[外電] Greg Miller takes a more business-li …

看板UTAH-JAZZ作者 (Gentleman monmo)時間13年前 (2011/02/28 02:02), 編輯推噓13(15238)
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今天看完外電就不寫額度了 主要是因為都是先檢討的細節 一些球員的看法 時間又很晚了 但這篇外電我看的很有感觸 所以貼上來 然後摘大綱吧 When the Jazz waived Darrell Griffith, there were tears on Larry H. Miller's pillow. When Thurl Bailey was traded, it was a regular weep fest. And when Mark Eaton retired, it was a two-hankie press conference. 老老闆是個會為了交易哭哭的性情中人 None of the above came close to the tears shed when Jeff Hornacek, Karl Malone or John Stockton retired. 對於特別的球員退休尤甚 But when the Jazz traded once-in-a-generation guard Deron Williams this week past, it was all business. Not quite business as usual — you don't trade a two-time All-Star every day — but clearly it was an unsentimental decision. 但是當爵士交易走他們當代控衛小胖時 那都只是生意 這是個不會常發生的交易 但顯然是個無情的決定 Six seasons of brilliant play, and D-Will didn't even get a box of apples as a parting gift. 精采發揮六年的小胖 離開時連箱蘋果當禮物都沒有 The Jazz are in a different place than they were two years ago. If one thing was clear Wednesday, it was that CEO Greg Miller is not your father's (or his) team owner. With the new Jazz, there will be fewer personal relationships and less emotion to cloud the issues. And there certainly won't be any signing players to long-term contracts because of friendships. 爵士跟2年前不同 禮拜三證明了一件事 小老闆不是他老爸那支球隊的擁有者 在新的爵士裡 更少的私人友誼 事情也會帶入更少的情緒判斷 不會有因為情誼而給球員長約的情形 In this era, it's all about the return. 這年頭 一切都攸關回報 While the late Larry H. Miller was emotional and sentimental, his son is stolid and businesslike. Even when Jerry Sloan resigned two weeks ago, it was the coach who did the choking up. Greg seemed moved, but not enough to wear dark glasses or get out a handkerchief. 老老闆情緒化又感性 小老闆鈍感又公事公辦 教皇辭的時候結果是教皇在哭 小老闆似乎有感動 但沒到眼框濕潤的程度 It's a hard business world nowadays, and nobody knows better than Miller. He got handed the reins by his ailing father, just as the economy was heading south. So he set about maximizing the team's value. His management team traded Eric Maynor, Matt Harpring and Ronnie Brewer, worked the sign-and-trade on Carlos Boozer and declined to match Portland's offer for Wesley Matthews. Then came the granddaddy of all Jazz trades: Williams to New Jersey. 這年頭沒有人比小老闆了生意難做 從病危老老闆接棒 經濟剛好轉壞 他著眼於團隊最大的價值 所以做了妹妞老哈小酒的交易 先簽後換阿布然後不跟馬嫂 最大筆的就是乾脆把胖子也換到紐澤西 Most or all of those moves were based significantly on finances. 大部分這些交易都是基於財政考量 Cost notwithstanding, Larry usually went with his heart. 儘管有成本考量 老老闆通常用"心"對待 With Greg, you wonder if he has one. 小老闆 你會懷疑他有沒有"心" Larry was fiery, gregarious and tender-hearted, Greg is distant and cool. Larry was a quote machine, Greg is careful and guarded. Larry was an auto parts guy in a golf shirt and sneakers. Greg is moussed hair and silk ties. 兩人的比較:老老闆熱情合群穿著休閒 小老闆有距離又冷酷穿著雅痞 It's not as though Larry never fired anyone. He OK'd sending Adrian Dantley to Detroit after it became clear Dantley and Frank Layden didn't mix. He also approved dozens of other player moves. But overall, Larry Miller had close personal relationships with his players. 不是說老老闆都不火人 當他知道丹特力跟蘭丹不合他送走丹特力 他也批准了其他很多球員的交易 但整體來說 老老闆跟他的球員有緊密的私人情誼 Those days are largely over. Greg doesn't have his own locker in the Jazz dressing room and you'll never see him shooting warm-ups with the players. 這些日子已過 小老闆在更衣室沒有自己的櫃子 你也不會見到他跟球員一起熱身投球 At the same time, he might actually be better equipped to deal with today's NBA than his father. 但他或許比他老爸更能適應現在的NBA Larry could rant, but he was also a locker room buddy. Greg goes in, but not to swap stories or share pizza. So when he called Williams with the trade details last Wednesday, there was no teary farewell. Miller said the conversation lasted 30 seconds. 老老闆會罵人 但他也是休息室的一員 小老闆走進來 卻不會交換故事或分享披薩 所以當他打給小胖交代交易細節時也沒有含淚 小老闆說他們只交談30秒 Over and out. 然後就掛了 Larry used to talk about certain untouchable players. Greg says "anyone could be traded if we felt it would make the organization better" and he backed it up on Wednesday. 老老闆會說哪些球員是不能動的 小老闆是說如果組織會變好 沒有人是不可動 他禮拜三確實就是這麼做 Larry was in it for business, but mostly for philanthropy. He was emotionally invested, which always made trades hard. Greg points out the Jazz are the fifth-smallest market with the sixth-highest payroll. 老老闆會為了生意參與其中 但多半是為了慈善 是情感上的投資 所以會造成交易上的困難 小老闆則指出 爵士是第五小的市場卻有第六高的薪資 "I don't see any player as being sacred," he said. 他說:我不認為哪個球員是神聖不可侵犯的 Williams didn't show much emotion when he was traded, but then again, neither did Greg. There was no reminiscing over the good times, just talk just about moving forward. Is that wrong? Probably not. This is an era of player self-interest and super-team buildup. 小胖沒有太多情緒(大概是說沒哭吧 不然外電都有提到他Sad & Shock) 但小老闆也沒有 沒有回憶過往美好 只說向前行 這有錯嗎!? 或許沒有 這是一個球員追逐私利 以及打造超級團隊的年代 A more distant approach could be just the management style the Jazz need. 更遙遠的距離 或許是現在爵士需要的管理風格 -- 很難說誰對誰錯 但我想當初我們大多數人 都是喜歡爵士獨特的人情味 義理 堅持才會長年待在這裡吧 但我們都必須接受 不管你喜不喜歡 新的爵士從3.0開始 勢必會成為另一種風貌 由老闆帶著理性近乎無情精算下來經營 也許我們能寄望的 只有球隊能繼續保持團隊至上 以及以前那些拼搏 哈索 Underdog的堅持吧 這篇真的看了感觸良多 尤其是老老闆帶著有點啤酒肚的身軀上場跟著練球 有自己休息室的櫃子甚至球衣 還會衝進去幹喬球員打這什麼鬼東西騙我的錢 的那些照片 那些舊聞...除了灑錢不夠本 這種熱情甚至連Cuban都比不上 能走過老老闆 教皇 菲爾 馬史老何時代的我們 是幸福的 只是典範已遠 而我們仍在現實世界 雖然有點過於悲觀 但這篇外電作家最後還提問了3個問題 下面也有幾個美國網友回覆 或許我們也可以自己想想:你的答案是什麼!? 1. Do you think the Jazz needed a more businesslike management approach? (Y/N)? 你認為爵士需要比較務實 公事公辦的管理模式嗎!? 2. Are the Jazz in good hands? (Y/N)? 爵士現在情況良好嗎!? 3. Could you see the Jazz moving out of Utah in the next 10 years? (Y/N) 你認為下個十年中 爵士會遷出猶他嗎!? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 115.43.51.67

