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Re: [新聞] 新北男針灸昏倒!中醫機警叫救護車
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作者: qwer789456 - 發表於 2024/03/21 20:41(1月前)
Re: [問卦] 中醫那麼猛,為啥沒有流行全世界?
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作者: qwer789456 - 發表於 2022/12/15 15:16(1年前)
Re: [問卦] 醫生法律雙執照是不是很厲害?
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作者: qwer789456 - 發表於 2022/11/14 20:05(1年前)
Re: [問卦] 同樣沒三期,為什麼大家相信清冠一號?
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作者: qwer789456 - 發表於 2022/10/07 20:41(1年前)
Re: [問卦] 中醫真的能靠把脈知道女子有沒有懷孕嗎?
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作者: qwer789456 - 發表於 2022/10/07 16:21(1年前)
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[討論] 健保一點一元,獲立院一讀通過
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作者: Redbeansauce - 發表於 2024/04/20 06:35(3天前)
185Fqwer789456: 離三讀還很久04/22 21:16
[新聞] 新北男針灸昏倒!中醫機警叫救護車 真正已刪文
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作者: KZS - 發表於 2024/03/21 12:56(1月前)
298Fqwer789456: 其實所謂的癌症或重大手術術後也不叫27.51.120.124 03/22 08:33
299Fqwer789456: 轉中醫科,絕大部分是因為病人想要中27.51.120.124 03/22 08:33
300Fqwer789456: 醫治療,醫師不會主動轉因為中醫就是27.51.120.124 03/22 08:33
301Fqwer789456: 缺乏實證,Giudeline也沒有建議中醫27.51.120.124 03/22 08:33
302Fqwer789456: 治療,無法改變預後的中醫是可有可無27.51.120.124 03/22 08:33
303Fqwer789456: 的的,尤其如果術後拔不了管或是嚴重27.51.120.124 03/22 08:33
304Fqwer789456: 缺乏營養需要TPN支持的更不需要中醫27.51.120.124 03/22 08:33
305Fqwer789456: 介入,今天大家說的是沒必要轉中醫,27.51.120.124 03/22 08:34
306Fqwer789456: 也就是沒有情況是不轉中醫就會死的病27.51.120.124 03/22 08:34
307Fqwer789456: 危情況。27.51.120.124 03/22 08:34
308Fqwer789456: 西醫的醫療糾紛當然有,但真正有問題27.51.120.124 03/22 08:40
309Fqwer789456: 的比例不多,有問題的是人的問題,比27.51.120.124 03/22 08:40
310Fqwer789456: 如說應注意而未注意,以這個新聞案例27.51.120.124 03/22 08:40
311Fqwer789456: 如果病人是休息中仍然持續胸痛沒什麼27.51.120.124 03/22 08:40
312Fqwer789456: 緩解去看西醫,西醫沒有因為懷疑心肌27.51.120.124 03/22 08:40
313Fqwer789456: 梗塞而做心電圖或是轉送急診,途中發27.51.120.124 03/22 08:40
314Fqwer789456: 生OHCA可能就會被上異常甚至被告。中27.51.120.124 03/22 08:40
315Fqwer789456: 醫理論是古人想像出來的並不符合人體27.51.120.124 03/22 08:41
316Fqwer789456: 實際運作,因此也沒有什麼應注意而未27.51.120.124 03/22 08:41
317Fqwer789456: 注意的客觀事實、不會有guideline或27.51.120.124 03/22 08:41
318Fqwer789456: SOP,當然不會有糾紛,都是自己主觀27.51.120.124 03/22 08:41
319Fqwer789456: 感覺加上辨證想像。27.51.120.124 03/22 08:41
322Fqwer789456: 西醫當然不是萬能,但西醫講邏輯講t27.51.120.124 03/22 08:45
323Fqwer789456: hinking process,光是一張EKG 的hy27.51.120.124 03/22 08:45
324Fqwer789456: peracute T沒看出來導致病人IIHCA都27.51.120.124 03/22 08:45
325Fqwer789456: 會在MM上拿出來電跟檢討。西醫不是萬27.51.120.124 03/22 08:45
326Fqwer789456: 能也不代表中醫可行,中醫被檢討不應27.51.120.124 03/22 08:45
327Fqwer789456: 該說西醫非萬能,而是要檢視自己有沒27.51.120.124 03/22 08:46
328Fqwer789456: 有實證27.51.120.124 03/22 08:46
331Fqwer789456: 有足夠實證能改變預後就會寫進Guide27.51.120.124 03/22 11:17
332Fqwer789456: line,不用講什麼西醫寫的,西醫看的27.51.120.124 03/22 11:17
333Fqwer789456: 是實證27.51.120.124 03/22 11:17
334Fqwer789456: 以目前實證,得癌症根本不需要中醫,27.51.120.124 03/22 11:18
335Fqwer789456: 自己親人癌症也沒在用中醫的27.51.120.124 03/22 11:18
339Fqwer789456: 先去看實證醫學文獻哦27.51.120.124 03/22 11:46
340Fqwer789456: 看起來您不太了解實證醫學,藥物濃度27.51.120.124 03/22 11:49
341Fqwer789456: 致死量也是有研究的,實證醫學就是看27.51.120.124 03/22 11:50
342Fqwer789456: 醫療介入有沒有改善預後,高品質的研27.51.120.124 03/22 11:50
343Fqwer789456: 究樣本不會只有幾個人27.51.120.124 03/22 11:50
344Fqwer789456: 原來讀書加無數臨床實務經驗也叫洗腦27.51.120.124 03/22 11:55
345Fqwer789456: 死讀書,沒看教科書沒看論文沒看Gui27.51.120.124 03/22 11:55
346Fqwer789456: deline也沒臨床實務經驗叫做什麼呢?27.51.120.124 03/22 11:55
347Fqwer789456: 實證還是無數專家經過臨床經驗以及臨27.51.120.124 03/22 11:58
348Fqwer789456: 床搜救的data所得出來的結果,居然有27.51.120.124 03/22 11:58
349Fqwer789456: 人說死讀書洗腦 哈27.51.120.124 03/22 11:58
350Fqwer789456: 驗證過程本來就不是0跟1,所以才不斷27.51.120.124 03/22 12:00
351Fqwer789456: 需要實證來研究,也沒有人說實證就是27.51.120.124 03/22 12:00
352Fqwer789456: 0跟1,在眾多不確定因素下就是需要實27.51.120.124 03/22 12:00
353Fqwer789456: 證來找出更為可行的方法27.51.120.124 03/22 12:01
357Fqwer789456: 醫學就是使用統計學的科學,所以才有27.51.120.124 03/22 12:21
358Fqwer789456: 實證醫學去用統計學驗證是否成功,懂27.51.120.124 03/22 12:21
359Fqwer789456: 嗎27.51.120.124 03/22 12:21
360Fqwer789456: 科學是可否證可證偽,不是不能失敗。27.51.120.124 03/22 12:27
361Fqwer789456: 可以藉由驗證來否證27.51.120.124 03/22 12:27
386Fqwer789456: 現在中醫系都要學內外科消化循環系統27.51.120.124 03/22 13:27
387Fqwer789456: 跟臨床實習然後呢?那些走中醫的內科27.51.120.124 03/22 13:27
388Fqwer789456: 病房問題還是不會處理啊,真正西醫訓27.51.120.124 03/22 13:27
