Re: [外電] Open Letter to Riles

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這篇文章寫得真是好,一語道破所有熱火迷+偉哥迷的心聲(Riley迷例外) 還請高手來各清楚翻譯,火迷們就知道他寫的有多好。 從幾個方向來看Riley為自己辯駁今夏沒動作的回覆。 一是從Riley的10年大計來看,從薪資角度來說明就算簽了Bosh, 熱火到了2011年起一堆小朋友要換約,到時候拿什麼去換?空氣? 就算換到Bosh,也不一定代表空蕩蕩的熱火主場會高朋滿座, 以精明生意人著稱的老闆,會忍受這樣不幅成本的投資? 更何況挖了Bosh+Wade組合,把所有薪資空間用光, 用兩個明星加一堆雜魚就能奪冠嗎? 二是從Wade續約談起,叫Riley有自信點,如果給Wade一些有幫助的隊友, 以Wade的個性他一定會誓死效忠熱火,就像今夏騎士跟暴龍所做的一樣 三是從熱火球迷角度來看,如果今年熱火不順利,明年Wade一定會走人, Riley在熱火時期不管有多少豐功偉業,最被球迷稱讚的還是在03年帶來 熱火這隻年輕球隊到目前為止最代表的人物D.Wade 如果Riley讓Wade走掉,會讓很多很死忠的熱火迷感到憤怒, 畢竟這樣一隻年輕的球隊難得有一個隊史上最耀眼最具有代表性的巨星 (超過晨星跟timmy,畢竟Wade是熱火自己選自己養的superstar) Riley要是留不住Wade,那球迷以後只會記得Riley就是那個讓Wade走人的笨蛋GM 四是如果Wade走人,等2010年合約也到期的Riley會不會一起走?那熱火迷剩下什麼? 理由是從2001年Zo含淚退休Riley宣布重建開始,熱火花了五年才重回奪冠球隊行列 以Riley現在的年紀,他還願意再花五年去讓熱火重建? 他還有耐心跟時間來等待讓熱火重建?會不會再重演一次從尼克跳槽事件? 上面是我自己看完這篇文章的心得與感想(好像讀書報告唷) 總之,我覺得這作者寫得深得我心呀,大概只有Riley迷才會有點不爽想要辯駁, 但看到我的第四點,Riley迷悶心自問一下,如果Wade走後連Riley都會跑, 那有啥好幫Riley辯護的? ※ 引述《zenwu (橘子)》之銘言: : Dear Pat Riley, : I read about your latest comments on the outlook of your team earlier today. : You essentially said that there won't be any major moves in the future, and : that the only acquisitions that will be made before the start of training camp : will be small one-year deals. You said that you don't see yourself using the : mid-level exception. Additionally, you said that there have been no discussions : regarding a trade for Carlos Boozer. You said that the ultimate plan remains to : see internal growth from the team this season and then make a splash in free : agency next summer. : Fine, maybe you've learned your lesson from the 2007 off-season, when you : attempted to salvage the summer with the trade that brought Ricky Davis and : Mark Blount to Miami in exchange for Antoine Walker, Wayne Simien, Michael : Doleac and a 2009 first-round pick. A trip to the bottom of the standings : followed that trade, of course. And the trade still has its residue, with : Blount scheduled to make $8 million this season and Miami lacking a first-round : pick this summer. : While that trade was a monumental miscalculation, would the Heat really be much : better without it? Is it merely a coincidence that Walker, Simien and Doleac : are not in the NBA anymore? How much better would Miami have been with Walker : in place of Davis and Simien and Doleac in place of Blount? : It's understandable that you don't want to make changes just for the sake of : making changes, as you did in 2007. The painful truth is that what's already : here is inadequate, though. It's inadequate for Dwyane Wade and it's inadequate : for me, as a fan who doesn't want to see Wade carry the team on his shoulders : to lead the Heat to a mediocre record. : You are totally misled on the way you are approaching this off-season. You : should be operating with confidence that Wade will re-sign next summer. Why? : Because if you position your team to win a championship, your franchise player : will stay in Miami. He publicly committed to that. Look at what Danny Ferry is : doing for LeBron James in Cleveland. He's positioning his team to win a : championship so that it can retain James. Even Bryan Colangelo got Chris Bosh : someone who averaged 17 points, five rebounds and five assists last season in : Hedo Turkoglu. There's little doubt that Michael Beasley could offer similar : production when given the minutes, but Colangelo's counting on the contribution : of veterans like Turkogu and Jose Calderon to help Bosh, not on inexperienced : players like Beasley, Mario Chalmers and Daequan Cook. Hell, even Andrea : Bargnani averaged 15 points for the Raptors last