[外絮] 尼克若想交易米丘，RJB是必要之殤

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https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/donovan-mitchell-trade-would-take-knicks-dealing-rj-barrett/ https://reurl.cc/e3e0jm RJ Barrett a necessary sacrifice if Knicks want Donovan Mitchell By Mike Vaccaro 若尼克想交易來米丘，RJB是必要的籌碼 The draft picks are the easy part, let’s be honest. They are attractive to look at, for sure. Leon Rose has collected them merrily, guarded them meticulously, and jealously. There are 11 first-rounders stowed away carefully under the glass in the Knicks’ warehouse, like a prized collection of stamps, coins or baseball cards. 選秀簽好談 LR像集郵一般的呵護他們，並有多達11隻可動用首輪 Rose was not willing to part with a plethora of them a few weeks ago when the Spurs were shopping Dejounte Murray, and so Murray wound up with the Hawks. Murray is an excellent player. He and Jalen Brunson would’ve made a dynamic pairing in the backcourt at the Garden. But he isn’t Donovan Mitchell. 幾週前，當馬刺願意交易DjM,LR不願意跟選秀權說再見，所以他最終去了老鷹。Murray是一位特別的球員，他跟Brunson的暴力後場可以活躍在花園球場上 但他不是Donovan Mitchell And according to The Athletic, Mitchell is once again in play. According to the report, Mitchell — three-time All-Star, Westchester County native, owner of a 23.9 career points-per-game average — is being dangled by the Jazz. And the Knicks are thought to be at the front of the line, trying to swing a deal. 根據The Athletic報導，這位生涯場均23.9分的三屆全明星被擺上交易台。而尼克被認為領跑其餘球隊，並積極的促成交易。 The Knicks have all those draft picks, and this is precisely why they have assembled them. They are assets, and if you are willing to part with enough of them they can make a deal more attractive. But the Jazz are a smart operation. It will take more than draft picks — even if the Knicks are willing to part with four or five of them, which is what it took Minnesota to pry Rudy Gobert away from Utah. The Jazz are going to want players. 尼克有交易米丘的資產- 選秀簽，而這正是尼克收集他們的原因。但即使尼克願意同灰狼帶走狗貝一般放棄4-5個選秀，爵士還會要求更多（潛力）球員 The Jazz are going to want, almost certainly, RJ Barrett (and, if I were a betting man, one of either Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes or Obi Toppin). 幾乎可以肯定，RJB必須放進包裹（若我喜歡放手一博，則會從Quixkley,Grimes與Toppin中帶走一個） And this is where things get hard. This is where if you are Leon Rose you have to ask yourself a cold-blooded question: which version of my roster drags the Knicks closer to where they need to be? Barrett would be a tough sacrifice. Knicks fans have watched him grow up over three years. He is still only 22. His work ethic and capacity for improvement are matters of public record. And he is probably the most popular player on the team right now. He could be a perennial All-Star. 這就是困難的地方，LR需要冷血的自問，自己想要哪種版本的隊伍。 球迷見證了他3年的成長，Barrett有天賦有能力，而且他才22歲。他是隊上最有人氣的球員。 他可能成為All Star的常客 But Mitchell — himself only 25 years old and locked up contractually for four more years — is a perennial All-Star. He has had winning in his blood forever, first at Louisville, lately with the Jazz. As tempting as a Brunson/Murray backcourt was to ponder, a Brunson/Mitchell partnership could truly project to being a cornerstone of an eventual contender. 但米丘 - 綁了4年約，25歲已經是全明星的常客。而他與JB的後場也確實可以成為追逐冠軍的基石 Me? When the choice is young with accomplishment versus younger with upside, I will take the former every time. And I absolutely love watching Barrett play, have loved watching him blossom at the Garden before our eyes. Is it a massive haul? It is. 至於我，年輕+實績與年輕+天花板中的選擇，我總會選擇前者。 我喜歡RJB在我們的主場時，在我眼前得分成長 這是一個巨大的抉擇嗎？是的 米丘可以讓尼克總在東區前4嗎？ 不一定 But the Knicks are in danger right now of being in an even more difficult predicament than they were before Rose arrived, when they were simply an annual piece of the NBA’s dregs. At least when you’re awful every year there’s the lottery — even if, in the Knicks’ case, that’s proven to be a fool’s-gold quest the last 37 years. Where they are now? Stuck in the never-never land of mediocrity, of 35 to 45 wins every year — too good to have legit lottery odds, too bad to be reckoned with as credible contenders — is a hamster wheel of oblivion, a treadmill to nowhere. 尼克面臨比LR來之前更艱難的選擇，因為尼克那時候就是聯盟的渣渣 ，至少當你爛透了的時候會有樂透選秀。而在尼克37年的歷史來看，每次（在交易）都是一種經典的傻瓜交易 每年35-45勝，讓尼克有如卡在倉鼠輪，不是一個可靠的競爭者，也得不到樂透為球隊注入新生命。 