389Fqwer789456: 練也是在畢業之後,住院醫師期間讀的27.51.120.124 03/22 13:27
390Fqwer789456: 書和臨床實務磨練才算開始,大學課程27.51.120.124 03/22 13:27
391Fqwer789456: 都是皮毛中的皮毛而已。內科最基本要27.51.120.124 03/22 13:27
392Fqwer789456: 會處理的中醫能處理幾個?光胸痛鑑別27.51.120.124 03/22 13:27
393Fqwer789456: 診斷、心肌梗塞處理就不行了27.51.120.124 03/22 13:27
397Fqwer789456: 科學當然不只有統計學,但臨床研究非27.51.120.124 03/22 13:44
398Fqwer789456: 常需要統計學的。中醫學和中藥也是千27.51.120.124 03/22 13:44
399Fqwer789456: 百年驗證才證明療效?過去千百年什麼27.51.120.124 03/22 13:44
401Fqwer789456: 沒有用嚴格的統計方法驗證,都是淪為27.51.120.124 03/22 13:44
402Fqwer789456: 想像、主觀感覺,這也叫驗證證明嗎。27.51.120.124 03/22 13:44
403Fqwer789456: 如果要說現代國內外中醫論文,絕大部27.51.120.124 03/22 13:44
404Fqwer789456: 分也沒辦法當作實證支持,不是沒有顯27.51.120.124 03/22 13:44
405Fqwer789456: 著效果不然就是研究品質不夠好哦~27.51.120.124 03/22 13:45
406Fqwer789456: 不管你怎麼說西醫就是有拿得出像樣實27.51.120.124 03/22 13:45
408Fqwer789456: 證,隨便舉都有什麼DAPA-CKD、DAPA-27.51.120.124 03/22 13:45
409Fqwer789456: HF、STEP trial、ISIS Trial等等。你27.51.120.124 03/22 13:45
410Fqwer789456: 的國內外中醫論文有這種等級的嗎(笑27.51.120.124 03/22 13:45
411Fqwer789456: ,等你拿出來哦~27.51.120.124 03/22 13:45
415Fqwer789456: 美國沒有中醫係沒有中醫師,美國只有27.51.120.124 03/22 13:46
416Fqwer789456: 針灸技術員。日本也沒有中醫系,日本27.51.120.124 03/22 13:47
417Fqwer789456: 全部都是西醫27.51.120.124 03/22 13:47
421Fqwer789456: 衛福部又不是全憑科學做事,清冠一號27.51.120.124 03/22 13:49
422Fqwer789456: 的證據那種品質也在推是多科學。27.51.120.124 03/22 13:49
427Fqwer789456: 臨床實務就是看證據啊,絕大多數就是27.51.120.124 03/22 13:50
428Fqwer789456: 看原文Guideline你不知道嗎27.51.120.124 03/22 13:51
429Fqwer789456: 可以去腫瘤科病房看看哦,很多癌症病27.51.120.124 03/22 13:51
430Fqwer789456: 人在西醫治療下是很穩定的27.51.120.124 03/22 13:51
435Fqwer789456: 問比奇美長榮北醫的院長都專業蠻奇怪27.51.120.124 03/22 13:55
436Fqwer789456: 的,就算醫學中心資深主治醫師面對想27.51.120.124 03/22 13:55
438Fqwer789456: 看中醫的嚴重心衰竭住院病人也是拒絕27.51.120.124 03/22 13:55
439Fqwer789456: 啊,又不是誰厲不厲害,thinking pr27.51.120.124 03/22 13:55
440Fqwer789456: ocess跟Evidence才是支持臨床實務的27.51.120.124 03/22 13:55
441Fqwer789456: 根據,懂了嗎27.51.120.124 03/22 13:55
444Fqwer789456: 中醫愛好華人辦的啊,他想怎麼叫是他27.51.120.124 03/22 13:57
445Fqwer789456: 的事啊XD 美國就是沒有中醫師啊,他27.51.120.124 03/22 13:57
446Fqwer789456: 們只有Acupuncturist27.51.120.124 03/22 13:57
448Fqwer789456: 你縮了吧,趕快舉出跟DAPA-HF同等級27.51.120.124 03/22 13:58
449Fqwer789456: 的中醫研究論文吧27.51.120.124 03/22 13:58
451Fqwer789456: PARAGON-HF trial、哎呦 我又講了一27.51.120.124 03/22 14:00
452Fqwer789456: 個,你的寶貝中醫超強trial呢27.51.120.124 03/22 14:00
458Fqwer789456: 不用拿北榮院長,最專業的專家就是寫27.51.120.124 03/22 14:04
459Fqwer789456: Guideline、教科書跟實證文獻的人,27.51.120.124 03/22 14:04
460Fqwer789456: 北榮院長有這些大咖老外專業嗎?奇美27.51.120.124 03/22 14:04
461Fqwer789456: 北榮北醫院長看到西醫主治醫師拒絕病27.51.120.124 03/22 14:04
462Fqwer789456: 人看中醫都照guideline治療會電他們27.51.120.124 03/22 14:04
463Fqwer789456: 嗎XD27.51.120.124 03/22 14:04
468Fqwer789456: 隨便一個內科西醫師住院病人讓中醫師27.51.120.124 03/22 14:06
470Fqwer789456: 去守就知道囉,還是中醫師去急診隨機27.51.120.124 03/22 14:06
471Fqwer789456: 撈病人來診治也可以證明中醫師多有本27.51.120.124 03/22 14:06
472Fqwer789456: 事啊27.51.120.124 03/22 14:06
476Fqwer789456: 西醫就是比中醫強啊。中醫才在吹自己27.51.120.124 03/22 14:09
477Fqwer789456: 不像西醫分科看全身,結果心肌梗塞沒27.51.120.124 03/22 14:09
479Fqwer789456: 辦法處理(笑27.51.120.124 03/22 14:09
481Fqwer789456: 中醫也是可有可無的東西,根本不會改27.51.120.124 03/22 14:10
482Fqwer789456: 變預後,哪個疾病不用中醫治療會死?27.51.120.124 03/22 14:10
484Fqwer789456: 你的中醫國內外論文呢?跟DAPA-HF同27.51.120.124 03/22 14:10
485Fqwer789456: 等級的就好27.51.120.124 03/22 14:11
487Fqwer789456: 西醫看實證哪是在吹,中醫沒實證講得27.51.120.124 03/22 14:11
488Fqwer789456: 多厲害才叫吹吧27.51.120.124 03/22 14:12
495Fqwer789456: 有中醫科不代表什麼啊,那些中醫科能27.51.120.124 03/22 14:14
496Fqwer789456: 不能守住住院病人都是問題欸,不是因27.51.120.124 03/22 14:15
497Fqwer789456: 為中醫有實證才有中醫的,是因為民眾27.51.120.124 03/22 14:15
498Fqwer789456: 想看才有中醫的,不然中醫遇到999急27.51.120.124 03/22 14:15
500Fqwer789456: 救是中醫救還是西醫救?光是簡單發燒27.51.120.124 03/22 14:15
501Fqwer789456: 心跳快,中醫科都直送急診了27.51.120.124 03/22 14:15
503Fqwer789456: 但是有中醫科有收住院病人欸27.51.120.124 03/22 14:16
505Fqwer789456: 不看急診,內科住院問題也不會,長期27.51.120.124 03/22 14:17
506Fqwer789456: 治療的預後也沒實證支持,到底能幹嘛27.51.120.124 03/22 14:17
509Fqwer789456: 拿不出實證只能說人低能,自介嗎27.51.120.124 03/22 14:18
510Fqwer789456: 但就是沒有實證 哈哈哈27.51.120.124 03/22 14:19
522Fqwer789456: 不要急著自介,等你拿出Guideline或27.51.120.124 03/22 15:35
523Fqwer789456: 是DAPA-HF這類等級的文獻再來也不急27.51.120.124 03/22 15:35
524Fqwer789456: 哪個中醫藥,青蒿素?人家用西方科學27.51.120.124 03/22 15:38
525Fqwer789456: 分析的,而且傳統中醫也不是用青蒿是27.51.120.124 03/22 15:38
