F→:雖然大家常說這是硬體問題 但我覺得這是軟體問題11/09 23:54
5F→:畢竟其他遊戲很少聽說這種讀取紀錄失敗的例子11/09 23:55
7F→:不是耶 我先前用原本日文就會了11/10 00:19
8F→:不過我也強調可能是種子在短時間內用太多導致的11/10 00:20
9F→:雖然要修改才能做到這樣 不過一般遊戲下11/10 00:21
10F→:極端狀況也可能會出現這種情形...11/10 00:21
11F→:所以每個玩超任DQ的人最怕的東西就是詛咒音樂11/10 00:21
12F→:我相信是DQ在SFC時代的存檔部分程式沒寫好11/10 00:22
13F→:所以我希望看看有沒有人更清楚背後原因11/10 00:23
14F→:日文網頁也可以......11/10 00:23
19F→:不對啦 很多玩家以前小時候都有遇過....11/10 15:22
20F→:但是同樣SFC其他遊戲就不會 算是bug11/10 15:22
21F→:聽說時至今日NDS的reDQ好像也可能出這樣問題?11/10 15:22
24F→:我想砍掉記錄這種作法不是寫得好吧 XD11/10 17:42
3F→:嗯 我已經打倒了 只是想問除了反覆進出外還有甚麼條?11/08 21:08
4F→:剛剛去拿最後鑰匙後居然就到下一階段了 !?11/08 21:09
5F→:我太確定戰鬥場數是否也是推進條件11/08 21:12
7F→:也可能是日夜變化次數要夠多11/08 21:12
9F→:說晚也還好 先到處走走 只是最後才走到北美洲11/08 22:09
10F→:八岐大蛇我也是留到道具屋出現後才去打的11/08 22:09
16F→:那就是最後鑰匙或上船的原因了.....11/09 18:00
17F→:後面幾個階段歐沒這問題11/09 18:00
7F推:佛魯迪七代才登場11/08 19:48
2F→:喔喔 感謝 那這個選項改false有甚麼風險嗎?11/03 18:46
2F→:效果 = Pause/Start鍵嗎? XD10/09 23:33
7F→:喔原來是我miss了, 感謝U大10/09 23:42