At some point, you have to go for the carrot. Is Mitchell that carrot? What he is, more likely, is the kind of piece that makes the Knicks a more attractive option than they’ve been in 25 years for future free agents with wanderlust in their hearts. And again, the question is this: what version of the Knicks’ roster makes that more plausible, with Barrett or with Mitchell? It says here Mitchell. The cost will be steep, and losing a player like Barrett will sting, and for those for whom first-round picks are more valuable than platinum there will be some wrung hands. But Knicks fans are immune to the pain by now; all they crave is a cure. Mitchell would be a pricey cure. But he makes them better. And that’s supposed to still matter. 有些時候，你總是要做出決定 米丘是那個決定嗎？他會讓尼克成為25年來最好的樣子嗎？再問你自己一次，米丘或是Barrett 你想要哪個核心的球隊。 雖然失去Barrett讓人痛苦，選秀簽沒有不見，只是變成你喜歡的樣子。尼克可望被治癒，而米丘就是那個昂貴的治療方案，他讓我們更好，這仍是最重要的。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.137.61.200 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1657678417.A.638.html
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07/13 10:15, 1年前 , 1F
芭樂特變成米丘
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07/13 10:15, 1年前 , 2F
不要吧
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07/13 10:16, 1年前 , 3F
放RJB+選秀 感覺很虧阿
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07/13 10:17, 1年前 , 4F
兩個矮刷子..怕
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07/13 10:17, 1年前 , 5F
哦...@@ 你尼也知道交易大盤商
07/13 10:17, 5F
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07/13 10:17, 1年前 , 6F
都簽Brunson了
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07/13 10:17, 1年前 , 7F
JB+米丘 這後場防守不行吧，雖然RJB天花板也不高
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07/13 10:17, 1年前 , 8F
安吉又要開秀了嗎
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 9F
樓下是總管 會換嗎
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 10F
這不就進攻強化版的米糠
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 11F
RJB感覺就是一定要給，如果真的很想要
07/13 10:18, 11F
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 12F
兩個矮子準備被打爆
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 13F
當初尼克真該換莫雷包 起碼有人能coverJB
07/13 10:18, 13F
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 14F
尼克裡面不是狗貝欸 這後場保證被爽虐
07/13 10:18, 14F
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 15F
雖然Mitchell是更好的球員，但後場搭檔如果是Brunso
07/13 10:18, 15F
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 16F
n，Barrett還是比Mitchell適合一點吧
07/13 10:18, 16F
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07/13 10:18, 1年前 , 17F
芭樂特一定要出的
07/13 10:18, 17F
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07/13 10:19, 1年前 , 18F
不對 米丘回家就會認真守備了 呵呵 在小城市才不守
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07/13 10:19, 1年前 , 19F
傻了嗎
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07/13 10:20, 1年前 , 20F
目前RJB進步也有限..進攻很不穩定
07/13 10:20, 20F
噓
07/13 10:20, 1年前 , 21F
這兩個加起來要奪冠？傻了？
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07/13 10:20, 1年前 , 22F
但防守的確不會像米邱一樣爛就是了
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07/13 10:20, 1年前 , 23F
其實米丘進聯盟前記得是防守魔人結果沒想到練成醬
07/13 10:20, 23F
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07/13 10:21, 1年前 , 24F
JB RJB Randle打看看吧
07/13 10:21, 24F
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07/13 10:21, 1年前 , 25F
RJB換個環境也好，在尼克不大穩定
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07/13 10:21, 1年前 , 26F
尼克現在不賭 也要面臨RJB續約問題
07/13 10:21, 26F
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07/13 10:21, 1年前 , 27F
有JB 看看Randle跟RJB進攻會不會穩定點
07/13 10:21, 27F
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07/13 10:22, 1年前 , 28F
不然沒控衛看兩個R那邊打鐵...
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07/13 10:22, 1年前 , 29F
他也不太可能頂薪吧
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07/13 10:23, 1年前 , 30F
不如放RJB練Reddish
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07/13 10:25, 1年前 , 31F
看RJB打球也很骰
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07/13 10:26, 1年前 , 32F
RJB防守已經是plus了，不用跟Mitchell比
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07/13 10:27, 1年前 , 33F
看到放RJB練Reddish的推文 真的是笑掉大牙耶
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07/13 10:29, 1年前 , 34F
RJB上季進攻變不穩，本來以為要大進化，卻反而撞牆
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07/13 10:29, 1年前 , 35F
19梯前五只有Hunter和他是能主防對手主力的
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07/13 10:29, 1年前 , 36F
自選的留一個吧 不然都剩外來種
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07/13 10:29, 1年前 , 37F
奪冠基石….