526Fqwer789456: 用黃花蒿哦。中醫遇到發燒也診斷不出27.51.120.124 03/22 15:38
527Fqwer789456: 瘧疾,要怎麼用青蒿素XD 不明原因發27.51.120.124 03/22 15:39
528Fqwer789456: 燒就急著轉西醫急診了27.51.120.124 03/22 15:39
529Fqwer789456: 看看西醫臨床都在用什麼就知道了,衛27.51.120.124 03/22 15:40
530Fqwer789456: 福部中醫藥研究再怎麼用科學方法研究27.51.120.124 03/22 15:40
531Fqwer789456: ,就是沒在Guideline裡面XD27.51.120.124 03/22 15:40
532Fqwer789456: 內科學聖經、各內科心臟科腸胃科腎臟27.51.120.124 03/22 15:44
533Fqwer789456: 科等等Guideline教科書聖經也看不到27.51.120.124 03/22 15:44
534Fqwer789456: 。連貧血、心肌梗塞這種內科基本題都27.51.120.124 03/22 15:45
535Fqwer789456: 不會評估處理就不用拿衛福部中醫研究27.51.120.124 03/22 15:45
536Fqwer789456: 來當擋箭牌了XD 真正的臨床就是沒在27.51.120.124 03/22 15:45
537Fqwer789456: 用中醫27.51.120.124 03/22 15:45
554Fqwer789456: 那就看美國人用什麼方法料理啊,如果27.51.120.124 03/22 16:31
555Fqwer789456: 用台灣料理方法那就台灣料理啊。就像27.51.120.124 03/22 16:31
556Fqwer789456: 屠呦呦用科學方法分析那就不是中醫了27.51.120.124 03/22 16:31
557Fqwer789456: ,你的例子完全印證我講的,青蒿素用27.51.120.124 03/22 16:32
558Fqwer789456: 在臨床也完全是西醫模式,瘧疾如何診27.51.120.124 03/22 16:32
559Fqwer789456: 斷,診斷出瘧疾選擇青蒿素或奎寧等等27.51.120.124 03/22 16:32
560Fqwer789456: 藥物,哪一步驟跟中醫有關?難道還在27.51.120.124 03/22 16:32
561Fqwer789456: 那邊陰陽寒熱?27.51.120.124 03/22 16:32
562Fqwer789456: 藥物就是藥物,藥物無分中西,端看怎27.51.120.124 03/22 16:33
563Fqwer789456: 麼去解釋,柳樹皮可以是巫醫用藥,也27.51.120.124 03/22 16:34
564Fqwer789456: 可以是西醫乙醯水楊酸27.51.120.124 03/22 16:34
565Fqwer789456: 屠呦呦跟中國方當然聲稱是歸功於中醫27.51.120.124 03/22 16:38
566Fqwer789456: ,支持中醫的當然這樣講,但這就跟台27.51.120.124 03/22 16:38
567Fqwer789456: 灣人西班牙式料理方式做海鮮飯還說是27.51.120.124 03/22 16:38
568Fqwer789456: 台式炒飯一樣27.51.120.124 03/22 16:39
569Fqwer789456: 說人無知又低能,結果考不上醫學系當27.51.120.124 03/22 16:39
570Fqwer789456: 不了醫師 哈27.51.120.124 03/22 16:40
571Fqwer789456: 我也沒說衛福部不具科學專業,別滑坡27.51.120.124 03/22 16:43
572Fqwer789456: 了,也不是衛福部每個人都做中醫藥研27.51.120.124 03/22 16:43
574Fqwer789456: 究。中醫藥研究的人那麼厲害,西醫全27.51.120.124 03/22 16:43
575Fqwer789456: 關起來,COVID重症給這些你的寶貝中27.51.120.124 03/22 16:43
576Fqwer789456: 醫藥專家治療 看看能守幾成啊XD27.51.120.124 03/22 16:43
577Fqwer789456: 是你吧27.51.120.124 03/22 16:44
578Fqwer789456: 別自介了27.51.120.124 03/22 16:45
583Fqwer789456: 他本人講又如何…27.51.120.124 03/22 16:46
584Fqwer789456: 這就跟拿台灣米做日式海鮮丼醋飯還說27.51.120.124 03/22 16:46
585Fqwer789456: 是台灣料理一樣欸,跟仇中有什麼關係27.51.120.124 03/22 16:47
586Fqwer789456: ?27.51.120.124 03/22 16:47
587Fqwer789456: 又滑坡了…27.51.120.124 03/22 16:47
595Fqwer789456: 所以她有比感染科專家還專業,知道瘧27.51.120.124 03/22 16:50
596Fqwer789456: 疾怎麼診斷治療? 比哪個人比較強是27.51.120.124 03/22 16:50
597Fqwer789456: 你吧27.51.120.124 03/22 16:50
602Fqwer789456: 一直講我有沒有比誰誰誰更專業真的無27.51.120.124 03/22 16:52
603Fqwer789456: 聊,西醫都是看經過科學方法實證的內27.51.120.124 03/22 16:52
604Fqwer789456: 容,好嗎27.51.120.124 03/22 16:52
608Fqwer789456: 不需要認同我啊,我講的都是全世界最27.51.120.124 03/22 16:53
609Fqwer789456: 厲害的專家寫的聖經跟guideline27.51.120.124 03/22 16:53
611Fqwer789456: 西醫比中醫強沒錯啊,又不是我比誰強27.51.120.124 03/22 16:54
614Fqwer789456: 但是寫guideline跟聖經是最專業的,27.51.120.124 03/22 16:55
615Fqwer789456: 臨床看他們寫的不會是中醫的東西XD27.51.120.124 03/22 16:55
619Fqwer789456: 真正的臨床實務還有醫師之間的討論都27.51.120.124 03/22 16:56
620Fqwer789456: 是拿專家寫的guideline跟各種厲害的27.51.120.124 03/22 16:56
621Fqwer789456: 實證研究哦27.51.120.124 03/22 16:56
628Fqwer789456: 西醫就是比中醫強,心肌梗塞內科基本27.51.120.124 03/22 16:58
629Fqwer789456: 題都拿不到的中醫洗洗睡啦,不用東扯27.51.120.124 03/22 16:58
630Fqwer789456: 西扯27.51.120.124 03/22 16:59
631Fqwer789456: 有人還想拉衛福部中醫藥研究人墊背X27.51.120.124 03/22 16:59
632Fqwer789456: D27.51.120.124 03/22 16:59
634Fqwer789456: 誰腦羞聰明人都看得出來,不是我XD27.51.120.124 03/22 17:00
641Fqwer789456: 一堆很會顧病人的內科醫師大概都被你27.51.120.124 03/22 17:02
642Fqwer789456: 認為不專業 真好笑27.51.120.124 03/22 17:02
643Fqwer789456: 就是腦羞才會扯別人不夠專業 哈哈哈27.51.120.124 03/22 17:03
646Fqwer789456: 沒臨床經驗沒看西醫聖經Guideline說27.51.120.124 03/22 17:04
647Fqwer789456: 人不專業 你好尊重專業耶27.51.120.124 03/22 17:04
648Fqwer789456: 整天自介(笑27.51.120.124 03/22 17:04
661Fqwer789456: 清冠一號的研究實證等級不高啊,我需27.51.120.124 03/22 17:13
662Fqwer789456: 要講什麼嗎?國際在中醫研究絕大部分27.51.120.124 03/22 17:13
663Fqwer789456: 也是愛好中醫華人日韓的小圈圈在關注27.51.120.124 03/22 17:13
664Fqwer789456: ,西醫根本沒在鳥中醫的好嗎。還我否27.51.120.124 03/22 17:13
665Fqwer789456: 定我國中醫藥研究成果,連我國治療指27.51.120.124 03/22 17:13
666Fqwer789456: 引都沒列入中醫藥治療,還是你要改稱27.51.120.124 03/22 17:13
667Fqwer789456: 我國衛福部自打臉?27.51.120.124 03/22 17:14
673Fqwer789456: 現行所有中醫系學生有這些臨床經驗?27.51.120.124 03/22 17:17
674Fqwer789456: ??沒有的東西不要幫他們背書好嗎X27.51.120.124 03/22 17:17
675Fqwer789456: DD 還是你要隨便拉一個中醫系學生問27.51.120.124 03/22 17:17
