Re: [情報] 製作人Jeff Kaplan回覆戰利品議題

看板OverWatch作者Raogo (Raogo)時間9年前 (2016/08/04 17:45)推噓30(30推 0噓 60→)

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隨便翻幾個較多人贊同的回文，如果對翻譯覺得不夠完善，請去看原文就好吧 "Giving us" Ana and Lucioball isn't really you being generous. You announced before the game ever came out that all future content, like characters and game modes and maps, would be free. You're not being gracious by doing this, you're fulfilling your promise and doing what was expected. 「給我們」安娜還有路西歐足球不代表你們慷慨，早在你們發佈遊戲之前你們就承諾了，未來的這些內容包括新的地圖、角色、模式都是免費的。你們做這些更新並不叫做慷慨，只是在履行你們曾經的承諾還有那些原本就有的期望， We all EXPECTED new free characters and maps overtime when we bought the game. 在我們買這個遊戲的時，本來就有把更新的英雄、地圖算進去。 And yes, I honestly think we should all be "entitled" to the new skins if we want them because we were also promised new skins by the end of summer. We were never told that the new skins would be exclusive to those who were lucky and those who can afford to gamble. 是的，我實實在在的認為我們全都「有資格」去拿到新造型，如果我們想要的話，因為我們也曾經被承諾過這個夏季結束前我們會有新造型。我們也從來沒有被告知過，我們要拿到新造型只能通過具有強烈賭博性的轉蛋。 ------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff so coins are basically worthless besides base game stuff now? Jeff...所以鬥陣幣現在變成沒屁用的東西了對吧? ------------------------------------------------------------------ I really, really dislike the "wait and see" idea. 我真的真的很不喜歡這樣觀望的做法 I do not need to try something multiple times to tell if I do not like it, I do not need a few weeks to fully understand if I don't like something or not. 我不需要嘗試一件事情好幾次，才能告訴別人我不喜歡這樣我不需要花幾周的過程去充分理解一個東西我是否喜歡 I'm not a toddler. I can tell if I like something or not. 我不是一個三歲小孩，我可以直接表達我覺得一個東西好不好。 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBsJ9VSQvbE&feature=youtu.be&t=105

結論: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nobody likes artificial scarcity, gambling, time-gating and RNG. Especially when they're combined together. Sugarcoat it all you want Jeff, but you knew what you were doing with this update. 沒人會喜歡人為的稀有物品，賭博性的、時限性的、還有隨機性的，尤其是他們全部結合在一起時，Jeff，你粉飾了你們想要甚麼，但是你知道你們這次更新做了甚麼。 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "rare and special" unless you have a lot of money you want to give us. Right. 「稀有而且特別」除非你想要給我們很多錢懂了! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 這邊我就挑我想翻的翻了 A lot of us gave you money by buying loot boxes and saving our gold. Its always frustrating when you get dupes and get gold as a dupe reward, but at least we had the thought of using the gold for future released skins. Invalidating the currency system and forcing people to buy crates or play (a lot going by the drop rates and dupes) is a crappy thing to do. A lot of your player base and myself included are adults with full time jobs. We dont have time to invest dozens and dozens of hours to unlock the few skins we want out of the pool of 90+ options. We bought crates because we wanted the cosmetics without having to dump crazy hours into the game, and that currency we accumulated is just completely useless now. Do you not see how this could make a lot of people angry??? 很多這個遊戲的玩家包括我，都是有全職工作的成年人，我們沒有這麼多時間在時限瘋狂的玩去解鎖，我們會買箱子就是因為我們沒辦法花一堆時間去玩遊戲，甚至之前我們累積的鬥陣幣你現在竟然說只是垃圾? Lets not kid anyone here, letting people use saved up currency to buy exactly what they want hurts your bottom line and that is the only reason why you invalidated in-game money. 讓人們去使用儲存的鬥陣幣去買真正想要的東西，這個行為觸犯了你們的底線，這就是你們將鬥陣幣變成垃圾的原因。 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 暴雪原文「Posted by Jeff Kaplan And if the event is received well (my impression so far is that it is being received well once you remove the debate over the items not being available for credits), we will run it again next year.」如果這個事件的收穫良好的話，我們將會在明年繼續這樣做 Of course it seems like it's received well when you ignore the one thing people care about. 歐~ 這個事件收到的效果當然看起來非常好，只要你能不在乎人們在乎甚麼就可以。 God damnit, Bli$$ard. 翻到這邊吧，整篇討論幾乎滿滿的反對，也是隨便翻個兩頁就看到滿滿的抱怨了，而且還不像在ptt常常看到神教無腦護航，目前也還沒看到幾個動不動就去比較手遊的教徒。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.223.205.47 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/OverWatch/M.1470303918.A.B8F.html

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