Re: [情報] Rivers:鉛筆是沒打好 但Tatum也沒打好阿

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※ 引述《PaulDavis (Paul Davis的歌手差不多)》之銘言： : https://risu.io/i2512 https://is.gd/hbsMkj 拆成太多篇了，這邊有全文 No. 1, he has to be healthy. In the playoffs and this was the healthiest, but he still wasn’t 100%. Then No. 2 for Jo, is he’s got to make all his players better in the playoffs and Jo, his numbers are unfair, because he’s really — if you look at his numbers in the last three years in the playoffs, compared to his regular season numbers, they’re not very good. But a lot of that is due — the first year I had him he hurts his knee. The next year, he hits his face and tears ligaments in his hand, and then this year he has a knee injury and he was never the same once he came back this year. So health is No. 1. Then the second thing is Jo and he has the ability, I stayed on him daily. He has the ability to make his teammates better and when he does it, if you look at our games this year when he did that and dominated, hard to go away from Joel Embiid. It really is. He’s just got to do that on a consistent basis. Not just on the court, but also off the court. Just be around the guys and spend time with your guys and let them know that you love them because they love you. And so I thought that Jo in the three years, you can see the growth there. I think we forget how young he is. We also forget his first two years he didn’t play and I’m telling you that sets a tone. Like when you miss two years and you’re sitting there all the time and you get used to not playing in games. That sets the tone. Ben Simmons went through the same thing. He missed the first year and so fighting early on when I first got there was huge . ‘Jo, you need to play tonight. Jo, you can play tonight’ and now he’s up in games and so he’s doing that. He’s crossed that barrier. The next one will be making his teammates better. When he does that, it’s gonna be hard to stop and I think he will do it. I just think we forget his age and we forget how we started in this league. 鉛筆不夠健康。我執教的過去三年他一直都帶傷。 帶傷休息太久之後很難找回狀態。 鉛筆需要和隊友相處得更好，幫助他們變得更好。 You can feel it all through the organization and Elton (Brand), when he brought me in, that’s what he told me like ‘Hey, this is not just about coaching his team. We’re bringing you in here to change the culture’ and he meant everywhere and he allowed me to come in and we looked through the whole organization. I’m talking about trainers, equipment managers, everybody. … If you’re not on board, if you’re not trying to win and that’s not what you ’re breathing every day. For me, it’s time to go, and I meant that with everybody in the organization and overall, I thought we were starting to get it done. You can see the change in the culture, and so I think the growth of that is there. I think they still have some growth in that department as well. Alert is the word I’m using and sometimes you can’t worry about that. You just got to do your job. You got to worry about the basketball part of it and that’s the reaction to what everything happens, but their culture has definitely gotten better. I had a big part in that and now the grow from there , it still has to get better and if that happens, then they have a chance. If it doesn’t happen, they’re not gonna win. It has to keep growing. 從我到來開始改變了七六人的文化。 你可以看到了球隊文化的改變。 When I look back on that game, because that was the decider, right? Basketball -wise, we got to get the ball to Joel more, and trust me, we came out in plays where it should have gone there and it just didn’t arrive there, and so those are big plays. Now listen, Joel was not having a great game, but neither was (Jayson) Tatum, and my belief is so that you still go to your guy and you keep letting him save the day for you, and I thought we went away from that and then the second part of the fluky part. Tatum, if you remember the big play, we gambled on a play somewhere, someone gambled, but I can’t remember who it was. Maybe Maxey. I don’t even know who it was. Went for a steal, didn ’t get it and they gambled on Jayson Tatum and left him wide open, and he made a corner in front of the Celtic bench. And that was — it takes these guys but one shot and that was … and now he’s on. And from that point, we were dead. 戰術角度來說，我們需要給鉛筆更多球。 很多球本應該到他但是沒有傳到。 雖然他打不好但是我們還是應該把球給到王牌，讓他試圖拯救你。 