676Fqwer789456: 問看一個內科基本題看看會不會處理X27.51.120.124 03/22 17:17
677Fqwer789456: D27.51.120.124 03/22 17:17
685Fqwer789456: 我縮了什麼? 就沒在用中醫藥的東西27.51.120.124 03/22 17:19
686Fqwer789456: 啊XD 病人心肌梗塞要求看中醫也會拒27.51.120.124 03/22 17:19
687Fqwer789456: 絕啊XD27.51.120.124 03/22 17:19
688Fqwer789456: 是你要拿出跟DAPA-HF同等級的中醫pa27.51.120.124 03/22 17:20
689Fqwer789456: per吧,我還在等欸27.51.120.124 03/22 17:20
691Fqwer789456: 從前面就問跟DAPA-HF同等級的中醫pa27.51.120.124 03/22 17:22
693Fqwer789456: per,一直縮跟跳針又轉移焦點,到現27.51.120.124 03/22 17:22
695Fqwer789456: 在就是拿不出來27.51.120.124 03/22 17:22
699Fqwer789456: 有證據的西醫當然比沒實證的中醫強啊27.51.120.124 03/22 17:23
703Fqwer789456: 沒實證的東西在醫學上就是比較弱27.51.120.124 03/22 17:24
707Fqwer789456: 沒證據的中醫還有人要挺 笑爛27.51.120.124 03/22 17:25
712Fqwer789456: 實際上就是西醫比中醫強啦27.51.120.124 03/22 17:27
716Fqwer789456: 講出來還要怕有人玻璃心XD27.51.120.124 03/22 17:28
720Fqwer789456: 正確科學精神就是看實證看證據以及根27.51.120.124 03/22 17:29
721Fqwer789456: 據病生理學有清楚的thinking proces27.51.120.124 03/22 17:29
722Fqwer789456: s27.51.120.124 03/22 17:29
723Fqwer789456: 講出西醫比中醫強這種實話就有人激動27.51.120.124 03/22 17:30
725Fqwer789456: 成這樣XD27.51.120.124 03/22 17:30
731Fqwer789456: 誰跟你二元論,又在自介了,科學就是27.51.120.124 03/22 17:32
732Fqwer789456: 不斷找出更好的理論而已,不好的就被27.51.120.124 03/22 17:32
733Fqwer789456: 拋棄掉27.51.120.124 03/22 17:32
734Fqwer789456: 該不會又一個中醫生不知道西醫比中醫27.51.120.124 03/22 17:33
736Fqwer789456: 強,整天以為中醫多行XD27.51.120.124 03/22 17:33
739Fqwer789456: 我知道很多外國大老有寫中醫目前缺乏27.51.120.124 03/22 17:34
740Fqwer789456: 實證以支持當作治療的內容27.51.120.124 03/22 17:34
744Fqwer789456: 你講的才是你的幻想,當不了西醫師整27.51.120.124 03/22 17:35
746Fqwer789456: 天幻想27.51.120.124 03/22 17:35
748Fqwer789456: 也不知道國際上真正的醫學專家都在討27.51.120.124 03/22 17:36
749Fqwer789456: 論什麼27.51.120.124 03/22 17:36
750Fqwer789456: 沒證據的東西就是弱啊 懷疑啊27.51.120.124 03/22 17:36
754Fqwer789456: 中醫弱到外國大老根本沒必要特別講好27.51.120.124 03/22 17:38
755Fqwer789456: 嗎 在美國中醫就是替代醫療,根本沒27.51.120.124 03/22 17:38
756Fqwer789456: 被列入正統醫學現代醫學裡面27.51.120.124 03/22 17:38
760Fqwer789456: 證據不足的研究本來就會被批評,西醫27.51.120.124 03/22 17:39
761Fqwer789456: 研究也是一樣,還在東扯西扯27.51.120.124 03/22 17:39
764Fqwer789456: 中醫就是弱,還在玻璃心..27.51.120.124 03/22 17:40
767Fqwer789456: 沒有臨床經驗還敢說大話說人不專業還27.51.120.124 03/22 17:41
768Fqwer789456: 人身攻擊27.51.120.124 03/22 17:41
769Fqwer789456: 看看中醫支持者這種水準 哈27.51.120.124 03/22 17:41
772Fqwer789456: 整天自介不累嗎27.51.120.124 03/22 17:41
775Fqwer789456: 有人不願意面對事實啊27.51.120.124 03/22 17:42
776Fqwer789456: 慘27.51.120.124 03/22 17:42
779Fqwer789456: 等你親自治療過心肌梗塞、COVID重症27.51.120.124 03/22 17:43
780Fqwer789456: 病人再來啦,等級還不夠呢XD27.51.120.124 03/22 17:43
785Fqwer789456: 難怪考不到醫學系 哈27.51.120.124 03/22 17:44
787Fqwer789456: 到現在連DAPA-HF同等級中醫文獻都拿27.51.120.124 03/22 17:45
788Fqwer789456: 不出來27.51.120.124 03/22 17:45
793Fqwer789456: 拿不出來就是拿不出來,中醫果然弱27.51.120.124 03/22 17:49
794Fqwer789456: 呵27.51.120.124 03/22 17:49
805Fqwer789456: 真的玻璃心XD 中醫證據就是弱27.51.120.124 03/22 17:55
806Fqwer789456: 沒證據的東西還不敢別人批判 好科學27.51.120.124 03/22 17:57
807Fqwer789456: ,中醫自尊心爆棚27.51.120.124 03/22 17:57
808Fqwer789456: 誰要學針灸這種證據等級不高的東西X27.51.120.124 03/22 17:58
809Fqwer789456: D27.51.120.124 03/22 17:58
813Fqwer789456: 事實上真正的臨床就是沒有什麼用,G27.51.120.124 03/22 18:01
814Fqwer789456: uideline也沒有,就是這麼簡單 哈27.51.120.124 03/22 18:01
818Fqwer789456: 西醫比中醫強啊 是事實 我講過27.51.120.124 03/22 18:02
824Fqwer789456: 不重要,因為實際臨床中醫就是沒有影27.51.120.124 03/22 18:03
825Fqwer789456: 響力,這才是現實27.51.120.124 03/22 18:03
826Fqwer789456: 到現在不認清現實不太好哦27.51.120.124 03/22 18:03
827Fqwer789456: 翻開內科學的書,沒有一項是中醫能處27.51.120.124 03/22 18:04
828Fqwer789456: 理的 哈哈哈哈27.51.120.124 03/22 18:04
832Fqwer789456: 中醫部住院病人發燒就只會送急診 哇27.51.120.124 03/22 18:05
833Fqwer789456: 嗚27.51.120.124 03/22 18:05
834Fqwer789456: 心跳快也要送急診,說好的現在全國中27.51.120.124 03/22 18:06
835Fqwer789456: 醫系學生都有這些臨床經驗呢27.51.120.124 03/22 18:06
837Fqwer789456: 哇 好強哦27.51.120.124 03/22 18:06
839Fqwer789456: 這些都是中醫部真實發生的事情啊 哈27.51.120.124 03/22 18:07
840Fqwer789456: 哈哈27.51.120.124 03/22 18:07
843Fqwer789456: 隨便一個意識改變就叫急救,到場以為27.51.120.124 03/22 18:08
844Fqwer789456: 是心臟跳停,結果根本還好,基本處置27.51.120.124 03/22 18:08
845Fqwer789456: survey都不行..27.51.120.124 03/22 18:08
847Fqwer789456: 你就講講看,你聲稱的全國中醫系學生27.51.120.124 03/22 18:09
848Fqwer789456: 有這些臨床經驗,怎麼中醫住院醫師不27.51.120.124 03/22 18:09
849Fqwer789456: 會處理心跳快?27.51.120.124 03/22 18:09
851Fqwer789456: 還直送急診27.51.120.124 03/22 18:09