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07/13 10:30, 1年前 , 38F
JB+米秋後場防守行嗎...
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07/13 10:31, 1年前 , 39F
Rjb上季慘是因為紅茶擺爛吧 突然被迫當一哥
07/13 10:31, 39F
還有 51 則推文
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07/13 11:37, 1年前 , 91F
別急著換吧 至少看原陣容打半季試試 後場JB 雷丘防
07/13 11:37, 91F
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07/13 11:37, 1年前 , 92F
守是想直接open嗎？
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07/13 11:38, 1年前 , 93F
6-1戰隊
07/13 11:38, 93F
噓
07/13 11:42, 1年前 , 94F
別吧 每次滿手好牌都敗給過譽球星
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07/13 11:42, 1年前 , 95F
雷丘這種砍分仔退化速度都很快
07/13 11:42, 95F
噓
07/13 11:46, 1年前 , 96F
米丘需要高一點的後場來cover防守 雙矮是想步爵士
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07/13 11:46, 1年前 , 97F
後塵?
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07/13 11:51, 1年前 , 98F
RJB那麼鳥 放進去沒差吧
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07/13 11:53, 1年前 , 99F
先發後場是JB+米丘 也只有CAA+尼克幹得出來
07/13 11:53, 99F
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07/13 11:56, 1年前 , 100F
這個命中率... 寧願留著米邱亂射
07/13 11:56, 100F
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07/13 12:01, 1年前 , 101F
這兩個基石怎麼疊起來還這麼矮啊
07/13 12:01, 101F
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07/13 12:08, 1年前 , 102F
JB加米邱，是要對手後衛每場都打出生涯新高喔
07/13 12:08, 102F
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07/13 12:26, 1年前 , 103F
老實說爵迷更想要RJB的情況是狗貝還在的時候把米丘
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07/13 12:26, 1年前 , 104F
賣掉得來的 現在沒有狗貝了 就等於重建然後換球員養
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07/13 12:26, 1年前 , 105F
而已
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07/13 12:28, 1年前 , 106F
RJB以前很猛的，U19一人單挑美國隊誒
07/13 12:28, 106F
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07/13 12:28, 1年前 , 107F
RJB真的別放
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07/13 12:29, 1年前 , 108F
看看東區前四，兩個矮後衛的後場可真是好主意呢
07/13 12:29, 108F
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07/13 13:08, 1年前 , 109F
本季我尼送走183公分的walker,迎來185公分的bronson
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07/13 13:08, 1年前 , 110F
,現打算再換185公分的mitchell來？
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07/13 13:12, 1年前 , 111F
這兩個人互換有差嗎 沒防守 進攻又偏骰
07/13 13:12, 111F
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07/13 13:28, 1年前 , 112F
JB+米丘+紅茶，尼克是不打算防守嗎
07/13 13:28, 112F
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07/13 13:47, 1年前 , 113F
差別在米邱無傷痛可暴力砍分 RJB只是六神無主亂投
07/13 13:47, 113F
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07/13 13:48, 1年前 , 114F
真要關鍵時刻當一哥 米邱還是比RJB好
07/13 13:48, 114F
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07/13 13:49, 1年前 , 115F
米邱防守也不至於太爛 上季爛感覺是傷痛加心態
07/13 13:49, 115F
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07/13 13:58, 1年前 , 116F
明星潛力側翼換砍將型後衛…應該沒球隊這麼傻 除非
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07/13 13:58, 1年前 , 117F
你是國王尼克之類XD
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07/13 14:24, 1年前 , 118F
換啊 RJB佑沒多強
07/13 14:24, 118F
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07/13 14:28, 1年前 , 119F
米丘在後衛中算會守的
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07/13 14:57, 1年前 , 120F
亂講
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07/13 15:17, 1年前 , 121F
兩個矮子 不就拓荒者2.0 衝個毛冠軍啊 二輪差不多
07/13 15:17, 121F
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07/13 15:17, 1年前 , 122F
頂天了
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07/13 17:38, 1年前 , 123F
我是覺得米丘頂得住大蘋果的壓力 不是因為他紐約人
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07/13 17:39, 1年前 , 124F
而是他心態上頂得住 這種人格特質放在NBA就是天賦了
07/13 17:39, 124F
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07/13 19:59, 1年前 , 125F
兩個矮後衛，但側翼不矮吧，至少會比三重打四號好
07/13 19:59, 125F
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07/13 20:00, 1年前 , 126F
尼克
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07/13 20:40, 1年前 , 127F
RJB 千萬不要啊 拜託了
07/13 20:40, 127F
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07/14 01:28, 1年前 , 128F
拜託不要換 RJB的價值比雷丘好多了
07/14 01:28, 128F
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07/14 08:28, 1年前 , 129F
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07/14 08:29, 1年前 , 130F
代價這麼高,傻子才會同意吧？
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