[NCAA] Heisman Trophy

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由Alabama 的 Mark Ingram奪得 恭喜 不過 ... 根據之前Heisman魔咒 當年Heisman得獎的那支隊伍 在Bowl game都會中邪輸球 是否今年能破除魔咒呢? 2006 Heisman Troy Smith 在National Championship Game 14-41輸給Florida 2007 Tim Tebow 在Bowl Game 35-41輸給了Michigan 2008 Sam Braford 在National Championship Game 14-24 輸給Florida 2009 Mark Ingram vs Texas Will he break the curse ? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 68.48.202.193
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12/13 10:39, , 1F
Another BS Heisman vote, it's not best college player
12/13 10:39, 1F
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12/13 10:40, , 2F
award, it becomes best-stats-on-#1-team award.
12/13 10:40, 2F
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12/13 10:41, , 3F
樓上何解?
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12/13 10:46, , 4F
two words: Ndamukong Suh
12/13 10:46, 4F
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12/13 10:49, , 5F
Suh is the best and most dominating college football
12/13 10:49, 5F
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12/13 10:49, , 6F
player, hands down. Heisman again shows no love for
12/13 10:49, 6F
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12/13 10:50, , 7F
defensive player.
12/13 10:50, 7F
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12/13 11:11, , 8F
best-stats-on-#1-team award有什麼不好?
12/13 11:11, 8F
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12/13 11:11, , 9F
要看數據有各項獎項可以得
12/13 11:11, 9F
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12/13 12:03, , 10F
05年Reggie Bush...USC那年輸給了Vince Young領軍的Texas
12/13 12:03, 10F
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12/13 12:04, , 11F
不過Leinert 04年拿Heisman 結果USC那年還是贏Oklahoma
12/13 12:04, 11F
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12/13 12:04, , 12F
拿下全國冠軍 所以Curse是從05那年開始的...
12/13 12:04, 12F
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12/13 12:08, , 13F
It seems like Xtreme agrees Heisman should be renamed
12/13 12:08, 13F
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12/13 12:09, , 14F
to best-stats-on-#1-team award instead of most
12/13 12:09, 14F
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12/13 12:09, , 15F
outstanding player award. XD
12/13 12:09, 15F
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12/13 12:34, , 16F
this is full of crap and all about media love
12/13 12:34, 16F
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12/13 12:35, , 17F
Ingram is not even the best RB in the nation
12/13 12:35, 17F
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12/13 12:35, , 18F
and second worst stat in the Heisman history
12/13 12:35, 18F
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12/13 12:36, , 19F
支持的人拿不到獎就是BS是Crap? 既然知道是crap又何必生氣?
12/13 12:36, 19F
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12/13 12:36, , 20F
HOW COULD YOU WIN THE BEST PLAYER AWARD
12/13 12:36, 20F
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12/13 12:36, , 21F
獎只有一個 天下哪有公平的事?
12/13 12:36, 21F
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12/13 12:37, , 22F
IF YOU ARE NOT EVEN THE BEST PLAYER IN YOUR POS?
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12/13 12:37, , 23F
Suh可以拿到最大NFL合約，McCoy還有一場可以證明自己
12/13 12:37, 23F
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12/13 12:37, , 24F
Thing is Ingram doesn't deserve the best player
12/13 12:37, 24F
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12/13 12:38, , 25F
I don't care whether McCoy get Heisman
12/13 12:38, 25F
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12/13 12:38, , 26F
Best position自己有獎項ok? Heisman=MVP近年來都是這樣的
12/13 12:38, 26F
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12/13 12:40, , 27F
要看數據那Graham Harrell Case Keenum應該拿這二年
12/13 12:40, 27F
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12/13 12:41, , 28F
So it's "one game" MVP? huh?
12/13 12:41, 28F
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12/13 12:43, , 29F
Alabama is could be undefeated not because
12/13 12:43, 29F
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12/13 12:43, , 30F
of Ingram
12/13 12:43, 30F
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12/13 12:44, , 31F
look back Bama's scheudle tell me how many game they
12/13 12:44, 31F
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12/13 12:44, , 32F
won because of their defense? huh?
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12/13 12:45, , 33F
Ingram just provides some steady contribution
12/13 12:45, 33F
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12/13 12:45, , 34F
and have one or two big games
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12/13 12:49, , 35F
and his number is the second worst in the history
12/13 12:49, 35F
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12/13 12:49, , 36F
you tell me this is MVP in the nation?
12/13 12:49, 36F
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12/13 12:49, , 37F
face the truth it is all about media love
12/13 12:49, 37F
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12/13 13:32, , 38F
樓上We all know who you gonna say who really deserves
12/13 13:32, 38F
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12/13 13:32, , 39F
it, so save it.
