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收起看板(1058)
1F→: 可參本板#1Q5OS0i5，即可知yogira罔顧程序之一小部分。11/09 03:46
5F→: 已完成05/14 11:38
8F→: 完成05/16 23:09
2F→: 不對，會議用板有同樣的標題的，我那篇是最新了，你的更11/22 23:02
3F→: 正推文也在我那篇，你的第一篇並沒有完全按更正修改。11/22 23:03
4F→: 你趕快去回去看會議用板啦11/22 23:04
6F→: 因組務內尚在研議並且已有本人不背書聲明，此四公告效力11/25 14:32
7F→: 處於未定狀態。11/25 14:32
8F→: 正式結果請等候新公告。11/25 14:32
32F→: 只要你繼續妄圖獨斷，想裝老大又不知道學習溝通、指揮、11/26 15:29
33F→: 分派、協調，我就會一直擋你坐大的路。11/26 15:30
34F→: 說到拖喔，是誰一被打槍就發脾氣? 擺爛沒進度? 明明前期11/26 15:30
35F→: 你編進度執行的流程很順，但實際上那只是沒有發生不合你11/26 15:31
36F→: 意的情況，本質上就是一受挫折經不起反對的自大份子。11/26 15:32
37F→: 要扣帽子盡量扣，我積起來沒說的幹礁足夠把你電到哭。11/26 15:32
38F→: 再來，既然有使用者發問，自然必須回答，而在內部議事規11/26 15:33
39F→: 則已經訂立，並且公告並未獲得全體三人同意下，公告效力11/26 15:33
40F→: 必然是懸而未決，若為此必經邏輯流程發怒，足見你毫無受11/26 15:34
41F→: 制衡以及遵守規定之意願，不過討糖失敗便哭鬧的黃口小兒11/26 15:35
42F→: 如此人格，豈有放任不管之理?11/26 15:36
2F→: 公告版本錯誤，非本人確認之版本，在此宣告本篇之arrakis11/22 16:08
3F→: 具名無效。11/22 16:08
4F→: 完全喔? 你確定? 要翻紀錄嗎? 這篇還是我有回一篇的喔?11/22 21:28
5F→: 一樓推文的問題還是我當時就提過的欸?11/22 21:28
6F→: 這個問題我建議你先回到會議用板來講會對你比較有利11/22 21:31
7F→: 所以我說你要先回會議用板啊...搞清楚自己掛的組務頭銜啊11/22 22:05
8F→: 還有你要這樣亂搞我只好在這邊公開給你洗臉了。11/22 22:07
11F推: 同意。11/22 15:25
4F→: 依照分層原則，CCBM可能也不是小組長能當板主吧?03/06 20:55
10F→: 你可能沒看懂站長在講什麼w 依目前解釋的分層原則，群組03/07 16:09
11F→: 長不宜擔任CCBM板主，進一步講，小組長也不一定有機會03/07 16:10
12F→: 早就跟你們說要謹慎一點不聽現在樹倒猢猻散wwww03/07 16:10
13F→: 拎北賭氣辭職就是爽啦03/07 16:11
22F→: 結果還是在跳針XD 沒辦法針對回只能跳自己的針XDD12/08 16:34
23F→: 而且你完全沒注意我的方案正正符合你的四沒有XDD12/08 16:35
24F→: 最後，站規裡面沒有明述小組長權力的排他性，換句話說，12/08 16:36
25F→: 從頭到尾都是你自己的意思啊。12/08 16:37
26F→: *也沒有明述群行不行幹嘛12/08 16:37
27F→: 你不是從幾天前就一直在寫嗎...12/08 20:03
28F→: 連我提的方案都被你說成侵權，然後我說沒有之後你又同意12/08 20:03
29F→: 你這人有沒有一丁半點的邏輯能力跟原則思想啊...?12/08 20:04
30F→: 整串下來先開始解釋站規的是你，別人也試著解釋站規你就12/08 20:05