It was challenging, more because we were fighting two things, and not like visually fighting, it was James is so good at playing one way, and the way I believe you have to play to win, in some ways, is different because it’s a lot of giving up the ball, moving the ball, coming back to the ball. I would have loved to have him younger, when that was easier for him because giving up the ball and getting back the ball is hard. It’s physical, it’s exhausting. So, it would have been interesting if I would have had him younger where he could have done that more. Coming off of dribble handoffs, going downhill. He didn’t finish as well as he finished because he’s older, and that happens. So, yeah, at times, to get him to move it and get him to play the way I needed him to play. I thought the first half of the year, we were the best team in the game. I thought James was playing perfect basketball. He was the point guard of the team. He was still scoring, but he was doing more playmaking and scoring. Then in the second half, he started scoring more, trying to score more, and I thought we got stagnant at times. I thought we changed. 執教哈登很困難，很難要求他照我的需要的方式打球。 要是他年輕可能更容易達到我的要求。 他專注得分時，我感覺有時候我們的進攻就停滯了。 You want a guy, and I think James did a little bit of that, like James would speak up, and so you need that—you need you need another alpha in the room. So if Jo is not doing something to call Jo on ‘Jo, you gotta do this’ and Jo will listen to that. 需要找一個領袖加入。 一個可以提醒鉛筆「你這件事情沒做好」，然後鉛筆會聽的人。 If I could pick the perfect guy without a name, it would be a big point guard who could score and the reason is we need a playmaker other than Joel and ( Tyrese) Maxey right now is more of a scorer. He’s a downhill scorer with speed. The dude brings joy to every coach in the room every day like you would love Tyrese Maxey just every day being Tyrese Maxey, but when we can free him up to just go score and you can make a case like a (Manu) Ginobili who at times was their point with his passing, gave them toughness, was an attacker, was great off the ball, but that allowed Tony Parker to just go and be free. Like someone in that category would be the perfect fit. 七六人需要一個能夠得分的大個子控衛， 需要一個除了鉛筆之外能夠創造進攻機會的球員， 像Manu這種，可傳球，打球強硬，有攻擊能力，又擅長無球的， 就是完美選項。 他的七六人畢業報告 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.26.16.219 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1686721132.A.F43.html
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06/14 13:39, 11月前 , 1F
他更年輕給河流帶而不是MDA 鬍子可能沒MVP了 www
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比帶後衛 MDA可以屌打河流兩條街
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06/14 13:41, 11月前 , 3F
懶人包：我帶來改變，但是球員不爭氣
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06/14 13:41, 11月前 , 4F
這教練可以喊他超爛了吧...到底怎麼一直有工作
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06/14 13:41, 11月前 , 5F
一個可以提醒鉛筆「你這件事情沒做好」，然後鉛筆會
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06/14 13:41, 11月前 , 6F
聽的人。--->有啊不就吉巴，可惜76人想要西門。
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06/14 13:41, 11月前 , 7F
我很好 都是they... 然後我目前待業中 選我選我~
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06/14 13:43, 11月前 , 8F
會不會是看到monty那樣 也想要...
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06/14 13:43, 11月前 , 9F
靠…他講的這些很多不是教練的工作嗎？
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06/14 13:43, 11月前 , 10F
提醒鉛筆那段 靠北不就你的工作
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06/14 13:44, 11月前 , 11F
大個子控衛我知道最近有個剛開始回歸練球了
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06/14 13:44, 11月前 , 12F
提醒鉛筆「你這件事情沒做好」 教練的工作
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06/14 13:44, 11月前 , 13F
呵呵 以前有阿 GM選錯人 不過你要全怪哈登不應該
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06/14 13:44, 11月前 , 14F
休息室老將不是有塔客嗎...X!老河又在睜眼說瞎話...
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06/14 13:44, 11月前 , 15F
提醒鉛筆「你這件事情沒做好」鉛筆不聽 也是你的鍋
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06/14 13:44, 11月前 , 16F
我感覺他把上節目拿來自薦 所以都講自己好的
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06/14 13:45, 11月前 , 17F
你只是要找一個人揹鍋而已
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06/14 13:45, 11月前 , 18F
鬍子表示:到底是你教練 還是我教練
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06/14 13:45, 11月前 , 19F
球星都不聽我的話 不是我的錯
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06/14 13:46, 11月前 , 20F
球給金筆也就是打鐵而已
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06/14 13:46, 11月前 , 21F
靠邀啦 提醒鉛筆 和塞球給鉛筆不是你的問題嗎
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06/14 13:46, 11月前 , 22F
還好太陽沒選他XD
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06/14 13:46, 11月前 , 23F
都是they的錯
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06/14 13:46, 11月前 , 24F
老河:要有人提醒鉛筆 還是老河:大家球要給到鉛筆啊~
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06/14 13:46, 11月前 , 25F
原來鬍子是又矮、又沒攻擊能力、還不會傳球的後衛
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06/14 13:46, 11月前 , 26F
鬍子都救了你兩場 還想怎樣
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06/14 13:46, 11月前 , 27F
只有鉛筆才能拯救大家~
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06/14 13:47, 11月前 , 28F
陽迷應該鬆了一口氣
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06/14 13:47, 11月前 , 29F
而且鬍子算是滿配合的吧 去76之後出手數少這麼多