12/13 13:32, 39F
還有 117 則推文
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12/13 18:35, , 157F
你要不要看看Shu 受傷不打 Ned 會少贏多少場
12/13 18:35, 157F
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12/13 18:36, , 158F
默行其妙嘛 這是
12/13 18:36, 158F
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12/13 18:36, , 159F
而且跟其他winner 比起來他的數字是史上倒數第二
12/13 18:36, 159F
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12/13 18:37, , 160F
重要性比不過人家 數字也比不過人家
12/13 18:37, 160F
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12/13 18:37, , 161F
這樣拿的很理直氣壯嗎?
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12/13 23:40, , 162F
你有看過Bama第一場比賽嗎? 沒有Ingram第一場就敗了
12/13 23:40, 162F
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12/13 23:40, , 163F
每個人都很值得，獎就一個，都已經頒了不爽也沒用(茶)
12/13 23:40, 163F
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12/14 00:05, , 164F
說實在的,有關於Heisman,我到覺得ESPN算是沒有偏頗任何人
12/14 00:05, 164F
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12/14 00:05, , 165F
裡面幾個大佬說要投給誰的時候,其實都挺平均的
12/14 00:05, 165F
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12/14 00:06, , 166F
Suh和Toby的表現,我也沒話講.看了TEX/NEB, OU/NEB, USC/STAN
12/14 00:06, 166F
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12/14 00:07, , 167F
的比賽, 我也一度懷疑會是他們兩個拿. 但是我想
12/14 00:07, 167F
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12/14 00:07, , 168F
1.regional排擠效應太強. Suh和McCoy同區,McCoy拿B12冠軍
12/14 00:07, 168F
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12/14 00:09, , 169F
Suh和McCoy馬上先起衝突. 至於Toby,他欠缺某種程度上的包裝
12/14 00:09, 169F
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12/14 00:09, , 170F
Ingram上CBS,ESPN太多次(轉播),Toby的STAN印象中幾乎沒有
12/14 00:09, 170F
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12/14 00:11, , 171F
坦白說,今年給Tebow以外的四位,我都沒意見.選Heisman
12/14 00:11, 171F
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12/14 00:11, , 172F
的方是我是不太清楚,但很明顯,戰績這方面實在很吃香.
12/14 00:11, 172F
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12/14 00:12, , 173F
如果要比數據,那就像X大說的,Keenum,Harrell早該得了
12/14 00:12, 173F
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12/14 00:13, , 174F
就看你怎麼定義Heisman的解釋是甚麼.
12/14 00:13, 174F
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12/14 00:18, , 175F
既然人家是選Ingram,就可見數據並不是在所有投票者中認為
12/14 00:18, 175F
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12/14 00:19, , 176F
最重要的數據. 或者, 也不是用甚麼"從一隊抽掉"的想法去評估
12/14 00:19, 176F
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12/14 02:26, , 177F
如果不是用數字或是重要性 那要拿什麼當依據呢?
12/14 02:26, 177F
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12/14 02:27, , 178F
雖說數據不是最重要的 但是也不能太爛吧?
12/14 02:27, 178F
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12/14 02:27, , 179F
i mean 不能太普通吧?
12/14 02:27, 179F
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12/14 02:28, , 180F
一整個投票的過程就偏向media love
12/14 02:28, 180F
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12/14 02:29, , 181F
這是最不能接受的地方
12/14 02:29, 181F
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12/14 02:30, , 182F
要拿這個獎就要該有的數字或是相對數字
12/14 02:30, 182F
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12/14 02:30, , 183F
也必須要該有的重要性
12/14 02:30, 183F
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12/14 02:32, , 184F
這也是這獎最原始的選擇方式
12/14 02:32, 184F
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12/14 02:34, , 185F
ESPN從SEC Champ 打完之後就開始每天大力推銷
12/14 02:34, 185F
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12/14 02:36, , 186F
Bama跟Ingram 然後一直在電視上說我會投誰我會投誰
12/14 02:36, 186F
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12/14 03:35, , 187F
投票啊 就像Jeter拿金手套一樣啊XD
12/14 03:35, 187F
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12/14 03:46, , 188F
樓樓上，ESPN在季初講最多的是Tebow、McCoy、Ingram
12/14 03:46, 188F
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12/14 03:48, , 189F
Gerhart的名字是在USC莫再提之後才冒出來，Suh在季末
12/14 03:48, 189F
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12/14 03:48, , 190F
稍微有被提到，大十二冠軍賽後變成熱門之一。
12/14 03:48, 190F
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12/14 12:50, , 191F
ㄐ特拿金手套那個比喻真讚 XD
12/14 12:50, 191F
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12/14 12:52, , 192F
不過拿Heisman跟以後在Pro的發展的關係並不是那麼強
12/14 12:52, 192F
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12/14 12:54, , 193F
所以這種投票選出來的獎大家看看就好
12/14 12:54, 193F
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12/14 23:40, , 194F
ESPN 的 E 就是 Entertainment 嘛！不用意外啦！ XD
12/14 23:40, 194F
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12/03 21:50, 5年前 , 195F
i mean 不能太普 https://muxiv.com
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04/14 14:24, 5年前 , 196F
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