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6F→:你應該知道有唬爛板這這種東西吧09/06 11:40
7F噓:奇妙的是超板大概是ptt唯一反板旨還能不被視為鬧板的地方09/06 11:43
10F噓:你連唬爛跟超自然都分不清楚嗎09/06 14:52
11F→:拍謝喔 我忘記google不到的東西你都不太清楚:P09/06 14:53
1F推:我不知道這篇跟超自然哪裡相關了09/05 21:17
6F→:那就不是超自然了啊= =09/05 21:20
11F→:所以我之前才覺得自己很白痴 為了無聊的事在爭09/05 21:21
22F推:就因為當代文明太鳥了才會嚮往更先進古文明啊09/05 21:32
23F→:古代弱於現代的論點一點都不超自然 我沒興趣09/05 21:34
24F→:喜歡的人就去古文明板討論吧09/05 21:36
29F推:因為「我認為」他比較強09/05 21:41
31F→:不然幹嘛圍起來當神一樣拜？09/05 21:42
33F→:見解不同而已，又一定要同意你的論點？09/05 21:43
36F→:能樹立宗教價值就跟該物的本質有關，你知道摩尼丸嗎？09/05 21:43
38F→:我不想就細部做爭執，我又沒逼你承認我的觀點09/05 21:44
40F→:n你還好意思說我 自己連咕狗一下都不肯09/05 21:45
42F→:你前面描述的跟你自己不是很像嗎09/05 21:45
45F→:又來一個，根本連我說什麼都不聽09/05 21:45
46F→:古代比較弱本來就不是超自然09/05 21:46
51F推:那你來下定義吧 眼睛雪亮有自尊感很重的人09/05 21:48
53F→:我有說古代比較強嗎？09/05 21:48
55F→:古代曾有過比現代更高等的文明 我是這樣認知的09/05 21:48
57F→:你們有把握現在做跟鐵柱 一千多年不鏽？09/05 21:49
60F→:我只聽到一堆不理性的指控，原來這才叫討論啊09/05 21:49
63F→:???這句話是你自己說的09/05 21:50
64F→:托你的福現在看到更多了09/05 21:50
66F→:我就是認為亞特蘭提斯比現代強，你能說錯嗎？09/05 21:51
67F→:既然現代比較強，做根永久不鏽的應該很簡單吧09/05 21:51
70F→:我膚淺無知，認為現代科技也做不出這種東西來09/05 21:52
72F→:要花一千多年證實的東西怎麼做呢？09/05 21:52
76F→:說實在真的很好笑，古文明那麼多，任一比現在強都成立09/05 21:54
77F→:碰到一個模稜兩可的就緊咬不放，又不是只有這個東西才能09/05 21:54
78F→:證明09/05 21:54
79F→:實際上也沒辦法證明一定做得出來吧09/05 21:55
83F推:就算我承認在這點上我錯，但也不能說古代就一定弱於現代09/05 21:58
84F→:既然沒辦法說服就當我錯了，OK？浪費時間在小事上太無聊09/05 21:59
86F推:我都說我錯了還想怎樣？就算比較強也強不到哪去09/05 22:01
87F→:一點都沒有神奇的感覺09/05 22:01
91F→:對於找不到證據的事相信就夠了 不信的就不用信了09/05 22:11
92F→:反正「跡象」、「徵兆」都是實證論者看不上眼的09/05 22:11
93F→:連臉都沒有的人當然不知道被打臉的感覺了09/05 22:12
95F→:有興趣查一下人魚寶寶的傳說 至少說明了亞特蘭提斯的發展09/05 22:26
96F→:非傳說 在台灣報紙都有登的東西 對超自然有興趣應該都知09/05 22:27
99F→:真奇怪喔 報紙還能預測蘇聯解體09/05 22:28
100F→:指責別人前先想想自己有沒有把真相弄清楚09/05 22:28
103F推:90年的報紙 91年蘇聯解體 還需要知道更多嗎？09/05 22:31
106F推:後續？？？91年蘇聯解體不算後續嗎？？？09/05 22:33
107F→:一天一夜就沉沒的文明還能存活，代表足以建造海底都市09/05 22:34
110F→:1.蘇聯解體是突如其來的 2.奇妙傳說後隔年剛好解體 巧？09/05 22:36
111F→:要預測何必跟什麼人魚寶寶掛勾？09/05 22:36
