[情報] 微軟承認其早在開始就知道WP7將被拋棄

看板WindowsPhone作者 (protect)時間13年前 (2012/07/04 01:31), 編輯推噓9(14545)
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Microsoft knew Windows Phone 7 would be abandoned When Microsoft announced Windows Phone 8 two weeks ago, it did so with a notable caveat: the new mobile operating system wouldn't be coming to current Windows Phone devices. According to a new interview, the company knew early in the development of Windows Phone 7 that current Windows Phone devices would have short lifespans. 微軟早於WP7發展時就知道當前的系統僅擁有很短的生命週期。 This was known as development for Windows Phone 8 was done in parallel with Windows Phone 7, since the company wanted to merge its mobile kernel with the Windows NT kernel but didn't have the necessary time. While Windows Phone 7 will be getting an overhauled start screen, it won't be compatible with applications developed for Windows Phone 8. Greg Sullivan, senior product manager for Windows Phone, told CNET UK that Microsoft knew from the beginning that Windows Phone 7 would eventually be abandoned and chose not to tell its customers. WP7與WP8是同時進行的,因為團隊早就想統一為NT核心,但時間不足。 微軟從一開始就知道WP7終將被廢棄,但選擇不告訴消費者。 Development for Windows Phone 8 even began before Windows Phone 7 was released in some ways, Sullivan said. 甚至WP8的開發早於WP7發表之前。 "The team that developed the 7.5 release actually was working in parallel with the core team that was already beginning [Windows Phone 8]," Sullivan told the technology site. "In fact some of that work was already initiated before Windows Phone 7 was even available – so this goes back a little bit." WP7.5開發團隊與WP8核心團隊同時進行,某些部分甚至再WP7完成前就已啟動 Sullivan told CNET UK that unifying Microsoft's Windows kernel with its Windows Phone kernel was "always the plan" and called the lack of compatibility between Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8 a "generational shift." He then went on to add that Microsoft doesn't expect a similar "generational shift" in the foreseeable future because of the design of the new architecture. Windows Phone 7 devices will continue to receive support and work with Microsoft's online services, such as SkyDrive and Xbox Live, even though they won't be as tightly integrated with Microsoft's upcoming Windows 8 operating system as Windows Phone 8 devices will be. 更換核心一直是微軟的計畫,因為不想在可預見的將來再做一次這樣核心更換 儘管無法與Win8高度整合,WP7仍將接受如skydrive與XBOX LIVE等服務 According to Sullivan, Microsoft chose to launch Windows Phone 7 knowing its limited timeframe because it had to compete against Android and iOS immediately. "It was important for us to establish this new approach in user experience and begin to build the developer ecosystem," Sullivan said. "Those are necessary but not sufficient steps to establish a new platform and we didn't want to wait until [we were able to launch Windows Phone 8] to begin that because we're maintaining those core characteristics of the platform." WP7的推出是為了立即投入與阿婆及估狗的競爭,不能等到WP8平台出來再做 新聞來源: http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-knew-windows-phone-7-was-dead-on-arrival 隨便附上大意,這裡有一篇更完整的 http://is.gd/IWlcSe -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.136.188.204

07/04 01:35, , 1F
該相信襄理還是這位Sullivan先生呢??
07/04 01:35, 1F

07/04 01:35, , 2F
噓MS..這擺明就是惡德商人的行徑……不過我想現有的巨大壓
07/04 01:35, 2F

07/04 01:35, , 3F
力,應該會迫使微軟做一些讓步,或相容。只要這個力道還在
07/04 01:35, 3F

07/04 01:37, , 4F
我只希望能正常開網頁,不升反降到IE6也無所謂。
07/04 01:37, 4F

07/04 01:37, , 5F
啪啪啪啪啪啪啪啪啪啪啪
07/04 01:37, 5F

07/04 01:37, , 6F
可是護航的力度也不小耶 甚至"2%消費者姿態還那麼高"
07/04 01:37, 6F

07/04 01:38, , 7F
這種言論都出現了呢
07/04 01:38, 7F

07/04 01:39, , 8F
..........................
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07/04 01:40, , 9F
ZzZzz....
07/04 01:40, 9F