857Fqwer789456: 你不僅沒有自己paper 也拿不出中醫高27.51.120.124 03/22 18:11
859Fqwer789456: 品質實證文獻27.51.120.124 03/22 18:11
863Fqwer789456: 看誰比較強當然看誰的實證多誰的實證27.51.120.124 03/22 18:12
864Fqwer789456: 強誰的臨床處理能力,問我有沒有pap27.51.120.124 03/22 18:12
865Fqwer789456: er有什麼問題呢27.51.120.124 03/22 18:13
867Fqwer789456: 就是因為你已經知道中醫缺乏這些又不27.51.120.124 03/22 18:13
868Fqwer789456: 肯承認,只能轉移焦點後人身攻擊27.51.120.124 03/22 18:13
870Fqwer789456: 沒有親自治療內科病人的傢伙敢說別人27.51.120.124 03/22 18:14
872Fqwer789456: 弱27.51.120.124 03/22 18:14
875Fqwer789456: 中醫系真是慘27.51.120.124 03/22 18:14
880Fqwer789456: 不會顧病人就安靜就好 還自以為耶27.51.120.124 03/22 18:16
881Fqwer789456: 在這邊暴露自己不會臨床是嗎27.51.120.124 03/22 18:17
892Fqwer789456: 我不是護士啊….又在那邊幻想欸27.51.120.124 03/22 19:04
893Fqwer789456: 被電的是你吧,連跟DAPA-HF同等級的27.51.120.124 03/22 19:05
894Fqwer789456: 中醫paper都拿不出來很慘27.51.120.124 03/22 19:05
895Fqwer789456: 不懂臨床醫學實務被電很正常 哈27.51.120.124 03/22 19:06
896Fqwer789456: 講出中醫缺乏實證 證據弱事實,還扯27.51.120.124 03/22 19:07
897Fqwer789456: 尊不尊重27.51.120.124 03/22 19:07
898Fqwer789456: 我是執業醫師欸,論經驗跟專業你真的27.51.120.124 03/22 19:08
899Fqwer789456: 不要太自以為27.51.120.124 03/22 19:08
900Fqwer789456: 一個非西醫師在那邊秀 真有趣27.51.120.124 03/22 19:09
901Fqwer789456: 搞不好還是個中醫生,看那些中醫住院27.51.120.124 03/22 19:11
902Fqwer789456: 醫師不會處理心跳快直送急診就好笑,27.51.120.124 03/22 19:11
903Fqwer789456: 某人還在這邊講全國中醫系學生都有這27.51.120.124 03/22 19:11
904Fqwer789456: 些臨床經驗 哈哈哈哈27.51.120.124 03/22 19:11
925Fqwer789456: 拿不出中醫paper只好腦羞問這些XD125.228.162.214 03/22 20:15
926Fqwer789456: 難怪考不上醫學系當醫師125.228.162.214 03/22 20:15
930Fqwer789456: 不用再凹了啦,因為中醫證據弱所以西125.228.162.214 03/22 20:20
932Fqwer789456: 醫臨床不會去看中醫的東西125.228.162.214 03/22 20:20
934Fqwer789456: 改變不了西醫比中醫強的事實^^125.228.162.214 03/22 20:21
937Fqwer789456: 比不上大老,但西醫還是比中醫強~125.228.162.214 03/22 20:21
940Fqwer789456: 那以後救護車直送中醫好嗎XD125.228.162.214 03/22 20:22
944Fqwer789456: 不要轉移焦點,中醫就是比西醫弱125.228.162.214 03/22 20:24
945Fqwer789456: 有人急了XD125.228.162.214 03/22 20:24
950Fqwer789456: 能處理的問題比西醫少,能處理的問題125.228.162.214 03/22 20:25
952Fqwer789456: 嚴重度低很多,沒有確切實證,到底覺125.228.162.214 03/22 20:25
953Fqwer789456: 得沒比西醫弱的自信在哪XD125.228.162.214 03/22 20:25
960Fqwer789456: 事實是什麼跟我在哪裡工作有什麼關係125.228.162.214 03/22 20:28
961Fqwer789456: 呢125.228.162.214 03/22 20:28
963Fqwer789456: 這就叫轉移焦點125.228.162.214 03/22 20:29
965Fqwer789456: 誰都可以有評讀醫學實證文獻的能力,125.228.162.214 03/22 20:30
966Fqwer789456: 而且證據等級在哪大家都知道,不用什125.228.162.214 03/22 20:30
967Fqwer789456: 麼權威去訂證據等級125.228.162.214 03/22 20:30
971Fqwer789456: 對啊 以後你不要看西醫,如果發生任125.228.162.214 03/22 20:30
973Fqwer789456: 何事直送中醫診所就好^^125.228.162.214 03/22 20:31
974Fqwer789456: 蛤 要背說明書?難道Giudeline你看不125.228.162.214 03/22 20:31
975Fqwer789456: 到嗎125.228.162.214 03/22 20:31
976Fqwer789456: 中醫paper證據品質高不高你不知道嗎125.228.162.214 03/22 20:32
980Fqwer789456: 中醫系學生不管哪家都有這種中醫自信125.228.162.214 03/22 20:32
982Fqwer789456: 爆棚的傢伙125.228.162.214 03/22 20:32
984Fqwer789456: 西醫不萬能 但比中醫強太多了125.228.162.214 03/22 20:33
987Fqwer789456: 就應注意而未注意的醫療疏失啊125.228.162.214 03/22 23:34
988Fqwer789456: 真的你可以一輩子拒絕西醫125.228.162.214 03/22 23:34
990Fqwer789456: 人為疏失是一回事我也不否認,但西醫125.228.162.214 03/22 23:35
991Fqwer789456: 就是比中醫強125.228.162.214 03/22 23:35
995Fqwer789456: 慘 不肯面對事實125.228.162.214 03/22 23:36
996Fqwer789456: 救護車以後直送中醫再來談125.228.162.214 03/22 23:36
997Fqwer789456: 中醫愛好者小圈圈才是象牙塔吧125.228.162.214 03/22 23:37
998Fqwer789456: 缺乏實證,又不敢聽別人講缺乏實證125.228.162.214 03/22 23:37
1002Fqwer789456: 保證傷寒論黃帝內經互相取暖,也不清125.228.162.214 03/22 23:38
1003Fqwer789456: 楚真實醫學發展到哪裡125.228.162.214 03/22 23:38
1004Fqwer789456: 我沒有說我沒有學術價值啊,我是說根125.228.162.214 03/22 23:39
1005Fqwer789456: 本無關。我有無學術價值也不改變中醫125.228.162.214 03/22 23:39
1006Fqwer789456: 比西醫弱的事實125.228.162.214 03/22 23:39
1009Fqwer789456: 他本來就很弱不會因為我變弱,他就是125.228.162.214 03/22 23:40
1011Fqwer789456: 缺乏實證是替代醫療125.228.162.214 03/22 23:40
1013Fqwer789456: 你大概不知道真正醫學訓練是在畢業後125.228.162.214 03/22 23:41
1014Fqwer789456: 開始?125.228.162.214 03/22 23:41
1018Fqwer789456: 什麼叫現代科學新教材XD 是跑去讀Ha125.228.162.214 03/22 23:42
1019Fqwer789456: rrison讀一堆guideline?125.228.162.214 03/22 23:42
1020Fqwer789456: 絕對不只是系統差別,一個是根據生物125.228.162.214 03/22 23:43
1021Fqwer789456: 醫學以及實證醫學比較符合真實人體狀125.228.162.214 03/22 23:43
1022Fqwer789456: 況的125.228.162.214 03/22 23:43
1023Fqwer789456: 一個是拿古人想像的東西 再經過沒實125.228.162.214 03/22 23:44
1024Fqwer789456: 證的近代學者改變原來作者意思的中基125.228.162.214 03/22 23:45
1025Fqwer789456: 好意思說只是不同系統XD125.228.162.214 03/22 23:45