season. Does Wade have that : type of offensive support? : Everyone knows what your master plan is: to sign Bosh next summer. There is a : big problem with this plan: it is very risky. Let's assume that Bosh will : bypass returning to Toronto or signing with any other team -- both of which are : completely plausible situations. So Miami locks up Wade and Bosh for the : duration of their primes. If they both make roughly $20 million, that's about : four-fifths of the possible $51 million salary cap next season. If the Heat : decides to keep James Jones, Michael Beasley, Daequan Cook and Mario Chalmers : -- all who have team options for the 2010-11 season -- that would put Miami at : the cap with just six players under contract. Heat owner Micky Arison has said : that he'll go into the luxury tax if it is for a contending team, but how deep : into the tax is he willing to go? Miami won't be positioning itself to be a big : spender in summer 2010 if it doesn't get big revenues during the upcoming : season. And I'm betting that, like last season, there will always be a sizable : number of empty seats at AmericanAirlines Arena. : Make no mistake, if the Heat doesn't get someone who can average at least 20 : points a game next summer, Wade will leave. Say what you want about how much : money the Heat has to spend in 2010 whether Wade stays or goes. Quite frankly, : it will be devastating for the team and the city of Miami to see No. 3 go. : Players like Flash don't come around every Draft, and anointing Beasley as the : franchise player would require quite a leap of faith. : I'd also like to address something that isn't brought up a lot. Your contract : with the Heat ends in 2010. Do you really have it in you to go through another : rebuilding project from scratch? During your tenure in Miami, the rebuilding : project started with Alonzo Mourning's announcement that he had a rare kidney : disease prior to the 2000-01 season. It ended with the championship in June : 2006. At your age, do you have it in yourself to go through five years of : hardships before winning it all? My guess is no. My guess is that if Wade : decides to leave Miami, you will too. : You're going to have to start thinking about the legacy you leave to the Heat. : You made the team relevant with the trades for Alonzo Mourning and Tim Hardaway : . You shrewdly drafted Wade in 2003 when the pundits speculated that you would : draft Chris Kaman to fill in Mourning's void. You traded for Shaquille O'Neal : to bring the Heat from a playoff contender to a championship contender. And the : following season, you acquired Walker, Jason Williams and James Posey to move : Miami from a championship contender to a championship team. : But if you don't get Wade the help he deserves, he will leave. Do you really : want to be known as the person who drove away the Heat's unequivocal best : player in franchise history? If that's the case, that will be your legacy to : Miami. Forget about 'Zo and Tim. Drafting Wade will be washed from the memories : of Heat fans. Bringing in Shaq, Walker, Williams and Posey won't matter. All : that'll matter is that you let the one great player in franchise history slip : from Miami's collective fingers. : That's why I am pleading to you as a die-hard Heat fan to get the man some : help. Now. : ============================================================================== : 這篇文章是當地一位熱火的專欄作家寫的... : 他說出了大部份球迷的心聲 哈哈 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.135.250.104 ※ 編輯: BlueSatan 來自: 220.135.250.104 (08/06 18:40) ※ 編輯: BlueSatan 來自: 220.135.250.104 (08/06 18:41)

