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39F推:我其實也覺得規範戰爭暴行也沒啥意義...06/29 23:47
42F→:戰爭在本質上實在是少有不擇手段的企圖06/29 23:48
44F→:我覺得當訴諸戰爭的時候..敗方是真的求助無門06/29 23:49
46F→:實力論者是打敗才要卸責的...06/29 23:50
51F推:如果我們21世紀真有什麼實質仲裁能保護戰敗者...06/29 23:55
54F→:我倒是很樂意吞下這些話..並且慶幸我犯的錯誤..06/29 23:55
57F→:畢竟勝者無須憂慮...能有保護弱者的正義為世間之福06/29 23:56
70F推:我覺得戰爭道德存在的話超越了我們可規範或期的範疇了...06/30 00:00
71F→:若如你所說的：有，而且可實踐...那我覺得萬幸..06/30 00:01
73F→:就跟人類生活品質提高一樣...值得慶幸06/30 00:01
74F→:不過我想不出來在沒有仲裁或者集體性的前提下..06/30 00:01
75F→:我們怎麼實踐這個不殺平民這樣的戰爭道德06/30 00:02
76F→:因為現有的情況除非訴諸溫情..不然最後還是回到實力論06/30 00:02
79F→:也據此我們才難以說「恐怖攻擊」是真的恐怖攻擊06/30 00:03
80F→:因為他們是實力論下的挫敗者..因此他們只有兩個選擇06/30 00:04
82F→:一個是當失敗者認命..另一方面則是改寫實力的定義06/30 00:04
84F→:因此恐怖攻擊明顯的不合所謂的戰爭道德如濫殺平民06/30 00:04
88F→:因為戰爭道德一來輪不到戰敗者書寫，二來也輪不到他實踐06/30 00:05
94F推:實際上戰爭殺不殺人只有需不需要的問題..06/30 00:08
96F→:我很希望我們有你所說的戰爭道德..因為我看我們06/30 00:09
97F→:在實力論的世界當中很容易當戰敗者...06/30 00:09
98F→:但是如果救我的觀點看（如果我的觀點錯了當然是萬幸）06/30 00:09
99F→:戰爭時的道德規範，跟人類的壽命一樣....06/30 00:10
101F→:都無法透過意志去訂定後就獲得....06/30 00:10
105F→:而完全沒有什麼可以依靠或者靠著意志或者宣告可決定的地方06/30 00:10
160F推:我覺得這種歷史現實兩面可舉的栗子正是這個議題06/30 00:43
162F→:是規範無能為力的好典型...如我們也會用宋襄之仁來談06/30 00:44
164F→:如果能有這種可實踐的道德規範當然不錯..畢竟06/30 00:44
166F→:當弱者的機會比當強者多...06/30 00:44
167F→:但是實際上..這個東西可能不是規範所能及之處...06/30 00:45
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