1027Fqwer789456: 沒比較弱怎麼不治療心肌梗塞125.228.162.214 03/22 23:46
1030Fqwer789456: 不用查啊 我有認識的人念長庚中醫啊125.228.162.214 03/22 23:47
1033Fqwer789456: 大學用什麼教材不重要 畢業後進臨床125.228.162.214 03/22 23:48
1034Fqwer789456: 都是重新開始125.228.162.214 03/22 23:49
1035Fqwer789456: 所以現在沒在用四元素了啊,中醫理論125.228.162.214 03/22 23:49
1036Fqwer789456: 等級就跟四元素一樣 懂嗎125.228.162.214 03/22 23:49
1038Fqwer789456: 現代醫學基礎又不是四元素說125.228.162.214 03/22 23:50
1041Fqwer789456: 傷寒論不是古書?125.228.162.214 03/22 23:50
1042Fqwer789456: 本來就不重要了,不然拉中醫系學生去125.228.162.214 03/22 23:51
1043Fqwer789456: 值班守病房啊,看看thinking proces125.228.162.214 03/22 23:51
1045Fqwer789456: 能有多好 嘻嘻125.228.162.214 03/22 23:52
1047Fqwer789456: 沒進過臨床拿著大學教材耀武揚威 真125.228.162.214 03/22 23:53
1048Fqwer789456: 的是小朋友XDD125.228.162.214 03/22 23:53
1055Fqwer789456: 為什麼要會沒實證的東西?125.228.162.214 03/22 23:56
1056Fqwer789456: 難道還要會符水治療?125.228.162.214 03/22 23:57
1057Fqwer789456: 中醫就不會真正有實證的臨床醫學啊125.228.162.214 03/22 23:57
1060Fqwer789456: 差那麼多,病人心肌梗塞還針灸幹嘛125.228.162.214 03/22 23:59
1061Fqwer789456: 沒有比較強啊,什麼病非針灸會死的不125.228.162.214 03/22 23:59
1062Fqwer789456: 需要西醫的?125.228.162.214 03/22 23:59
1064Fqwer789456: 會一個沒實證的東西也叫強XD125.228.162.214 03/23 00:00
1067Fqwer789456: 我又沒有說中醫用符水125.228.162.214 03/23 00:00
1068Fqwer789456: 會沒實證的東西覺得自己強也是好笑125.228.162.214 03/23 00:01
1069Fqwer789456: 真容易自嗨125.228.162.214 03/23 00:01
1071Fqwer789456: 打個中央靜脈導管都更有技術太多了125.228.162.214 03/23 00:01
1073Fqwer789456: 還針灸咧125.228.162.214 03/23 00:02
1075Fqwer789456: 會針灸有什麼屁用125.228.162.214 03/23 00:02
1077Fqwer789456: 什麼病沒針灸會死 說一下125.228.162.214 03/23 00:02
1078Fqwer789456: 不會沒用的東西怎麼是爛125.228.162.214 03/23 00:03
1082Fqwer789456: 假針灸跟真針灸在實證研究常常沒有什125.228.162.214 03/23 00:04
1083Fqwer789456: 麼差異125.228.162.214 03/23 00:04
1084Fqwer789456: 心肌梗塞不會治療的中醫洗洗睡啦125.228.162.214 03/23 00:04
1086Fqwer789456: 醫學要的是有實證能真正處理的東西,125.228.162.214 03/23 00:05
1087Fqwer789456: 不是沒什麼實證在那邊自吹自擂125.228.162.214 03/23 00:05
1090Fqwer789456: 中醫不會處理心肌梗塞、敗血性休克、125.228.162.214 03/23 00:07
1091Fqwer789456: 糖尿病酮酸中毒、甲狀腺風暴、腎臟衰125.228.162.214 03/23 00:07
1092Fqwer789456: 竭等等基本內科題,就這樣中醫真的不125.228.162.214 03/23 00:07
1094Fqwer789456: 用跟西醫比125.228.162.214 03/23 00:07
1096Fqwer789456: 哈哈哈 比中醫強多了125.228.162.214 03/23 00:08
1099Fqwer789456: 病人意識改變中醫只會針人中 結果還125.228.162.214 03/23 00:09
1101Fqwer789456: 是直送西醫125.228.162.214 03/23 00:09
1103Fqwer789456: 我處理過很多次了哦 就說基本題了125.228.162.214 03/23 00:10
1106Fqwer789456: 蛤 我講的是真的啊125.228.162.214 03/23 00:10
1107Fqwer789456: 你又不認錯我幹嘛貼125.228.162.214 03/23 00:11
1108Fqwer789456: 你又不貼中醫高品質文獻125.228.162.214 03/23 00:11
1109Fqwer789456: 自己沒拿點東西還要別人貼125.228.162.214 03/23 00:11
1111Fqwer789456: 太搞笑了吧125.228.162.214 03/23 00:12
1113Fqwer789456: 這邊又不是證明我是醫師,是討論中西125.228.162.214 03/23 00:12
1114Fqwer789456: 醫誰證據比較強125.228.162.214 03/23 00:12
1117Fqwer789456: 一直離題一直被我拉回來 然後又扯出125.228.162.214 03/23 00:13
1118Fqwer789456: 去125.228.162.214 03/23 00:13
1119Fqwer789456: 結果拿不出中醫高品質文獻125.228.162.214 03/23 00:13
1121Fqwer789456: 這才是最好笑的125.228.162.214 03/23 00:14
1124Fqwer789456: 先拿出中醫高品質文獻哦125.228.162.214 03/23 00:15
1126Fqwer789456: 從一開始到現在主題不敢回應125.228.162.214 03/23 00:15
1128Fqwer789456: 整天扯別的轉移焦點125.228.162.214 03/23 00:15
1130Fqwer789456: 拿不出中醫高品質文獻現在扯寫essay125.228.162.214 03/23 00:16
1131Fqwer789456: 真的是來搞笑的125.228.162.214 03/23 00:16
1134Fqwer789456: 拿不出中醫高品質文獻的別鬧了125.228.162.214 03/23 00:17
1136Fqwer789456: 怎麼不拿呢125.228.162.214 03/23 00:17
1138Fqwer789456: 一定是沒有不敢承認125.228.162.214 03/23 00:18
1141Fqwer789456: 然後就扯東扯西打模糊仗125.228.162.214 03/23 00:18
1142Fqwer789456: 拿出中醫高品質文獻就能反駁了也不要125.228.162.214 03/23 00:19
1145Fqwer789456: 你知道我是否為醫師都不影響中醫比西125.228.162.214 03/23 00:19
1146Fqwer789456: 醫弱的事實125.228.162.214 03/23 00:19
1147Fqwer789456: 文獻證據等級就是事實125.228.162.214 03/23 00:20
1148Fqwer789456: 不用再跳針了 你先回答我先提出的問125.228.162.214 03/23 00:21
1149Fqwer789456: 題,我再來回應你的疑問125.228.162.214 03/23 00:21
1150Fqwer789456: 我先提出要中醫高品質文獻來反駁的證125.228.162.214 03/23 00:21
1151Fqwer789456: 據,先拿出來吧125.228.162.214 03/23 00:22
1157Fqwer789456: 今天主題是「中醫西醫誰證據比較強」125.228.162.214 03/23 00:24
1158Fqwer789456: ,我先提出要你拿出反駁的證據欸125.228.162.214 03/23 00:24
1161Fqwer789456: 這篇新聞跟下面推文講中西醫還是講我125.228.162.214 03/23 00:25
1162Fqwer789456: 的學術研究…?125.228.162.214 03/23 00:25
1163Fqwer789456: 唉….這根本來搞笑的125.228.162.214 03/23 00:25
1164Fqwer789456: 拿不出中醫高品質文獻,那結論就是西125.228.162.214 03/23 00:26
