Re: [灌水] 小道消息 about Love's trade
還是沒有新消息 只好繼續灌水
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昨天晚上最大的新聞是Stephen A. Smith爆料
Love or his agent跟其他球隊說別浪費心力
就算他被迫多在灰狼多待一年
一年後他還是會選擇跟騎士簽約
這個時機點出這種新聞實在很詭異
騎士代言人Amico馬上附和
Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO
Multiple sources under impression TWolves star Kevin Love has requested
trade to Cavs
Steohen A.的鬥嘴好夥伴Skip也說
Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless
Sounds like TWolves will be forced to trade Love to Cavs for less. He insists
won't sign with any other team, so can't pay too much to rent.
所以 這個消息是從ESPN跟Amico流出
Amico就算了 雖然少了其他大咖Woj等人背書
Steohen A.還算全國有頭有臉的人物 我不會完全否定此可能性
但.....對Love是好事嗎? 如果因此影響到騎士報價
Flip可以直接拒絕送出 多留愛神一年 隔年直接空出16M薪資空間
愛多等一年到他夢想的winning team 錢還少拿 真的是就甘心阿~
至於灰狼這邊的回應
Wolfson
Gotten a crap-ton of Love only re-signing w/ Cavs tweets. Where's that coming
from? Heard weeks ago he was open to staying w/ GSW, & others.
好像幾週前才聽說愛也願意跟勇士續約耶
在之前的名單好像包含Boston 更不用說還有家鄉LA跟大市場的NY
Darren Wolfson (Wolves writer) said earlier this week that Love's agent was
calling teams to try to get them to make offers for Love. I think it is
important to Love and his agent that he gets traded so that he can sign a
larger contract.
這段說法合理多了 打電話給有興趣的球隊 拜託趕快出手讓我離開北大荒吧~~
最後附上灰狼迷的神回應
Look at the tweet again. He says multiple sources "under impression".
Translation: I'm talking out of my ass.
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第二則消息是Love宣布退出美國隊for下個月世錦賽
Jon Krawczynski @APkrawczynski
Kevin Love is pulling out of Team USA because of uncertainty surrounding his
status with Wolves.
交易不定心情也不定 怕受傷影響行情乾脆不打了 這新聞其實不大重要
看看灰狼迷怎麼說
That's good. We don't have to worry about him getting injured now unless he
starts doing some knuckle push ups.
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老桑昨天接受訪問的ㄧ些重點
1. There is no deal in place.
沒成交~~沒成交~~沒成交~~
2. He talks to teams everyday.
每天都有在談 (team"s" 複數)
3. He has had no conversations about trading Kevin Martin or Gorgui Dieng
沒有談到KM跟Dieng
4. He thinks Dieng can play next to Pekovic, though spacing is problematic
認為Peko跟Dieng可以一起在場上
綜合其他消息 說明KM沒有被當作爛約要清
但只要Lavine打出來 隨時可能走人
KM合約的C/P值是很夠的 要交易並不難 也不需要像JJB一樣需要貼東西
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Terry Pluto的新文章 滿值得閱讀的
幾個重點
1. Minnesota and Cleveland haven’t had serious discussions about a Love
trade for a week, writes Pluto. We heard recently that the trade market
for Love was quiet in general, although speculation has continued to
proliferate.
灰狼跟騎士雙方已經冷戰一週 沒有親熱了...>"<
2. Pluto also hears that the expectation for any would-be Love trade to
Cleveland would be that the forward would still decline his player option
next season, giving him the ability to re-sign to a longer, more lucrative
deal.
Love到哪都可以拒絕執行明年選擇權 為了更大的合約
ps: 所以 Love會願意明年裸簽騎士拿少少嗎?
3. Minnesota is considering the unlikely possibility of keeping Love through
the season and then working out a sign-and-trade with another team next
summer, per The Plain Dealer scribe.
多留在灰狼一年 等來年先簽後換? 機會不高但不是不可能
ps: 重點是要先簽後換不裸簽 錢才拿得多阿
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灰狼迷很認真的列出Love裸簽放棄鳥權跟保留的薪資差異
A max deal signed next season will probably start around $18 million with
%4.5 raises available for 4 years. A deal signed in 2016 should start around
$22.5 million, perhaps $23m.
Losing his bird rights would cost him serious cash on the backend;
Bird deal or the non bird deal.
2015 --> 16.750m or 18.000m
2016 --> 23.000m or 18.810m
2017 --> 24.725m or 19.656m
2018 --> 26.578m or 20.541m
2019 --> 28.573m or new deal at 30 years old?
2020 --> 30.716m or ???
$150.342 guaranteed million staying in Minnesota and signing a new deal,
or extending and signing with the new team he's traded to... $77 million
going into free agency on his own.
$73 million guaranteed cash potentially lost by becoming a non bird FA.
That ain't gonna happen.
所以.....Love真的願意放棄如此大把鈔票嘛??