02/28 02:04, , 1F
另外外電最近常有種說法 失去Boozer是小老闆考慮交易小胖的
02/28 02:04, 1F

02/28 02:04, , 2F
遠因 但...啊你們兩個當初不留他的不是嗎!?
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※ 編輯: monmo 來自: 115.43.51.67 (02/28 02:11)

02/28 02:13, , 3F
想要真的當個商人、不留情面。就要有本事把戰績再拉高走更遠
02/28 02:13, 3F

02/28 02:17, , 4F
最後一個問題真是一針見血...
02/28 02:17, 4F

02/28 03:35, , 5F
公牛老闆給MJ三千多萬和湖人老闆給Kobe三千萬也很有人情
02/28 03:35, 5F

02/28 03:36, , 6F
味 要不要考慮一下?
02/28 03:36, 6F

02/28 06:14, , 7F
我想重點是要以球隊經營為目標還是球隊爭冠為目標?如果是
02/28 06:14, 7F

02/28 06:15, , 8F
想收支平衡甚至獲利,以猶他的市場等於宣告放棄總冠軍
02/28 06:15, 8F

02/28 06:17, , 9F
永遠當陪玩的的球隊,如果要爭冠,接下來就導到問題3
02/28 06:17, 9F

02/28 07:10, , 10F
monmo你鞋長這樣 http://goo.gl/AtJDl 跟你給我的連結不
02/28 07:10, 10F

02/28 07:10, , 11F
同 尺碼對了
02/28 07:10, 11F

02/28 11:25, , 12F
!!! 我問問我朋友 因為不是這一雙呀>_<
02/28 11:25, 12F

02/28 11:31, , 13F
我問問他有沒有換鞋之類的方式再趕快跟你說 太囧了...Orz
02/28 11:31, 13F

02/28 11:38, , 14F
拼小孩他們跟你約哪天在NY呀...真著急來不及處理...Orz
02/28 11:38, 14F

02/28 11:49, , 15F
其實說不定鹽湖城本地或海外球迷就是因為這份原有的團結
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02/28 11:50, , 16F
才能養城的這麼死忠這麼熱情 這種經營法難道不會流失這些
02/28 11:50, 16F