1165Fqwer789456: 醫比中醫強 結案125.228.162.214 03/23 00:26
1178Fqwer789456: 實證醫學運用在臨床本來就不是自己寫27.51.129.219 03/23 11:27
1179Fqwer789456: 文獻啊…..是去爬文搜尋過濾篩檢好的27.51.129.219 03/23 11:28
1180Fqwer789456: 文獻,根本外行還自以為耶….果然到27.51.129.219 03/23 11:28
1181Fqwer789456: 現在還拿不出中醫高品質文獻27.51.129.219 03/23 11:28
1182Fqwer789456: 實證就是實證啊 還在那邊扯誰做的根27.51.129.219 03/23 11:29
1183Fqwer789456: 本搞笑,原來醫師都不能用別人的實證27.51.129.219 03/23 11:29
1184Fqwer789456: 醫學結果來使用欸,難怪不是醫師27.51.129.219 03/23 11:29
1185Fqwer789456: 中醫廚以後不得已送西醫還要求西醫師27.51.129.219 03/23 11:30
1186Fqwer789456: 要用自己的文獻治療是嗎XDDD27.51.129.219 03/23 11:30
1187Fqwer789456: 中醫的實證就是弱 還在硬拗 難看27.51.129.219 03/23 11:31
1196Fqwer789456: 你的中醫高品質文獻呢 到現在都沒有27.51.129.219 03/23 11:35
1198Fqwer789456: 慘欸27.51.129.219 03/23 11:35
1200Fqwer789456: 所以你根本不知道實證醫學在幹嘛啊27.51.129.219 03/23 11:35
1201Fqwer789456: 中醫實證真是弱爆了27.51.129.219 03/23 11:36
1206Fqwer789456: 我又沒有發表學術不附出處還是做買賣27.51.129.219 03/23 11:40
1207Fqwer789456: ,講什麼小偷啊XDD27.51.129.219 03/23 11:40
1209Fqwer789456: 原來全世界西醫拿別人實證來治療都是27.51.129.219 03/23 11:40
1210Fqwer789456: 小偷27.51.129.219 03/23 11:41
1213Fqwer789456: 那是你自以為啊XDDD27.51.129.219 03/23 11:42
1215Fqwer789456: 所以你還是拿不出來中醫高品質文獻啊27.51.129.219 03/23 11:42
1217Fqwer789456: 沒錯啊27.51.129.219 03/23 11:42
1219Fqwer789456: 整天自介的中醫支持者 真搞笑27.51.129.219 03/23 11:43
1221Fqwer789456: 當不了醫師 不了解實證醫學 還這麼自27.51.129.219 03/23 11:43
1222Fqwer789456: 以為27.51.129.219 03/23 11:44
1224Fqwer789456: 中醫支持者的典型表現27.51.129.219 03/23 11:44
1226Fqwer789456: 拿不出中高品質文獻的中醫支持者 哈27.51.129.219 03/23 11:45
1228Fqwer789456: 整個來搞笑的27.51.129.219 03/23 11:45
1229Fqwer789456: 都是缺乏實證的替代醫療 跟中醫一樣27.51.129.219 03/23 11:45
1230Fqwer789456: 搞笑27.51.129.219 03/23 11:46
1232Fqwer789456: 到現在只能講出傷寒論XDDDD27.51.129.219 03/23 11:46
1239Fqwer789456: 所以現在有人在用希波克拉底的醫學在27.51.129.219 03/23 11:53
1240Fqwer789456: 治病?有人認為四體液說有實證可以用27.51.129.219 03/23 11:53
1241Fqwer789456: ?27.51.129.219 03/23 11:53
1242Fqwer789456: 難怪中醫部在醫院整天被西醫電,什麼27.51.129.219 03/23 11:54
1243Fqwer789456: 都講不出來27.51.129.219 03/23 11:54
1244Fqwer789456: 搞笑中醫支持者只能自我安慰了27.51.129.219 03/23 11:54
1256Fqwer789456: 我沒有藐視啊,希波克拉底在那個時代27.51.129.219 03/23 12:11
1257Fqwer789456: 有他的角色在,但實際上四體液說就說27.51.129.219 03/23 12:11
1258Fqwer789456: 被批判被拋棄過了,這有什麼好大驚小27.51.129.219 03/23 12:11
1259Fqwer789456: 怪,又不像中醫還拿傷寒論當寶XDD27.51.129.219 03/23 12:11
1260Fqwer789456: 中醫支持者真的是搞笑27.51.129.219 03/23 12:12
1261Fqwer789456: 沒什麼料只能亂扯以為自己正確 其實27.51.129.219 03/23 12:13
1262Fqwer789456: 錯得離譜 搞笑來的耶27.51.129.219 03/23 12:13
1266Fqwer789456: 不衝突啊,但他的東西就是有問題才會27.51.129.219 03/23 12:15
1268Fqwer789456: 被拋棄啊27.51.129.219 03/23 12:15
1270Fqwer789456: 真好笑 講得好像現在西醫都在讀希波27.51.129.219 03/23 12:16
1271Fqwer789456: 克拉底醫學全集一樣27.51.129.219 03/23 12:16
1273Fqwer789456: 哪像中醫 沒用的古書還抱著讀當寶27.51.129.219 03/23 12:16
1275Fqwer789456: 自以為真的慘27.51.129.219 03/23 12:17
1276Fqwer789456: 所以現在西醫在用四體液說?27.51.129.219 03/23 12:17
1278Fqwer789456: 所以現在西醫還在用四體液說嗎 回答27.51.129.219 03/23 12:18
1280Fqwer789456: 啊27.51.129.219 03/23 12:18
1282Fqwer789456: 整天自介 慘欸27.51.129.219 03/23 12:18
1284Fqwer789456: 所以現在西醫還在用四體液說?27.51.129.219 03/23 12:19
1286Fqwer789456: 別自介啦 先考上醫學系再來27.51.129.219 03/23 12:19
1288Fqwer789456: 中醫支持者真的很慘27.51.129.219 03/23 12:19
1290Fqwer789456: 所以還有西醫在讀希波克拉底醫學全集27.51.129.219 03/23 12:20
1292Fqwer789456: ?都擺在博物館了好嗎XDD27.51.129.219 03/23 12:20
1293Fqwer789456: 整天硬拗 慘27.51.129.219 03/23 12:21
1295Fqwer789456: 考不上醫學系,還幫全國中醫系學生背27.51.129.219 03/23 12:21
1296Fqwer789456: 書說有西醫臨床經驗,結果中醫住院醫27.51.129.219 03/23 12:21
1298Fqwer789456: 師看到病人心跳快只能直送急診XDDD27.51.129.219 03/23 12:22
1300Fqwer789456: 講不出個中醫高品質文獻,結果胸痛心27.51.129.219 03/23 12:22
1302Fqwer789456: 肌梗塞只能送西醫27.51.129.219 03/23 12:23
1304Fqwer789456: 怎麼不用中醫寶貝古書治療心肌梗塞27.51.129.219 03/23 12:23
1306Fqwer789456: 比你懂啊 中醫廚27.51.129.219 03/23 12:23
1307Fqwer789456: 中醫支持者應該很崩潰27.51.129.219 03/23 12:24
1310Fqwer789456: 你看 到現在一篇中醫高品質文獻也拿27.51.129.219 03/23 12:24
1311Fqwer789456: 不出來,寧願扯東扯西還講錯27.51.129.219 03/23 12:25
1313Fqwer789456: 中醫支持者崩潰秀27.51.129.219 03/23 12:25
1315Fqwer789456: 懂科學跟懂實證醫學跟中醫廚完全不同27.51.129.219 03/23 12:26
1317Fqwer789456: 等級~27.51.129.219 03/23 12:26
1319Fqwer789456: 到現在拿不出中醫高品質文獻欸 都多27.51.129.219 03/23 12:26
1321Fqwer789456: 久了27.51.129.219 03/23 12:27
1323Fqwer789456: 中醫等級低到爆 西醫高級太多了~27.51.129.219 03/23 12:27
1324Fqwer789456: 中醫實證弱到爆 但是一門好生意 嘻嘻27.51.129.219 03/23 12:28