08/06 18:43, , 1F
今年夏天根本沒什麼值得用中產去簽的球員
08/06 18:43, 1F

08/06 18:43, , 2F
Odom合約也開給他啦 還能簽誰?
08/06 18:43, 2F

08/06 18:44, , 3F
把這些薪資留下來明年用 一堆FA 不覺得Riley這樣有錯
08/06 18:44, 3F

08/06 18:46, , 4F
把薪資用在2010會比用在2009能讓球隊更有競爭力
08/06 18:46, 4F

08/06 18:46, , 5F
今年夏天一堆人都中產,怎麻會不值的...
08/06 18:46, 5F

08/06 18:46, , 6F
讓球隊更有競爭力不是也是留下Wade的一環嗎? 端看怎麼想
08/06 18:46, 6F

08/06 18:46, , 7F
PG方面現在有Session,未來可能有Felton,老鷹簽bibby才6M
08/06 18:46, 7F

08/06 18:47, , 8F
今年夏天一堆人都中產? 誰? 阿泰? Gortat?
08/06 18:47, 8F

08/06 18:47, , 9F
前鋒方面,Wilcox才3M,Gooden也低於5M,還有幾個好貨都便
08/06 18:47, 9F

08/06 18:48, , 10F
中鋒方面鍋貼才中產...老鷹的ZaZa也不貴
08/06 18:48, 10F

08/06 18:48, , 11F
更別說次級老將PG,看公牛簽Pargo才花多少錢,熱火出不起?
08/06 18:48, 11F

08/06 18:49, , 12F
你提的這些人有好到要放棄明年嗎? 而且好幾個都只簽一年
08/06 18:49, 12F

08/06 18:49, , 13F
就是一直想用中產去偷Odom或Marion這種佔便宜想法
08/06 18:49, 13F

08/06 18:50, , 14F
才會導致今夏Riley一事無成,最後他們簽的價格都高於中產
08/06 18:50, 14F

08/06 18:50, , 15F
Artest除外,他是對LA有愛對Kobe有愛,Miami能跟LA比?
08/06 18:50, 15F

08/06 18:50, , 16F
放棄明年?笑死人,簽各不到5M的人就叫放棄明年
08/06 18:50, 16F

08/06 18:51, , 17F
你的數學太好還是我的數學太爛?
08/06 18:51, 17F

08/06 18:51, , 18F
這樣沒什麼不好啊 其他球員不值得熱火去追
08/06 18:51, 18F

08/06 18:51, , 19F
我還沒提到市場上目前剩下來唯一的好PF超塞的大寶貝
08/06 18:51, 19F

08/06 18:51, , 20F
如果只簽一年短約 對留Wade會有什麼幫助? 明年還是FA啊
08/06 18:51, 20F

08/06 18:51, , 21F
他是會有多貴?5M ??
08/06 18:51, 21F

08/06 18:52, , 22F
誰說只給簽一年短約的?說簽一年短約的也是Riley
08/06 18:52, 22F

08/06 18:52, , 23F
這不是數學問題 而是明年FA素質好很多 何必今年用掉
08/06 18:52, 23F

08/06 18:52, , 24F
稱今夏球員大失血當然可以簽長一點,去年簽Jones也花4M多
08/06 18:52, 24F

08/06 18:53, , 25F
今年這價碼隨便找也有比去年Jonse更好的貨色
08/06 18:53, 25F

08/06 18:53, , 26F
你列的Pargo Gooden Wilcox都是簽一年啊 Wilcox明年PO
08/06 18:53, 26F

08/06 18:53, , 27F
明年素質好很多,但有銀彈的球隊也多很多,以熱火的空間
08/06 18:53, 27F

08/06 18:54, , 28F
就像外電內所說的運氣好標隻Bosh就滿了,然後怎麻辦?
08/06 18:54, 28F

08/06 18:54, , 29F
別人都和他們簽一年 熱火就要和他們簽複數年? 不對吧
08/06 18:54, 29F

08/06 18:54, , 30F
中鋒有人補嗎?替補老將PG有人補嗎?陣容還是一堆洞
08/06 18:54, 30F

08/06 18:54, , 31F
你哪隻眼睛看到別人都只簽一年,Wilcox還是Gooden還是誰?
08/06 18:54, 31F

08/06 18:55, , 32F
怎麼辦? Wade+Bosh+Beasley滿了就滿了 後年繼續補啊
08/06 18:55, 32F

08/06 18:55, , 33F
好我錯了...gooden只簽一年,但剩下的呢?
08/06 18:55, 33F

08/06 18:55, , 34F
一年就要補成冠軍球隊? 想太多了
08/06 18:55, 34F

08/06 18:56, , 35F
滿了後年繼續補,沒薪資空間補誰?無視NBA薪資規範唷?
08/06 18:56, 35F

08/06 18:56, , 36F
剩下的Bibby簽的比中產還高 不知道你列出來幹嘛
08/06 18:56, 36F

08/06 18:56, , 37F
那在後年我們的新人要續約了怎麻辦?
08/06 18:56, 37F

08/06 18:56, , 38F
後年有中產啊 你進入狀況一點好嗎?
08/06 18:56, 38F

08/06 18:56, , 39F
新人續約又跟薪資上限無關 你對CBA好像很不熟耶
08/06 18:56, 39F
還有 281 則推文
08/07 01:41, , 321F
喊心酸的而已. 有機會自然要衝 但現在就不是那個情況.
08/07 01:41, 321F