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06/14 13:47, 11月前 , 30F
they的錯 END
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06/14 13:47, 11月前 , 31F
等會補推
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06/14 13:47, 11月前 , 32F
聯盟助攻王被教練拔球權去無球 www
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06/14 13:48, 11月前 , 33F
球給鬍子還比給金筆強多了 金筆就是被登餵出來的
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06/14 13:48, 11月前 , 34F
最軟蛋的那種 老實說就靠膚色和GAP
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06/14 13:48, 11月前 , 35F
換個有擔當的教練一定不會比雞湯王差
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06/14 13:48, 11月前 , 36F
哈登不就是
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06/14 13:48, 11月前 , 37F
難怪鬍子心灰意冷
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06/14 13:49, 11月前 , 38F
至少是要他滾了 看還有沒機會
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06/14 13:50, 11月前 , 39F
意思就是鉛筆做錯而河流提醒他不聽啊~
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還有 197 則推文
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06/14 20:11, 11月前 , 237F
我要求過哈登 他也不聽我的
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06/14 20:12, 11月前 , 238F
我改變了球隊的文化
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06/14 20:38, 11月前 , 239F
需要身材高大控衛--西門，能點鉛筆的人--吉巴
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06/14 20:39, 11月前 , 240F
結果其實就是當年鉛筆烙賽導致G7輸暴龍那年
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06/14 20:40, 11月前 , 241F
捧一個拿最多錢打最爛的，要其他苦撐的球員背鍋
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06/14 20:40, 11月前 , 242F
難怪他被火了
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噓
06/14 20:41, 11月前 , 243F
執教巨頭不容易，但你是Doc Rivers欸...
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06/14 20:50, 11月前 , 244F
老河戰術：球給鉛筆
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06/14 20:50, 11月前 , 245F
受傷還拿MVP?
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06/14 20:57, 11月前 , 246F
沒哈登早輸了zz
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06/14 21:04, 11月前 , 247F
爛人還需更爛的人來治，鬍子QQ
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06/14 21:06, 11月前 , 248F
到底在公三小
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06/14 21:21, 11月前 , 249F
沒哈登爆發那兩場你就要被橫掃耶
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06/14 21:31, 11月前 , 250F
人家是過程，為什麼要聽你的，繼續過程中
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06/14 21:35, 11月前 , 251F
你真覺得吉巴在老河手下不會發作？
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06/14 22:00, 11月前 , 252F
幫翻譯給他小河流，給你東決地板
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06/14 22:43, 11月前 , 253F
結果等等76人找河流回來繼續執教XD
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06/14 23:26, 11月前 , 254F
翻譯:都是they的臭
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06/14 23:27, 11月前 , 255F
不要質疑史上最會翻車的總教練
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06/14 23:55, 11月前 , 256F
這咖真自我感覺良好
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06/15 01:22, 11月前 , 257F
JB粉好了啦...當時給76人選100次都會選西門的
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06/15 01:23, 11月前 , 258F
再說了以JB那德行跟哭哭MVP打球氣氛會好? 哭哭MVP可
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06/15 01:23, 11月前 , 259F
不像阿爹這麼甘願當小弟
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06/15 02:54, 11月前 , 260F
鬍子：不如歸去
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06/15 03:47, 11月前 , 261F
你要不要聽聽看你在說什麼 頂級的奧咖欸
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06/15 04:38, 11月前 , 262F
這白癡到底在共三小 史上最廢教頭 靠gap撿到一冠的
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06/15 04:39, 11月前 , 263F
咖小
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06/15 09:07, 11月前 , 264F
球給鉛筆 然後剩下四個人看他在那邊面框耍白痴然
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06/15 09:07, 11月前 , 265F
後打鐵有比較好？ 真的不知道在工三小
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06/15 09:33, 11月前 , 266F
最爛就是你
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06/15 09:39, 11月前 , 267F
雖然鉛筆確實不是領袖的料需要人帶，但老河這甩鍋
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06/15 09:39, 11月前 , 268F
也是臉皮夠厚了
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06/15 10:15, 11月前 , 269F
這文是廢物自介嗎？
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06/15 10:34, 11月前 , 270F
Manu也是巨頭等級的耶 有薪資空間嗎
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06/15 12:59, 11月前 , 271F
球三全部符合 缺點是痛痛
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06/15 15:07, 11月前 , 272F
鬍子還要被你們兩個媽寶嫌喔
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06/15 16:16, 11月前 , 273F
鬍子比鬼禿還全能 你還能嫌呀
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06/15 19:58, 11月前 , 274F
這教練真的爛
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06/15 20:28, 11月前 , 275F
他到底怎麼一直有工作的
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06/16 03:31, 11月前 , 276F
一群魯蛇在那邊互相推卸責任，超級可悲
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