112F→:難道年年都來個什麼不同的寶寶嗎？09/05 22:36
114F→:真的是 可不可以就承認有一點點 一點點就好09/05 22:37
115F→:生活周遭的確有些神奇的、不可解釋的事真的發生過？09/05 22:37
116F→:在事發前硬扯 記者也太神了09/05 22:38
120F推:毛我是不知道 但蔣死時是真的有異象 by父母口述09/05 22:41
121F→:除非你有上報紙 說明你出生跟蘇聯解體的關係09/05 22:41
122F→:都市傳說能預言成真 那就不那麼單純09/05 22:41
124F→:因為人魚寶寶有上報09/05 22:42
125F→:那確確實實是一個新聞事件09/05 22:43
127F→:我真的不懂 承認超自然會要命嗎？09/05 22:44
128F→:1.你在侮辱該記者的專業 2.蘇聯隨著人魚寶寶的預言而解體09/05 22:44
132F推:不如我幫你作假設好了09/05 22:46
134F→:x 你可以上網查 不要說我騙你09/05 22:46
135F→:一定是掌握蘇聯政治命脈的重要人物為了讓解體正統化09/05 22:47
136F→:故意放出假的消息，動搖人心，藉此達成目的09/05 22:47
137F→:這樣可以嗎？09/05 22:47
139F→:他鉅細靡遺的編了個故事，目的就是讓人相信蘇聯會解體09/05 22:47
141F→:解體不是大災難喔= =09/05 22:48
142F→:哈 我編的故事太爛了 請你幫忙編一個比教好的09/05 22:48
145F推:那只是我編的故事啊，我隨口胡謅的，目的只是反超自然09/05 22:51
147F→:所以你想解釋說有人看衰蘇聯，編個人魚故事，剛好矇到？09/05 22:52
153F推:唉 等哪天人魚真的到人類面前表明身份 那還叫超自然嗎09/05 22:55
156F推:http://ppt.cc/PsT! 當時報紙 參考一下09/05 23:00
157F→:怎麼不說科學家編故事避免製造人們恐慌？09/05 23:01
163F推:我今天才知道這個板應該是「踢爆無實證超自然現象板」09/05 23:18
164F→:今天要是真的人魚上電視說 大家好我是亞特蘭提斯人09/05 23:20
165F→:抱歉 仍然會招致一大堆懷疑09/05 23:20
167F→:到底要怎樣才行呢？09/05 23:21
168F→:謊言？拿曾經報導過的東西來推導可能存在的事實也叫謊言09/05 23:21
169F→:那什麼才叫「真相」？09/05 23:23
170F→:人魚走到你家敲門，你開門嚇一跳才叫真相嗎？09/05 23:23
174F→:花那麼多力氣去「證實」，我寧願直接了當的「相信」09/05 23:24
175F→:就算有可能是假的又如何？押錯了也不用賠錢09/05 23:25
178F→:是啊09/05 23:25
180F→:不對 我一再重申「相信」本身才是重點，但會挨罵09/05 23:26
183F→:因為你沒有在出生的時候預言會為蘇聯帶來災難啊09/05 23:26
186F→:沒有任何連結的東西如何相信？09/05 23:27
187F→:對呀 我之前就寫過外星人的故事 在場應該都看過09/05 23:28
188F→:「自然科學」的領域是「自然」吧09/05 23:29
190F→:要求超自然必須符合科學實證論無疑叫電影都必須寫實09/05 23:30
191F→:該年有無數的事發生，難道每一件都很神奇？09/05 23:30
192F→:那麼 v 你能否證明在90年普遍認為蘇聯會解體的言論？09/05 23:31
193F→:如果你能證明 那我也相對認同你的編故事論09/05 23:32
195F→:結果你也不過停留在無的放矢的階段而已啊09/05 23:33
197F→:這不是雙重標準嗎？要人去看書 要人舉證 輪到自己卻依然09/05 23:34
198F→:重複這套09/05 23:34
209F推:真失望 我還以為v尊重科學精神 原來也跟我一樣是小混混啊09/05 23:37
212F推:不是原出處的話有點不能辨認真偽欸09/05 23:41
213F→:畢竟是社會科學 不是超自然的東西09/05 23:41
215F→:在你提問前我已經回答了09/05 23:42