31F→: 不同意，問你的解釋權力哪來的又不說www12/08 20:06
32F→: 總之，如果你能證明你是站規的附喪神我就同意你的解釋12/08 20:07
34F→: #1OGuBKye (C_WorkBoard)12/08 20:13
35F→: 群組規定制定任何有關開版的的標準...都是越權12/08 20:13
36F→: 這段是你寫的。12/08 20:14
38F→: 當然有問題－越不越權你說了算嗎?12/08 20:26
39F→: 你的四沒有分別是開板連署門檻、資格限制、連署規定、審12/08 20:28
40F→: 定。我的方案裏面沒有提到任何一者。12/08 20:28
43F→: 這串裡面有動手寫新的群組規定方案的只有我...= =12/08 20:33
44F推: *新的群組層級開板方案12/08 20:35
53F→: 等等，與其問使用者不如問站長層級?12/05 11:44
54F→: 而且這個解釋方向有個問題：若開板權屬於小組長，要如何12/05 11:46
55F→: 限制造成本次事件源頭的濫權?12/05 11:46
56F→: 又，若群組/小組權限如你所解釋，那麼本次事件顯然12/05 11:47
57F→: A:群組/小組自己都搞不清楚狀況12/05 11:47
58F→: B他們知道狀況但亂搞12/05 11:47
59F→: 最後請教一下，您是?12/05 11:48
62F→: 理解你的問題在哪了，小組長有決定權，這是一個命題，但12/05 14:53
63F→: 不代表其相等於決定的流程(另一個命題)12/05 14:54
64F→: 突破(?)一點講，由群組或小組發起討論應該也可以12/05 14:55
65F→: 那重點應該是，監督這一環由群組執行是沒有問題的，可是12/05 14:56
66F→: 決策流程則不必然由小組唯一全權制定。12/05 14:57
67F→: 這部分可能需要多位站務層級解釋一下"分層自治"的概念?12/05 14:58
72F→: 有權不等於連流程都可以自己來吧? 這是兩個命題。12/06 10:38
73F→: 就像法院可以審判，但法律來自立法院。12/06 10:38
74F→: 站規中關於組長開板權寫的是"有權決定"而不是"有權制定"12/06 10:40
75F→: 而且還有組規跟群組規的位階差異12/06 10:42
91F→: 不太理解為何你一定要把開板權排他到只有小組長可以?12/06 18:55
92F→: 規則沒有寫明的部分可以深究再考慮要不要擴大解釋，前面12/06 18:56
93F→: 也舉了法院跟立法院的例子，法院不能制定法律，妨礙法院12/06 18:56
94F→: 判決了嗎? 何況，這次事件就展示了小組長獨斷握有開板權12/06 18:57
95F→: 的問題。至於站長要不要制訂規則限定群組長權力?12/06 18:57
96F→: 我覺得要。PTT本身就已經很缺monitor's monitor，沒有在12/06 18:58
97F→: 明知有問題還放任問題存在的理由。12/06 18:58
98F→: 另外，開廢板為什麼會分屬於兩個層級? 這就是一種權力制12/06 18:59
99F→: 橫。12/06 19:00
100F→: 而且決定權怎麼可能會等於規則制定權啊...?12/06 19:02
101F→: 我是覺得你了解一下這次事件為什麼會鬧到這樣會比較完整12/06 19:10
102F→: 最後還是很想問一下? 您是? 為何可以定義越權是什麼?12/06 19:20
1F→: 各小項編號沒統一...吃過飯再看要不要改12/01 19:11
6F→: 我最近連線不穩(人在國外)當然是趁連得上的時候鞭策一下12/02 10:58
9F→: 但我才做一半啊XD 真要整理的話大概今天才會貼了12/03 10:48
4F→: 幹難排死了上色又很容易漏掉不弄了(丟12/01 19:04