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Sam Amico (NBA columnist for FOXSports.com and FOXSportsOhio.com)
前幾天在討論區跟球迷聊天的公開紀錄 滿有娛樂性的XD
Comment From Cliff
What are the Cavs view on Dion right now? Do they think they can convince
him to be a 6th man, do they think they can start him, or will they just
trade him?
Sam Amico:
They absolutely love him and feel he can be their Dwyane Wade. Or Wade-like
anyway. He is the starting shooting guard. Wiggins will have to beat him out.
球迷: DW會被交易? 第六人? 還是先發?
Amico: 球團非常愛他 他會是騎士的Dwyane Wade
Wiggins都必須跟他競爭先發SG的位置
Comment From Matt E
Do you think there's a chance they can get Love and not have to give up
Wiggins?
Sam Amico:
I do believe that. I really do. But I'm believing it a lot less and less
these days.
球迷: 你認為騎士可以不用丟AW就拿到Love嗎?
Amico: 我堅信!!! 但最近我越來越沒有信心了.....ORZ
yyjack: Amico在其他地方說到Cavs has ever never never never offered AW for Love
讓我們跟他一起唱 I Believe~~oh~~~
Sam Amico:
Flip Saunders is a great guy. And a guy who really knows how to work the
media. A lot of these reports you're hearing are textbook Flip. Feel free
to figure out which are which for yourselves.
老桑是個狠腳色 很會利用媒體
Comment From joe
If Flip could have wiggins bennett and a 1st or have klay thompson david lee
and barnes which do you believe he would choose?
Sam Amico:
A source told me Flip Saunders "has had a (I'm trying to keep it clean here)
for Wiggins" since before the draft. He'll take a trade with Wiggins over all
others.
球迷: AW+AB+1st pick vs. Klay + Lee + Barnes 你覺得灰狼會選哪一包?
Amico: 神秘內線消息跟我說 老桑一直都深愛著AW 我相信他會選擇A勝過一切
yyjack: 這讓我想到Okland當地媒體Tim Kawakami也說過老桑愛Klay勝過AW
要AW只是逼勇士丟出Klay的手段 你們這樣搞得我好亂阿~~~(抱頭
Comment From Brad
What are the odds that the origination of some of the Love trade rumors are
being floated out there by Minnesota.
Sam Amico:
100 percent
球迷: 你覺得這麼多關於Love的交易傳言有多少是從Minnesota流出的
Amico: 不用懷疑 百分之百!!!!!
yyjack: ㄎㄎ
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最後 又來到美國鄉民嗆聲時間
仔細看看會發現 兩邊的在吵得幾乎一樣 很有同步感XDD
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先來一篇宣稱DW是Wade 2.0騎士迷的最新預言
I have seen scenarios where Love gets picked up in free agency by a team
like Philly who has large cap space( 35mill) and they get his bird right,
then cavs trade Haywoods expering (10.5 million and other small assets and
a couple firsts to philly) Which philly would instantly do as there gm is
trying to round up as many picks and assets as he can. But I do not think
Love makes it to Free agency anyways (unless he is traded to a team he doesn't
want/ the team he goes too stinks it up)
騎士明年無法裸簽Love怎麼辦....?? 別擔心
可以請76人簽約 然後再拿Haywoods的10.5M到期大約交易過來
這....實在是太幽默了 邊看邊笑有益身心健康
差不多跟大V射程可比Okur AB減肥後靈活到可以守SG一樣幽默
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You should read the numerous reports that cavs are going to give up first
round picks bennett and wiggins at least for Love. This is probably true
because the sources are many and legit unlike cavs beat writers who are given
false info like wiggins is not going to be traded, dieng is in play and other
bs. Not their fault but cavs are in no position to expose their intentions
while wolves want to publicize the deal to put pressure on lebron to take over
the front office like he will shortly
Not to mention we got own posters here who have heard things and the trade
will be made with wiggins bennett first round picks. So yeah idk if thats
true or not but thats there.
跟我們的論調一樣 這麼多有公信力的消息來源都說話了
為什麼要選擇性去相信Amico呢?
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Go away cavs scrub, it doesnt matter whay the cavs fo thinks. Cclevelands
balls are in the hands of lebron. Good job getting onto your knees for a 2
year contract with a 1 year opt out. Not talking to you, your points are just
wishful thinking. Sorry all the sources point to wiggins being traded. Just
lie in the hopes of random fallacious sources and your cavs writers.
觀點同上
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I know I don't have the energy to listen to any more Cleveland fans make the
same bullcrap arguments any more today.
You guys need to find a new place to hang out. Your schtick is way past old,
irritating and quickly becoming infuriating.
沒啥觀點 純罵人XD
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I can't wait for, I don't know, Clippers fans to show up and tell us that we
need to trade Love for JJ Redick & Byron Mullens, otherwise he'll take the
MLE to play for them next season
酸
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Never going back there (Cavs fans forums)again until Wiggins becomes a wolf
so I can read their meltdowns.
"meltdowns" = 崩潰 台灣美國灰狼迷一同坐看期待某迷們崩潰 齁齁齁
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