Re: [請益] 年金改革的基本訴求討論
※ 引述《davidstrong (David Strong)》之銘言:
: 0. 你要政黨賠償三大基金少賺的?其實基金已經是有賺的,只是沒有過去假設的那樣高,你這樣會得罪國民黨。
: 1. 你要保留已退者的福利,新人要被改革,這就是世代鬥爭。你讓新人退出目前基金,帶走已繳的部分另創新基金,那老人下個月就馬上領不到了。
: 2. 你才研究兩個月,文章這種程度很正常,這是方向不對。
: 3. 年金改革本來就是要改革已退的既得利益者,才能讓這些已退者長久領到終身,你不改革,或是叫年輕人晚退,都是至少20年後才有效果,其實十年內就會破產,你又害到自己了。
前輩們在國小教育界有分早早就退的,還有死撐著等改革過去再退(怕被改革到的)
跟同輩較年輕同事們討論到底哪個方案取得較大利益
沒甚麼好結論
想請問如果將另設新基金,將該年以後的投保者納入、獨立運作
這樣就很公平合理
原基金的賺錢虧損自己運作
國家會設擦屁股上限(EX:該年稅收的0.05%)
賺錢最好、國家不會貪此基金的錢
但倒了國家也會設有停損點
我覺得目前的政治狀態,執政者敢這樣做
才疏學淺,一點疑惑
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