02/28 11:50, , 17F
資源嗎 有點好奇
02/28 11:50, 17F

02/28 11:54, , 18F
這就要看老闆對於核心價值的認定了,另外也可以
02/28 11:54, 18F

02/28 11:54, , 19F
吃定球迷會為了過往的認同而繼續支持球隊
02/28 11:54, 19F

02/28 11:55, , 20F
ex:某中職球隊,就看老闆怎麼想了
02/28 11:55, 20F

02/28 12:02, , 21F
尼克擺爛那麼久都不怕了(煙
02/28 12:02, 21F

02/28 12:11, , 22F
SLT新的一篇有寫說KOC希望聽到胖跟Nash一樣說出:我想留
02/28 12:11, 22F

02/28 12:12, , 23F
在這裡,讓我們找一些球員來吧"
02/28 12:12, 23F

02/28 12:13, , 24F
也順便臆測Sloan的出走也跟胖的放話有關
02/28 12:13, 24F

02/28 12:15, , 25F
看到ak被留下來 就知道人情味還是在的 (逃)
02/28 12:15, 25F

02/28 12:18, , 26F
他們3/7離開
02/28 12:18, 26F

02/28 12:32, , 27F
我是覺得Deron不說話也是人之常情...他說要留 球隊能給他
02/28 12:32, 27F

02/28 12:32, , 28F
相對應的保證嗎!? 只是覺得最後2方都導向沒留Boo這點很瞎
02/28 12:32, 28F

02/28 12:33, , 29F
Nash的狀況跟Deron天差地遠呀...
02/28 12:33, 29F

02/28 12:34, , 30F
小老闆出這招外電也有人提到可能有後遺症 比如說難道2年後
02/28 12:34, 30F

02/28 12:35, , 31F
Favors又不提早說確定要留 難道又要換走他!? 逼迫輸誠很微妙
02/28 12:35, 31F

02/28 12:36, , 32F
可能會減少當下的損失 但是之後是否有利球隊運作 有待觀察
02/28 12:36, 32F

02/28 12:36, , 33F
看這幾天外電我的感覺是 如果明年沒CBA因素 也許不會出這招
02/28 12:36, 33F

02/28 12:48, , 34F
XXX
02/28 12:48, 34F

02/28 12:53, , 35F
Landry來爵士應該很好用
02/28 12:53, 35F

02/28 13:32, , 36F
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02/28 13:49, , 37F
樓上自肥
02/28 13:49, 37F

02/28 14:32, , 38F
樓樓上好笑XD
02/28 14:32, 38F

02/28 16:41, , 39F
Favors至少是QO 球隊還有跟進的機會 小胖要是跳脫就沒了
02/28 16:41, 39F

02/28 16:42, , 40F
小胖雖然否認說要去尼克的話 但被追問會不會留下一樣沒表態
02/28 16:42, 40F

02/28 16:43, , 41F
季初走了Boozer kk 他不爽 來了狼王球隊打的沒比較好也不爽
02/28 16:43, 41F

02/28 16:44, , 42F
爵士不是LA NY 小胖也不是LBJ可以讓球隊大幅升值 即便今年
02/28 16:44, 42F

02/28 16:45, , 43F
沒交易 明年能做出"大交易" 讓小胖舒服嗎 與其被玩不如先賣
02/28 16:45, 43F

02/28 17:40, , 44F
我的意思就是 那QO後呢? 還是不表態一定續簽選邊站就弄掉?
02/28 17:40, 44F

02/28 17:41, , 45F
大城市有籌碼都不敢做的事情 我們做了 那以後是不是反過來
02/28 17:41, 45F

02/28 17:41, , 46F
很可能重要球員都要提早被迫續約? 球員端的立場是沒被照顧
02/28 17:41, 46F

02/28 17:42, , 47F
的 我只希望今年只是個特例...因為CBA改版即將到來的特例
02/28 17:42, 47F

02/28 17:43, , 48F
不然以後誰想來爵士!? 到時候還給人名正言順加速離開辦法呢
02/28 17:43, 48F

02/28 22:44, , 49F
最近不表態的 幾乎都沒留在原隊 NBA生態已經變了
02/28 22:44, 49F

02/28 22:45, , 50F
Boozer:我表態了也沒人理我呀...........T___T
02/28 22:45, 50F

02/28 22:52, , 51F
下下篇我有回到相關的話題 顆顆
02/28 22:52, 51F

03/01 02:04, , 52F
想要用低成本打出好戰績最需要的就是SLONE阿傻
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03/01 02:45, , 53F
讓我又開始想念老老闆了...
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03/01 14:18, , 54F
X
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09/11 08:21, , 55F
下下篇我有回到相關的話 https://daxiv.com
09/11 08:21, 55F
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