07/04 01:42, , 10F
不過微軟的黑幕一篇一篇爆…他的信用已經快被評為垃圾級了
07/04 01:42, 10F

07/04 01:44, , 11F
"2%消費者姿態還那麼高" 應該是反串吧!?
07/04 01:44, 11F

07/04 01:45, , 12F
從結果論來看 這樣用wm6.5繼續戰就好了啊 反正市佔再慘
07/04 01:45, 12F

07/04 01:45, , 13F
也不過是如此而已...
07/04 01:45, 13F

07/04 01:45, , 14F
喔喔 M01的八先生又高潮了 因為這篇他又可以酸到底
07/04 01:45, 14F

07/04 01:46, , 15F
就算只有2位消費者也有權出聲吧!辛苦賺的錢被坑…
07/04 01:46, 15F

07/04 01:47, , 16F
這不噓不行了...
07/04 01:47, 16F

07/04 01:49, , 17F
這裡是wp板 一堆人護航也是很正常的情況...
07/04 01:49, 17F

07/04 01:51, , 18F
看看現在wp的市佔 就會覺得這篇蠻可靠的...
07/04 01:51, 18F

07/04 01:51, , 19F
不然ms真的有用心推芒果 市佔還2%可以選擇直接退出市場了
07/04 01:51, 19F

07/04 01:53, , 20F
微軟退出了阿 明天又換個WP8再回來
07/04 01:53, 20F

07/04 01:55, , 21F
我不會禁止這類文章,不過我會大致上看一下有沒有表達
07/04 01:55, 21F

07/04 01:55, , 22F
清楚,以及各位在討論時的口氣。
07/04 01:55, 22F

07/04 01:57, , 23F
版主 沒差啦 你還是回電影版關注蝙蝠俠吧
07/04 01:57, 23F

07/04 01:57, , 24F
事實上…如果WM6.5的瀏覽器體驗能有IE9/Safari這般的話…
07/04 01:57, 24F

07/04 01:57, , 25F
我還是滿能接受戳屁屁的生活的…
07/04 01:57, 25F

07/04 01:57, , 26F
反正這個板在6/20後 PH質應該已經是強酸等級
07/04 01:57, 26F

07/04 01:58, , 27F
這裡我本來就不希望成為一言堂阿
07/04 01:58, 27F

07/04 01:58, , 28F
鄉民視Google為神 視APPLE為潮 視MS為糞土 早已成慣例
07/04 01:58, 28F

07/04 01:58, , 29F
有任何可信來源的資訊,有傳達清楚,就大家討論
07/04 01:58, 29F

07/04 01:59, , 30F
現在過往看這些東西 只會讓自己愈看愈氣愈傷心
07/04 01:59, 30F

07/04 01:59, , 31F
還是靜待WP7.8的更多情報與到來那天 卡實在...
07/04 01:59, 31F

07/04 02:00, , 32F
也不能說視MS為糞土,至少在PC市場,他還是王者。
07/04 02:00, 32F

07/04 02:01, , 33F
只不過他的信用評比和對消費者關愛的態度…仍是不及格。
07/04 02:01, 33F

07/04 02:01, , 34F
其實他很有機會讓世界上各國的Bing和Google一較高下的。
07/04 02:01, 34F

07/04 02:02, , 35F
只是在於他肯不肯做而已…
07/04 02:02, 35F

07/04 02:03, , 36F
至於IOS,我從來就不是因為他潮而買iPT,不過憑良心講,
07/04 02:03, 36F

07/04 02:03, , 37F
周邊倒是不少~從美工和音樂等多媒體設計起家的…就個人使
07/04 02:03, 37F

07/04 02:04, , 38F
用經驗,音樂、混音、編曲、樂譜軟體,仍然是其他系統所
07/04 02:04, 38F

07/04 02:04, , 39F
追不上的。也許在x86平板有機會,但目前為止,這種近乎
07/04 02:04, 39F

07/04 02:04, , 40F
專業級的軟體,也比較小眾使用者的軟體,在A家和M家,真的
07/04 02:04, 40F

07/04 02:04, , 41F
看不太到就是了。
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07/04 02:05, , 42F
至少我看到iRig可以用讓我用低價的硬體就讓我的iOS裝置
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07/04 02:06, , 43F
變成電吉他擁有動不動就要幾萬元以上的效果器音色,我就覺
07/04 02:06, 43F

07/04 02:06, , 44F
得他實在夠屌!
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07/04 02:30, , 45F
或許應該說台灣不應該買,強大功能半殘,讓反感會更強烈
07/04 02:30, 45F

07/04 03:17, , 46F
真的是該噓了..
07/04 03:17, 46F

07/04 03:17, , 47F
我還是用滿滿的愛來愛WP/M$ 但是這種手法真的很爛..
07/04 03:17, 47F

07/04 03:43, , 48F
幹你娘!!!!
07/04 03:43, 48F

07/04 07:05, , 49F
連髒話都出來了= = 會出現本版第一個水桶嗎?
07/04 07:05, 49F

07/04 07:18, , 50F
其實WP7是過渡性的產品 這件是本身沒什麼錯
07/04 07:18, 50F

07/04 07:19, , 51F
錯就錯在微軟無法讓WP7升級WP8
07/04 07:19, 51F

07/04 07:21, , 52F
如果3個月後 你的手機可以升級WP8
07/04 07:21, 52F

07/04 07:22, , 53F
你還會在意WP7將被廢棄嗎?
07/04 07:22, 53F

07/04 08:05, , 54F
視MS如糞土第一隻智慧型手機就不會買WP7了...
07/04 08:05, 54F

07/04 08:06, , 55F
當初覺得WP7還蠻順的 還在nodo就買隻小莫進場...orz
07/04 08:06, 55F
※ 編輯: Riyuberg 來自: 220.136.183.252 (07/04 08:31)

07/04 11:09, , 56F
微軟:就算信用被評垃圾等級~但口袋還是深到不見底呀~
07/04 11:09, 56F

07/04 12:50, , 57F
不離不棄 被當北7???orz
07/04 12:50, 57F

07/04 13:00, , 58F
M$功力是世界頂級的毋庸置疑,只是裡面得高層
07/04 13:00, 58F

07/04 13:01, , 59F
作法有夠令人厭惡
07/04 13:01, 59F

07/04 13:35, , 60F
我可以拿蘋果砸破窗戶嗎??
07/04 13:35, 60F

07/04 14:29, , 61F
在WP7之前就開始的應該是指ARM版的NT kernel,Compiler
07/04 14:29, 61F

07/04 14:30, , 62F
但是這很正常,要說MS內部曾經有過SPARC版本的NT都不意外
07/04 14:30, 62F

07/04 15:37, , 63F
Apple 的 OS X 也是很早就有 x86 的
07/04 15:37, 63F

07/04 19:10, , 64F
真的被當北七了
07/04 19:10, 64F
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