08/07 01:41, , 322F
Riley也是有前科的,球迷有懷疑的權利,就像Riley懷疑wade
08/07 01:41, 322F

08/07 01:42, , 323F
我沒說Riley不衝,很多時候你如果連喊價都不喊就放棄
08/07 01:42, 323F

08/07 01:42, , 324F
會讓人覺得你很不想要簽人,這是Riley自己發言他沒啥找人
08/07 01:42, 324F

08/07 01:42, , 325F
前科? 你說尼克嗎? 情況根本不同..應該瞭解一下當初跑來 heat
08/07 01:42, 325F

08/07 01:43, , 326F
只有大家都知道的Odom,其他都沒興趣(Boo也沒談)
08/07 01:43, 326F

08/07 01:43, , 327F
的原因.尼克是不讓 riley 有人事權 miami 給他全權才挖到的
08/07 01:43, 327F

08/07 01:43, , 328F
我當然都知道情況不同啦,但前科就是前科,要跑總會有理由
08/07 01:43, 328F

08/07 01:44, , 329F
在別忘記Riley也老了到了退休年齡,他在籃球界還缺什嗎?
08/07 01:44, 329F

08/07 01:44, , 330F
我不是說 riles 明年一定會留..但你這樣看到影子就跟著說
08/07 01:44, 330F

08/07 01:44, , 331F
riles 明年就要跑了..到底根據在哪裡?
08/07 01:44, 331F

08/07 01:44, , 332F
該有的Riley都有了,球員,教練,總管,冠軍.他退休我不意外
08/07 01:44, 332F

08/07 01:45, , 333F
同樣的話你也可以套在 wade 身上.. 如果今年錢花掉了 wade
08/07 01:45, 333F

08/07 01:45, , 334F
我看到影子就亂開槍,也是基於保護熱火球隊的立場呀
08/07 01:45, 334F

08/07 01:45, , 335F
就像Riley說Wade不續約他就不簽球員補強一樣
08/07 01:45, 335F

08/07 01:45, , 336F
明年你保證他就留? 你說以 wade 的個性一定會留, 一樣, 要走
08/07 01:45, 336F

08/07 01:45, , 337F
還怕沒有理由嗎?
08/07 01:45, 337F

08/07 01:46, , 338F
都是出於風險評估自我意測的保護立場~~這招跟Riley學的~
08/07 01:46, 338F

08/07 01:46, , 339F
以 riles 的立場這樣做 不覺得有甚麼問題..明年看 bosh 跑掉
08/07 01:46, 339F

08/07 01:46, , 340F
的話 raps 就真的科科了.. raps 那算是先天不良 比heat苦許多
08/07 01:46, 340F

08/07 01:47, , 341F
那以球迷的立場,可不可以擔心萬一真的補強失敗Wade跑掉
08/07 01:47, 341F

08/07 01:47, , 342F
萬一Riley也宣布退休,請問熱火剩下什嗎??
08/07 01:47, 342F

08/07 01:47, , 343F
就這樣吧 只是你整篇給我的感覺只是相信你想相信的東西而已
08/07 01:47, 343F

08/07 01:48, , 344F
Raps已經做好準備Bosh跑掉的劇本,看他門補強及續簽可知
08/07 01:48, 344F

08/07 01:48, , 345F
不然Raps今年搞個義大利聯線+Hedo國際軍團幹嗎
08/07 01:48, 345F

08/07 01:49, , 346F
反過來說,熱火有做好Wade跑掉的劇本嗎?真的要完全重建??
08/07 01:49, 346F

08/07 02:57, , 347F
其實Riley還差一個頭銜
08/07 02:57, 347F

08/07 03:06, , 348F
未看先猜 樓上洨宇
08/07 03:06, 348F

08/07 03:25, , 349F
靠妖 還不睡
08/07 03:25, 349F

08/07 08:28, , 350F
我看WADE該走了...其他03梯的朋友..隊伍都肯花錢..就WADE.
08/07 08:28, 350F

08/07 08:32, , 351F
看到熱火現在這樣...真想看到下下球季WADE現身在公牛隊...
08/07 08:32, 351F

08/07 10:27, , 352F
樓上很酸 Riley看人一向有他的一套 就像各位他也很主
08/07 10:27, 352F

08/07 10:29, , 353F
觀 時間距離明年暑假還有很長 現在做這些真的沒有什
08/07 10:29, 353F

08/07 10:30, , 354F
麼是絕對的 Cav大量灑錢..就算LBJ留下來也不一定好..
08/07 10:30, 354F

08/07 10:31, , 355F
何況LBJ還沒續約 還有走的機會...
08/07 10:31, 355F

08/07 10:33, , 356F
我的意思是 Wade放話說不補強就走人 但真的會走就是
08/07 10:33, 356F

08/07 10:34, , 357F
會走 商場上白紙黑字寫下來的才是真的 其他都是一場
08/07 10:34, 357F

08/07 10:37, , 358F
秀 Wade是一個優秀的球員 但營運的事他不應該插手
08/07 10:37, 358F

08/08 09:10, , 359F
藍撒旦你要不要回顧一下熱火第四十三順位選了誰?
08/08 09:10, 359F

08/08 09:10, , 360F
還自己把他交易掉喔。事後諸葛的說法無助於事實釐清。
08/08 09:10, 360F
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