[閒聊] 兵器對戰中的徒手技巧
先不多說各位看這則西洋雙手劍術的技巧介紹影片
https://youtu.be/ohmLaZHStmI
Fencing with the long sword 2012
到後面各位也可以看見出現一些踢打技跟關節技
以前既然是生死鬥 沒人規定不能用拳腳
在我常提的那本"中世紀歐洲武術大全"
http://www.books.com.tw/products/0010631334
裏頭也有提到以前歐洲武術家是要練摔角術的
特別是又跟同樣主打貼身戰的短刀術的連結關係很強
http://youtu.be/-TzdtyMC7ek
Fencing with five different medieval weapons
歐美人跟日本人玩歷史重演決鬥也是常
先從拿武器變成貼身扭打
https://youtu.be/hgQzAfA41bY
各位看這影片兩個維京人拿盾牌斧頭對打但還沒一分鐘就進入地板戰了
題外話
話說斧頭跟刀劍相比較難使出致命性高的突刺攻擊
但有個好處就是追擊倒地對手比較容易
我們也是請維京人來示範一下
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZs2a1DN9bQ
各位可以看2:35秒 摔倒對手後用斧頭追擊那個動作
現代擊劍運用 不論西洋劍或日本劍道 都因為規則上的問題
禁止拳腳的使用 畢竟觀眾是來看選手比劍的
否則身體衝撞這種老招 在絕大多數場合都很好用
至於說兵器武術為徒手技巧有什麼影響
有個常被提起的說法是
空手的基本架式受棍術的影響很深
http://i.imgur.com/lfL0PUa.jpg
空手道基本架式常被問 為什麼不像拳擊一樣手抬高護頭
一說就是使長棍長柄武器 擺出中段架式時 武器前端的高度會自然護頭
因此手的位置並不用抬高
事實上空手道的中段突跟棍術的前進突刺基本原理是相當接近
拐棍雖然有很多用法
但基礎是一種空手格擋加強器 等於是簡易前臂護甲
http://www.martialartsvideos.com/8194dsdmw34/uploads/2013/07/Tonfa-HQ-png.png
本來可能會被刀砍斷或棒子打到骨折的前臂格擋 有了拐棍就能確實阻擋
西瓜刀跟開山刀攻擊常見被害者左臂被砍斷 就是本能用左手阻右撇子揮刀攻擊的結果
我聽過一個說法 是中國武術中常出現的"靠"這個動作
不只是身體衝撞 一部分也有以前戰場上拿盾衝撞對手的意義存在
但這我不熟 就不多說了
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