218F→:但是最奇怪的是在超自然板討論社會科學不是嗎？09/05 23:43
220F→:即便是中文網頁 「預測到」與「預測不到」也是參半09/05 23:44
224F→:「預測」跟「預言」不同吧，馬雅人出現了！09/05 23:44
226F→:「超古文明」可不是09/05 23:45
228F→:對呀= =真詭異09/05 23:45
231F→:哪裡？09/05 23:45
236F→:「未能預測蘇聯解體 美中情局其實也不神」隨便找也有這篇09/05 23:46
238F→:沒差 那就繼續下去吧09/05 23:47
241F→:以前到現在我得到資訊都是「蘇聯解體是跌破專家眼鏡的」09/05 23:48
242F推:http://ppt.cc/PI1O 這篇也是說預測不到09/05 23:50
244F→:簡單說超自然板如果要貼證據確鑿的東西大概會變成空板吧09/05 23:52
247F→:怎麼不會懷疑？如果不是超自然的東西當然會懷疑09/05 23:53
249F→:人魚寶寶是預言 預測的話我不知道90年有哪個權威機構做出09/05 23:54
250F→:除非有人證明他是假的 不然就照單全收09/05 23:54
251F→: 蘇聯解體的預測09/05 23:55
253F→:你的出生又不是超自然事件= =09/05 23:55
256F→:超自然點在哪裡？09/05 23:57
257F→:超自然現象本來就是浪漫的09/05 23:57
260F→:無法證實的東西跟不能說之間沒有關聯09/05 23:59
262F→:出生跟預測也毫無關聯09/05 23:59
264F→:既然你們只是講些白痴話去否定你們想否定的 這樣叫科學？09/06 00:00
265F→:o 你還沒弄清楚吧 90年的時候人魚寶寶說「如果不放我回去09/06 00:00
267F→:我會為蘇聯帶來災難」之類的話 而91年蘇聯解體09/06 00:00
268F→:真可笑 我說現在是晚上這樣也就超自然嗎？09/06 00:01
269F→:v 你要打臉前好歹也把自己武裝一下09/06 00:01
274F→:是啊 無法證實的東西 那我選擇不信 總可以了吧09/06 00:03
275F→:問題是你覺得這樣的事件可以被列為超自然現象嗎？09/06 00:03
276F→:他有任何討論的空間與想像的餘地嗎？09/06 00:03
278F→:要宣稱的話好歹也來搞個未來的預言吧09/06 00:04
280F→:因為很無聊09/06 00:04
281F→:當然算 這麼剛好 最大的人物死了剛好有異象09/06 00:04
283F→:兩者都很罕見 兜在一起機率低到靠北09/06 00:05
284F→:v就算這件事為真的 那也不過像是蝴蝶效應一樣09/06 00:06
285F→:不足為奇09/06 00:06
286F→:並沒有什麼特殊、驚奇的點09/06 00:06
287F→:簡單說沒有討論的價值09/06 00:06
291F→:問題是每天都有很多無名小卒去世09/06 00:07
292F→:那麼 其他小人物死去時 天象可否有異？09/06 00:07
293F→:簡單說 台灣信史上唯有當天的天象特別詭異吧09/06 00:08
295F→:那就等你成為大人物再說吧09/06 00:08
297F→:因為每天都有小人物去世= =卻只有在蔣去世時才有異象09/06 00:10
299F→:如果異象發生兩次，另一次沒有大人物去世 那就不奇怪09/06 00:10
302F→:o 的確有可議之處 但我選擇不這麼累的去追求實證09/06 00:11
305F→:因為只是茶餘飯後的有趣話題 為何不信？09/06 00:12
309F推:因為並不有趣 你多編點有趣的內容我再信09/06 00:14
310F→:為何要辯護呢？我又不求說每個人都跟我一樣09/06 00:15
312F→:只是覺得處處追求實證的人來這裡鬧板而已09/06 00:15
316F→:不只是天候 還有慈湖的烏龜09/06 00:16
317F→:而且是好天氣突然轉為狂風暴雨09/06 00:17
321F→:這沒辦法舉證 我說了 計較到這步田地只能看個人相信與否09/06 00:18
322F→:被趕鴨子上架的啊 我覺得很悶09/06 00:19