1326Fqwer789456: 貼一篇中醫高品質文獻不就完事了嗎27.51.129.219 03/23 12:28
1328Fqwer789456: 死不貼 不然就是不敢承認沒有高品質27.51.129.219 03/23 12:28
1329Fqwer789456: 文獻27.51.129.219 03/23 12:29
1332Fqwer789456: 我有沒有學術能力又不是重點,比中醫27.51.129.219 03/23 12:29
1333Fqwer789456: 西醫實證強弱當然是看兩邊文獻 講過27.51.129.219 03/23 12:29
1334Fqwer789456: 多少次了27.51.129.219 03/23 12:30
1337Fqwer789456: 我也不是拿文獻說是我寫的還是我很厲27.51.129.219 03/23 12:30
1339Fqwer789456: 害,我是拿別人文獻來說西醫很強,拿27.51.129.219 03/23 12:31
1340Fqwer789456: 不出中醫文獻當然中醫就弱囉27.51.129.219 03/23 12:31
1343Fqwer789456: 是你被我電啊 就像晨會報告被問文獻27.51.129.219 03/23 12:31
1344Fqwer789456: 都拿不出來 可笑可笑27.51.129.219 03/23 12:32
1345Fqwer789456: 到現在就是不拿出中醫高品質文獻27.51.129.219 03/23 12:32
1348Fqwer789456: 這種人當醫師還得了,不看實證文獻27.51.129.219 03/23 12:33
1349Fqwer789456: 跑去挖古書治病 笑死人囉27.51.129.219 03/23 12:33
1351Fqwer789456: 還傷寒論咧哈哈哈哈哈27.51.129.219 03/23 12:33
1353Fqwer789456: 中醫只有被西醫電的份 醒醒27.51.129.219 03/23 12:34
1355Fqwer789456: 這種人身攻擊式的也叫電?只能叫小朋27.51.129.219 03/23 12:34
1356Fqwer789456: 友咆哮XDDD27.51.129.219 03/23 12:34
1357Fqwer789456: 大人世界的電是用實證在K的 好嗎27.51.129.219 03/23 12:35
1359Fqwer789456: 慘不忍睹 加油27.51.129.219 03/23 12:35
1365Fqwer789456: 根本就沒有比學術能力啊,這邊比中西27.51.129.219 03/23 12:42
1366Fqwer789456: 醫實證強弱欸27.51.129.219 03/23 12:42
1367Fqwer789456: 而且我是國立醫學 拿長庚嗆聲XDD27.51.129.219 03/23 12:43
1370Fqwer789456: 先拿中醫高品質文獻出來哦125.229.177.80 03/23 12:45
1372Fqwer789456: 都國立醫學系 怎麼考不上長庚XDD125.229.177.80 03/23 12:46
1373Fqwer789456: 是你縮吧125.229.177.80 03/23 12:46
1375Fqwer789456: 先問你中醫文獻的哦125.229.177.80 03/23 12:47
1378Fqwer789456: 縮得好徹底 中醫文獻拿不出來125.229.177.80 03/23 12:47
1379Fqwer789456: 中醫支持者都這個樣125.229.177.80 03/23 12:47
1381Fqwer789456: 好慘125.229.177.80 03/23 12:48
1383Fqwer789456: 中醫支持者崩潰了125.229.177.80 03/23 12:48
1386Fqwer789456: 拿不出中醫文獻 只能編造對方身分125.229.177.80 03/23 12:49
1387Fqwer789456: 中醫文獻也是公開的 怎麼不爬文?125.229.177.80 03/23 12:49
1389Fqwer789456: 公開跟我在這邊推文就要報上名號?125.229.177.80 03/23 12:50
1391Fqwer789456: 有什麼關係,你又不先報上名號125.229.177.80 03/23 12:50
1392Fqwer789456: 連中醫文獻都不敢貼 真的慘125.229.177.80 03/23 12:51
1395Fqwer789456: 真的加油 如果長庚中醫以後勸你不要125.229.177.80 03/23 12:52
1397Fqwer789456: 去醫院Pgy跟R,會被西醫學長姊電得很125.229.177.80 03/23 12:52
1398Fqwer789456: 慘XDD125.229.177.80 03/23 12:52
1401Fqwer789456: 沒有怕啊 本來就沒必要啊 ,而且主題125.229.177.80 03/23 12:53
1402Fqwer789456: 是中西醫實證強弱,你都拿不出中醫高125.229.177.80 03/23 12:53
1403Fqwer789456: 品質文獻125.229.177.80 03/23 12:53
1405Fqwer789456: 拿不出文獻的就是被電的一方125.229.177.80 03/23 12:53
1408Fqwer789456: 拿不出中醫高品質文獻的比較搞笑125.229.177.80 03/23 12:54
1410Fqwer789456: 缺乏實證的替代醫療還自尊心爆棚125.229.177.80 03/23 12:54
1411Fqwer789456: 你又在自介了125.229.177.80 03/23 12:55
1413Fqwer789456: 被電慘還不自知 慘125.229.177.80 03/23 12:55
1415Fqwer789456: 中醫高品質文獻拿出來啊,還是怕拿不125.229.177.80 03/23 12:56
1417Fqwer789456: 出來?125.229.177.80 03/23 12:56
1419Fqwer789456: 拿不出中醫高品質文獻就安靜啦,這邊125.229.177.80 03/23 12:56
1420Fqwer789456: 比中西醫實證強弱好嗎125.229.177.80 03/23 12:57
1422Fqwer789456: 想反駁中醫實證不弱居然扯別的問題X125.229.177.80 03/23 12:57
1423Fqwer789456: DDD125.229.177.80 03/23 12:57
1425Fqwer789456: 是你啊 想反駁不拿出中醫高品質文獻125.229.177.80 03/23 12:58
1426Fqwer789456: ,扯別的拖時間125.229.177.80 03/23 12:58
1429Fqwer789456: 還吹長庚中醫大學教材,結果一篇中醫125.229.177.80 03/23 12:59
1430Fqwer789456: 高品質文獻都拿不出來 哈哈哈哈125.229.177.80 03/23 12:59
1432Fqwer789456: 有人就是拿不出中醫高品質文獻125.229.177.80 03/23 12:59
1434Fqwer789456: 不要扯題了 拿不出來的就是反駁不了125.229.177.80 03/23 13:00
1436Fqwer789456: 你的回應真的很無聊 拿不出中醫高品125.229.177.80 03/23 13:00
1437Fqwer789456: 質文獻就激將法125.229.177.80 03/23 13:01
1440Fqwer789456: 不管你怎麼扯 就是改變不了你拿不出125.229.177.80 03/23 13:01
1441Fqwer789456: 中醫高品質文獻來反駁XDDDD125.229.177.80 03/23 13:01
1443Fqwer789456: 果然西醫比中醫強啊125.229.177.80 03/23 13:02
1444Fqwer789456: 反駁不了,那就是西醫比中醫強 醒醒125.229.177.80 03/23 13:02
1446Fqwer789456: 吧XDDD125.229.177.80 03/23 13:02
1448Fqwer789456: 講出事實看中醫支持者氣成這樣真有趣125.229.177.80 03/23 13:03
1449Fqwer789456: 心肌梗塞送西醫 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈125.229.177.80 03/23 13:03
1456Fqwer789456: 完全沒被你電啊,拿不出中醫高品質文125.228.162.214 03/23 13:51
1457Fqwer789456: 獻的才是被電的一方XD125.228.162.214 03/23 13:51
1458Fqwer789456: 整天幻想自以為 慘哦125.228.162.214 03/23 13:51
1473Fqwer789456: 只能小朋友咆哮,拿不出中醫高品質文27.51.129.219 03/24 14:27
1474Fqwer789456: 獻被電好慘XD27.51.129.219 03/24 14:27
1482Fqwer789456: 又來了 拿不出中醫高品質文獻的小朋27.51.129.219 03/25 14:22
1483Fqwer789456: 友咆哮 慘喔27.51.129.219 03/25 14:22
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