323F→:來這裡不就大家分享一些超自然現象 聊聊感想09/06 00:19
324F→:怎麼變得說不證明就被打成四不像一樣09/06 00:19
328F→:那蔣公死掉的異象你能證明不是因為他嗎？09/06 00:20
329F→:又如果很常見 怎麼會被說是「異象」？09/06 00:21
332F→:不能證明 只能相信09/06 00:22
335F→:那時候是四月 哪來的雷陣雨09/06 00:23
336F→:我有相信與否的自由吧09/06 00:24
337F→:v 你編的故事還可以 但醫學中心跟蘇聯有何瓜葛?09/06 00:24
342F推:接下來又是大氣科學了 有夠累人09/06 00:26
344F→:可否就把一堆囉哩叭唆的東西放一邊 享受一下浪漫感覺多好09/06 00:27
346F→:我先去睡了 有空再聊09/06 00:28
2F推:滅絕後重新演化也沒什麼不對的09/05 21:19
4F推:哪裡有錯我也看不出來 不如不看09/05 21:23
7F推:你這麼厲害，可否解釋一下寒武紀大爆發的成因？09/05 21:28
9F推:請人看什麼書，好歹要簡介一下吧09/05 21:39
10F→:不然叫人家看百科全書不是更快09/05 21:39
19F推:沒看過那麼沒誠意又沒禮貌的人09/05 22:09
21F→:照v所說 大概只有教授、博士才有資格談超自然了？09/05 22:14
23F推:沒辦法啊 不看書就會被罵09/05 22:21
24F→:畢竟考古學家什麼都懂，相較之下一般人都是白痴09/05 22:22
29F推:你連書在講什麼都不提就叫人去看 不覺得太傲慢了嗎？09/05 22:26
47F→:b 核融合超環保09/05 23:29
111F→:是的 除非他的語氣很唬爛09/05 23:56
115F→:（亂入）09/05 23:56
1F推:嗯嗯 有時候為了傳教東拉西扯的確不好09/05 21:04
2F→:對我來說理解很簡單「香巴拉是個真實存在的祕境」09/05 21:05
3F→:其他就當錦上添花的幻想式描述即可09/05 21:05
1F推:這才是本板應該有的討論09/05 20:21
13F推:同意09/06 11:39
2F→:一種理解方式吧 希望不要又有教徒出來轟09/05 20:22
4F→:或許某些人臉上有雀斑 但比起只看到雀斑的人仍美多了09/05 20:32
8F→:那就只好腦補了XD09/05 20:48
9F→:太嚴肅了吧 又不是論文09/05 20:49
2F推:你怎能肯定當代天文學的正確性？09/05 16:44
3F→:我不是說這篇就絕對正確 但可能性有很多09/05 16:45
5F推:只要它可信度不是0就能相信了吧 不用經過科學家認可吧09/05 17:11
8F推:就像宇宙或人類誕生的機率那樣嗎？09/05 17:20
13F推:有些人覺得攻擊未知便可以消弭恐懼吧09/05 18:03
1F推:要是這個板多點用腦的人就有救了09/05 12:53
2F推:你把古文明只限縮在我所說的內容嗎？那真是太抬舉了09/05 15:49
4F推:這又不是我個板 心胸開闊點吧09/05 15:52
9F推:我感到好奇的是 如果今天發現了一種超高科技+研究無所得09/05 17:23
10F→:的東西 官方的處理態度會是什麼？09/05 17:23
3F推:要是這個板多點用腦的人就有救了09/05 12:53
5F推:哈哈 你要不要比較一下兩句的陳述再了解自己的錯誤何在？09/05 14:36
7F推:這個板到底是用來「討論」超自然現象還是「質疑」？09/05 16:56
8F→:一些人得強迫症還是怎樣一天到晚想用已知去打未知09/05 16:57
9F→:質疑兩個字還用得太輕 用攻擊比較好09/05 17:25
12F推:用不同的輸入法都一樣可以輸入 我為什麼一定要用新注音09/05 17:37
13F推:古代也有核戰 他們做核彈的方法跟今日一定大不相同09/05 17:40
14F→:如果更有效率更有效能就值得深思探討09/05 17:41
16F推:http://www.wretch.cc/blog/chris9034277/2155760909/05 19:00
19F推:至少當代逐步帶領人類走向滅亡的科技實在太不完美09/05 19:31
19F推:給你拍拍手～09/05 08:28